Anyone still dig TNT

[Rev]

The intro to "Everyone's A Star" is fantastic, with its pissed off raunchy tone, however the song gets killed for me when the vocals come in.

Yet you were raving about the singer in Steelheart?

Oh silly Curt there is a difference between someone who appears to be vocally and most likely classically trained and someone who has a huge range but doesn't know how to use it. Miljenko Matijevic is the man! I'll bring by some Steelheart by my next stop in and you'll be a believer.

huh? So you're saying Tony Harnell doesn't know how to use his vocal range?

That is exactly what I am saying. Don't get me wrong I own every TNT album and even Atlatas . Different singer yeah I know, but Harnall has major talent no question. However, he simply is not using his voice to its potential.

 

[mixohoytian]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

 

[Chubtone]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

The Steelheart guy sounds to me like someone who studied with some clinical voice teacher who taught him how to sing using "head voice" or whatever kind of "fake" voice he uses to sound like that using some perfect technique. Harnell sounds like some guy who steps up to the mic and just starts belting it out. Is he doing it "wrong"? Probably. Is he including some rasp in there that would have caused the Stealhearts vocal teacher to go into convulsions? Is he pushing too hard? Maybe. But he sounds to me like a guy who is singing hard rock and metal.

If you want to talk about goofy technique and TNT we can spend hours on Ronni's guitar playing and the same amount of time on what must have been a wig on Morty's head. But early TNT rocked. Steelheart, on the other hand, in my opinion is one of the bands on the list that caused hard rock and metal to become susceptible to a takeover by Seattle shoe-gazers.

 

[Rev]

The intro to "Everyone's A Star" is fantastic, with its pissed off raunchy tone, however the song gets killed for me when the vocals come in.

Yet you were raving about the singer in Steelheart?

Oh silly Curt there is a difference between someone who appears to be vocally and most likely classically trained and someone who has a huge range but doesn't know how to use it. Miljenko Matijevic is the man! I'll bring by some Steelheart by my next stop in and you'll be a believer.

Oh silly Quinn, at the time........ we were all searching for a male singer that had the range and power of Tony Harnell. To many of us he was the ideal singer. He has power and even though he is singing in a higher range, his voice has a much fuller quality to it than the guy in Steelheart. That guy's voice is so thin I can't stand it. He reminds me of Mark Slaughter with that Micky Mousey helium sound to his voice. So thin. Harnell still sounds like a male vocalist with a high range. The Steelheart guy sounds like someone kicked a young boy in the Mormon Tabernacle choir in the nuts. They might be singing in the same range but the Steelheart guy sounds like his vocal pipes are the size of a straw.

And let's face it, they did use the castrati from Stellheart for some of the vocals in the Rock Star movie, but even they realized he was way too wussy sounding for some of them and they had to bring a man in (Jeff Scott Soto) to sing some of the tunes.

And you can't stand the vocals on this tune:

but like this vocalist?

To each their own brotha. I can barely stomach this Steelheart tune playing in the background while I type this. Such a thin, nasal quality to his voice in the upper register.

FORUM WAR!!!!

I don't know what it was like to look for a singer in the 80's I'm not that old So he may have been your ideal standard singer and he has the talent but he doesn't know how and when to use it. Staying in falsetto for the entire song is just plain annoying. Plus he starts right away in the highest he can go which gives him no room to go anywhere else. Come on guitar player we need headroom.

Curt it seems you are very emotion about this subject. Maybe Steelheart stole something from you back in the day. I have a couch to lay down on and express your feelings towards Mormons and Le Treko if you need it. I am hear to listen. At times of uncertainty you need friends to pick you back up.

BTW: my dad can beat up your dad!

 

[mixohoytian]

Halford > everyone

Halford just goes for it, rock singers should not be using "proper" technique

 

[Rev]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

The Steelheart guy sounds to me like someone who studied with some clinical voice teacher who taught him how to sing using "head voice" or whatever kind of "fake" voice he uses to sound like that using some perfect technique. Harnell sounds like some guy who steps up to the mic and just starts belting it out. Is he doing it "wrong"? Probably. Is he including some rasp in there that would have caused the Stealhearts vocal teacher to go into convulsions? Is he pushing too hard? Maybe. But he sounds to me like a guy who is singing hard rock and metal.

If you want to talk about goofy technique and TNT we can spend hours on Ronni's guitar playing and the same amount of time on what must have been a wig on Morty's head. But early TNT rocked. Steelheart, on the other hand, in my opinion is one of the bands on the list that caused hard rock and metal to become susceptible to a takeover by Seattle shoe-gazers.

AAAWWWW there it is.....Steelheart stole the 80's from you. We can all now rest a sigh of relief. I know now why you don't like the boys from Steelheart. All things are being revealed into the light.

