Amps that get lost in the mix....

[RaceU4her]

Line 6 Flextone 2 HD. Man that amp sounded great playing along with bands on the radio, but once you got in a jam room with a band, forget about it lol. My cousins squire amp damn near cut through better than that half stack.

I know that one for a fact too.

Actually..come to think of it.. so do I... and the HD147, but not as much...they only had line 6 heads at the practice space I used to practice with the band, was quite annoying, I think I was the only one who noticed haha.

the faceless were using hd147s when my band played some shows with them years back in unmic'd vfw halls and they sounded amazing. another buddy i know around here in a bunch of bands who has been through more amazing sounding rigs is now using a hd147 and sounds better than ever. if you have trouble making a 300w amp cut through i gotta blame it on user error and not the amp

 

[TurboRotary13b]

The worst Ive ever heard was an ENGL Powerball..

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Yeah, I have never had an issue cutting through, and as some of the HCAF guys might know I had to deal with the most ridiculously scooped and gained out rhythm guitarrist for my last two bands. I do understand it's all about EQ'ing guys.

My old Marshall I had to boost the mids quite alot to cut through, but I knew I'd have to anyway as it wasn't very 'present' genreally.

The 5150 II though I could use at my bedroom settings live becuase it cuts through so well, I'm surprised anyone said 5150, I've always heard they slay in a band mix. I play in my bedroom/bass 5.5-6, mds 6, highs 5, res 4.5, pres, 3.5, gain 5.5. (I think, somthing like that anyway)

I've heard around that some ENGLs, Rectos and Kranks are pretty bad.

For better or for worse my Krank cut through the mix like a hot knife through butter. Not an issue.

 

[Tawlks]

Line 6 Flextone 2 HD. Man that amp sounded great playing along with bands on the radio, but once you got in a jam room with a band, forget about it lol. My cousins squire amp damn near cut through better than that half stack.

I know that one for a fact too.

Actually..come to think of it.. so do I... and the HD147, but not as much...they only had line 6 heads at the practice space I used to practice with the band, was quite annoying, I think I was the only one who noticed haha.

the faceless were using hd147s when my band played some shows with them years back in unmic'd vfw halls and they sounded amazing. another buddy i know around here in a bunch of bands who has been through more amazing sounding rigs is now using a hd147 and sounds better than ever. if you have trouble making a 300w amp cut through i gotta blame it on user error and not the amp

I forgot to mention I didn't set the amp up, other guitarrist did, It may have just been the settings, I put the mids up from what he set but maybe I was being drowned out by him? I'm not sure.

 

[Tawlks]

Yeah, I have never had an issue cutting through, and as some of the HCAF guys might know I had to deal with the most ridiculously scooped and gained out rhythm guitarrist for my last two bands. I do understand it's all about EQ'ing guys.

My old Marshall I had to boost the mids quite alot to cut through, but I knew I'd have to anyway as it wasn't very 'present' genreally.

The 5150 II though I could use at my bedroom settings live becuase it cuts through so well, I'm surprised anyone said 5150, I've always heard they slay in a band mix. I play in my bedroom/bass 5.5-6, mds 6, highs 5, res 4.5, pres, 3.5, gain 5.5. (I think, somthing like that anyway)

I've heard around that some ENGLs, Rectos and Kranks are pretty bad.

For better or for worse my Krank cut through the mix like a hot knife through butter. Not an issue.

Oh, which Krank was it? I rememebr something on HC ages ago about Kranks not cutting through.

 

[SpiritCrusher86]

Recto, especially if you dial it in badly. Axe Fx :cop:

Have you ever played a recto in a band? I seriously doubt it...

I have, actually. The guitarist in my band has an older cousin with a recto, and he used it a couple times.

 

[droptrd]

Crates.

and not to lump them in with crates but... 5150s Rectos

 

[Guitarzan1143]

any amp without midz.

 

[Tawlks]

Crates.

and not to lump them in with crates but... 5150s Rectos

Until now I've never really heard about 5150s getting lost. :S

 

[glpg80]

yeah someone mentions 5150's and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. this is not the case in my experience and i have owned 5 5150's.

if you are cranking them like they are supposed to be and not scooping the shit out of them and rubbing their tone through 100% wet effects they will cut through with 4x as much gain as a marshall and still keep up just fine.

hell they are copies of SLO's - no one has mentioned a SLO yet.

 

[Guitarzan1143]

5150s dont get lost in the mix unless you have the mids on zero. rectifiers get lost in the mix because they are designed to be bassy metal monsters... what most 17 year old metal kids dont realize is that the BASS GUITAR exists for a reason.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

Yeah, I have never had an issue cutting through, and as some of the HCAF guys might know I had to deal with the most ridiculously scooped and gained out rhythm guitarrist for my last two bands. I do understand it's all about EQ'ing guys.

My old Marshall I had to boost the mids quite alot to cut through, but I knew I'd have to anyway as it wasn't very 'present' genreally.

The 5150 II though I could use at my bedroom settings live becuase it cuts through so well, I'm surprised anyone said 5150, I've always heard they slay in a band mix. I play in my bedroom/bass 5.5-6, mds 6, highs 5, res 4.5, pres, 3.5, gain 5.5. (I think, somthing like that anyway)

I've heard around that some ENGLs, Rectos and Kranks are pretty bad.

