A-440 is the NAZI tuning?

[kasperjensen]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

It is measured in Hertz (Hz - Frequency), which is a periodic cycle of one second. An A being tuned at 440 Hz means that it will create 440 wave cycles per second (if I remember correctly). The cycle (sine wave) starts at 0 degrees, and goes to +180 degrees, back to 0 degrees, down to -180 degrees and back to 0 degrees to be complete.

("Out of phase" or "phase cancellation" happens when two notes of the same pitch are offset. i.e. If one cycle starts by going up to +180, and the other goes to -180 at the same time, they will cancel each other out (in mono) completely)

 

[jlbaxe]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

It is measured in Hertz (Hz - Frequency), which is a periodic cycle of one second. An A being tuned at 440 Hz means that it will create 440 wave cycles per second (if I remember correctly). The cycle (sine wave) starts at 0 degrees, and goes to +180 degrees, back to 0 degrees, down to -180 degrees and back to 0 degrees to be complete.

("Out of phase" or "phase cancellation" happens when two notes of the same pitch are offset. i.e. If one cycle starts by going up to +180, and the other goes to -180 at the same time, they will cancel each other out (in mono) completely)

Thats it. What I was thinking of and trying to remember

 

[kasperjensen]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

It is measured in Hertz (Hz - Frequency), which is a periodic cycle of one second. An A being tuned at 440 Hz means that it will create 440 wave cycles per second (if I remember correctly). The cycle (sine wave) starts at 0 degrees, and goes to +180 degrees, back to 0 degrees, down to -180 degrees and back to 0 degrees to be complete.

("Out of phase" or "phase cancellation" happens when two notes of the same pitch are offset. i.e. If one cycle starts by going up to +180, and the other goes to -180 at the same time, they will cancel each other out (in mono) completely)

Thats it. What I was thinking of and trying to remember

It's seriously fun stuff

 

[jlbaxe]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

It is measured in Hertz (Hz - Frequency), which is a periodic cycle of one second. An A being tuned at 440 Hz means that it will create 440 wave cycles per second (if I remember correctly). The cycle (sine wave) starts at 0 degrees, and goes to +180 degrees, back to 0 degrees, down to -180 degrees and back to 0 degrees to be complete.

("Out of phase" or "phase cancellation" happens when two notes of the same pitch are offset. i.e. If one cycle starts by going up to +180, and the other goes to -180 at the same time, they will cancel each other out (in mono) completely)

Thats it. What I was thinking of and trying to remember

It's seriously fun stuff

Thanks!

 

[Tone Zone]

wow, by the reaction from many of you, i might swear this particular forum might be a Tavisock data-mining operation.
geez, i didn't realize i hit such a rich gold vein with the "A-440 NAZI connection".
but some of you got your panties all tied up in knots over it.

Only one I see getting their panties tied up in knots over it is YOU. You're the one that suggested re-tuning your guitar to A-432, just because you heard somewhere that some big, bad Nazi was behind the movement to make the official "concert-pitch" of the "A-note" from 432 hertz to 440 Hertz. Sounds like such rumors might have kept you up at nights. I think duodecim's post cleared up the issue for you. Now, you should be able to sleep better at night.

 

[degenaro]

I thought A 440 was in reference to the A string being tuned so that when it was plucked it would vibrate a figure 8 pattern 440 times a minute or something like that

Technically it's the third overtone/ second octave since the A string vibrates at 110 at concert pitch. The reference is because the 440 A is the first A above middle C which really is what Western music is based on.

 

[degenaro]

Also over the last 300 years concert pitch has gone from 380 to 450 Hz. Part of the constant increase in pitch during church organ days was the pipes needing to be shortened because of the ends getting messed up. Thus increasing in pitch. Plus biologists and other soloists trying to be heard better by making their timbre brighter started to nudge stuff up. Once they got to 450 singers start to complain. Still plenty of orchestras that tune higher than 440.

 

[jlbaxe]

there that feels better

 

[Eco 7077]

no it is not, don't you have books in the usa?
it was first globalized in the 1700sh in classism but it was used long before that

 

[Silverjet]

 

[hawkeye17]

The reality is that scientists discovered A-432 induces involuntary bowel movements in livestock so they set the standard at A-440. I read that on the internets.....

 

[sombersoul]

Sounds like the "brown note" thing. Isn't that more of an urban myth? There's a funny South Park episode about this anyway.

 

[petejt]

Sounds like the "brown note" thing. Isn't that more of an urban myth? There's a funny South Park episode about this anyway.

Yeah, they were playing their school recorders to find the brown note, to induce other kids to shit themselves.

Mythbusters also tested if low frequencies induce you to shit your pants. I can't remember the results.

 

[sinfish]

This is just stupid!

 

[joepete77]

has anybody else heard of this?
that in the 1930s a leading NAZI officer re-programmed the "concert-pitch" of the "A-note" from 432 hertz to 440 Hertz?
I'm seriously thinking to re-tune my guitar to A-432

You go ahead...I'll proudly stay with A-440, even if this is the case.

Better watch out , the p.c police might get u and issue a citation or summons for "senstivity training"

 

[joepete77]

don't believe everything you read on ze interwebs ;p so after some digging

440Hz has been decided to be standard in 1939 by the International Federation of the National Standardizing Associations (ISA, has now become ISO) in London.

The US used 440Hz as a standard since 1910 after John Calhoun Deagan persuaded the American Federation of Musicians to do so.

for more reading

http://web.mac.com/len15/MUSICAL_CULT_C ... owitz.html

how about refusing to use certain products based on their connection in world war 2 (coca cola - fanta being one of them..)

http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/1 ... _the_Nazis

horrors were and are committed by everyone, if you think about it look at the huge consequences of inventing the atomic bomb

in any case, not really the kind of thread for rig-talk, but thought i'dd add my 0.02 cents

Really, wouldnt be practical. Mitsubishi made the jap zero's that attacked pearl harbor and kamikazee pilots yet they are very popular in the usa. Its old news.