For better or for worse my Krank cut through the mix like a hot knife through butter. Not an issue.

Oh, which Krank was it? I rememebr something on HC ages ago about Kranks not cutting through.

I had a revolution one.

 

[TurboRotary13b]

yeah someone mentions 5150's and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. this is not the case in my experience and i have owned 5 5150's.

if you are cranking them like they are supposed to be and not scooping the shit out of them and rubbing their tone through 100% wet effects they will cut through with 4x as much gain as a marshall and still keep up just fine.

hell they are copies of SLO's - no one has mentioned a SLO yet.

I agree.. 5150s dont have a problem getting lost in the mix at all if you have some mids..

 

[Tawlks]

yeah someone mentions 5150's and everyone jumps on the bandwagon. this is not the case in my experience and i have owned 5 5150's.

if you are cranking them like they are supposed to be and not scooping the shit out of them and rubbing their tone through 100% wet effects they will cut through with 4x as much gain as a marshall and still keep up just fine.

hell they are copies of SLO's - no one has mentioned a SLO yet.

I had no idea 5150s were a copy of an SLO?

Yeah... but alot of people do use 5150s with 0 mids which I guess is why people can jump to that conclusion. It's a 'metal' amp you can get cheap so the br00tz kidz buy them and scoop them. I've heard nothing cut through like a 5150 in my limited experience of playing/seeing gigs. No one uses Rectos where I live.

 

[Tawlks]

Yeah, I have never had an issue cutting through, and as some of the HCAF guys might know I had to deal with the most ridiculously scooped and gained out rhythm guitarrist for my last two bands. I do understand it's all about EQ'ing guys.

My old Marshall I had to boost the mids quite alot to cut through, but I knew I'd have to anyway as it wasn't very 'present' genreally.

The 5150 II though I could use at my bedroom settings live becuase it cuts through so well, I'm surprised anyone said 5150, I've always heard they slay in a band mix. I play in my bedroom/bass 5.5-6, mds 6, highs 5, res 4.5, pres, 3.5, gain 5.5. (I think, somthing like that anyway)

I've heard around that some ENGLs, Rectos and Kranks are pretty bad.

For better or for worse my Krank cut through the mix like a hot knife through butter. Not an issue.

Oh, which Krank was it? I rememebr something on HC ages ago about Kranks not cutting through.

I had a revolution one.

Oh, I'm pretty sure it wasn't that one. Might have been a Krankenstein?

I once heard Jeff Loomis say he was getting lost in the mix to Chris Broderick's ENGLs... but that's just when he left Krank to join ENGL haha.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

Engl Fireball 60.

5150s getting lost?????

 

[droptrd]

Crates.

and not to lump them in with crates but... 5150s Rectos

Until now I've never really heard about 5150s getting lost. :S

I say this cause I see at least 2 bands a month come thru town with 5150s set up with goppy mushy over gainy scoopy tone that just gets burried.

Now, before the diehard 5150 guys jump on me, im not saying that is all the 5150s are capable of. Any amp can cut if set up right just as any amp can get burried if set up that way too. I used to have a 5150. I know it can be present in a mix. Im saying in my experiance, most guys i see come around with 5150s and rectos and crates of all kinds typically set their amps up in a way that doesnt make it thru the mix.

 

[Tawlks]

Crates.

and not to lump them in with crates but... 5150s Rectos

Until now I've never really heard about 5150s getting lost. :S

I say this cause I see at least 2 bands a month come thru town with 5150s set up with goppy mushy over gainy scoopy tone that just gets burried.

Now, before the diehard 5150 guys jump on me, im not saying that is all the 5150s are capable of. Any amp can cut if set up right just as any amp can get burried if set up that way too. I used to have a 5150. I know it can be present in a mix. Im saying in my experiance, most guys i see come around with 5150s and rectos and crates of all kinds typically set their amps up in a way that doesnt make it thru the mix.

lol That's because most of the younger players who own high gain amps are the br00ttzz crowd who, sorry but alot of have absolutely no fucking clue about tone or band mixes or EQ at all and just find the most 'br00ttall' bedroom tone, then they dime the gain boost their volume when they can't hear themselves in the mush. This is one of the reasons I don't like metalcore. Now.. I'm 16 and I boost my mids because when I first played in a band situation I had my mids scooped and I thought it sounded brutal but I wasn't being heard, then my frontman told me to boost the mids and I did.. and the mix was great, that simple. I don't see why people want the ultimate brutal tone anyway. :S

 

[glpg80]

im not following you dude, it must be their speakers, because i like my amp with the mids on 1.5 and also on 3-4. scooped or not they cut like a knife.

FWIW i used to own a block letter and a 5150 II, i still own the 5150 II.

if you owned a 5150 and ever gigged with it i doubt those words would be spread all over this topic. every 5150 i have ever used when cranked, reguardless of user settings, had no problem sitting in the mix with drums and bass guitar.

 

[droptrd]

Im not sayin, Im just sayin