 

[Rev]

Halford > everyone

Halford just goes for it, rock singers should not be using "proper" technique

Your absolutely right! I think they should use both though. Just like Curt said that le Treko never expanded his talents, same goes for vocalists. Rock vocalists need to be out of perfect pitch and key sometimes, but harnessing that and properly using will be an advantage.

BTW: Michael Sweet is the reason i got into the guitar.

 

[Chubtone]

I AM VERY EMOTIONAL ON THIS SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I was three, my family traveled for several hours on a vacation destination of a lifetime. I was so excited I kept wetting my diaper. Yes, I wore diapers as a three year old. In those days it was quite common, my parents told me, for a child to wear diapers until well into junior high school and so by the time I was in high school I had progressed to only wearing a sleeping diaper. Now at my age, it's a diaper 24/7. Anyway, back to my wet, 3 year old diaper.

My parents had been saving for years for this dream vacation and our families and my urethra's excitement could not be contained. Anyway, we drove and drove and drove to our vacation and had the time of our lives until out of the corner of my eye I saw a shape. It was my favorite shape in the whole world. There was a huge crowd of people waiting in line to meet this hero. We stood there in the blazing heat, which by the way is pretty quick to induce a wicked diaper rash, for what seemed like hours. Finally, the ultimate pinnacle of our vacation and what should have been the highlight of my life, I was the very next person in line. I was so tired from the excitement and the heat that I almost passed out from sun stroke, but I struggled to retain consciousness. Finally, it was my turn and my heroes handler stepped in and said, "Sorry, Mickey needs to go on a break. We'll be back in 45 minutes.

My dreams were crushed. My hopes were dashed. My faith in humanity shaken to it's core. So yes, you can see how I would have such a violent reaction when I hear the voice of that vile Disney character coming at me through stereo speakers, personified in a vocalist more in need of a stage name than anyone in history. Steelheart to me is the aural equivalent of baking in the hot sun with festering diaper rash inhabiting my urine soaked wiggly bits.

But hey, apparently you LIKE diaper rash.

 

[Rev]

I AM VERY EMOTIONAL ON THIS SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I was three, my family traveled for several hours on a vacation destination of a lifetime. I was so excited I kept wetting my diaper. Yes, I wore diapers as a three year old. In those days it was quite common, my parents told me, for a child to wear diapers until well into junior high school and so by the time I was in high school I had progressed to only wearing a sleeping diaper. Now at my age, it's a diaper 24/7. Anyway, back to my wet, 3 year old diaper.

My parents had been saving for years for this dream vacation and our families and my urethra's excitement could not be contained. Anyway, we drove and drove and drove to our vacation and had the time of our lives until out of the corner of my eye I saw a shape. It was my favorite shape in the whole world. There was a huge crowd of people waiting in line to meet this hero. We stood there in the blazing heat, which by the way is pretty quick to induce a wicked diaper rash, for what seemed like hours. Finally, the ultimate pinnacle of our vacation and what should have been the highlight of my life, I was the very next person in line. I was so tired from the excitement and the heat that I almost passed out from sun stroke, but I struggled to retain consciousness. Finally, it was my turn and my heroes handler stepped in and said, "Sorry, Mickey needs to go on a break. We'll be back in 45 minutes.

My dreams were crushed. My hopes were dashed. My faith in humanity shaken to it's core. So yes, you can see how I would have such a violent reaction when I hear the voice of that vile Disney character coming at me through stereo speakers, personified in a vocalist more in need of a stage name than anyone in history. Steelheart to me is the aural equivalent of baking in the hot sun with festering diaper rash inhabiting my urine soaked wiggly bits.

But hey, apparently you LIKE diaper rash.

You're the only reason that gives me hope for the good old days on this forum. You will make a great grandpa one day telling your whopper of stories. "Stand around kids, Grandpa Curtis is going to tell you all about the glory days of spandex, hairspray, and boys wearing makup."

BTW: I have plenty of Desetin for that reason.

 

[Chubtone]

That's it! We need Ralph in this thread. I'm going to go hunt him down on Facebook and beg him to return to Rig Talk just for some TNT talk.

 

[squank]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

LOL castrati.


And yes, Michael Sweet can still bring it.

 

[squank]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

LOL castrati.


And yes, Michael Sweet can still bring it.

 

[Rev]

That's it! We need Ralph in this thread. I'm going to go hunt him down on Facebook and beg him to return to Rig Talk just for some TNT talk.

Better yet....wanna hit up Hollingshead for lunch?

 

[Chubtone]

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

LOL castrati.


And yes, Michael Sweet can still bring it.

Harnell> steelheart castrati

I know what you are saying, harnell doesn't know how to use his low range like the steelheart castrati does, but steelheart castrati sounds like minnie mouse on the highs

and as far as the highs
Harnell and Michael Sweet were the ones to beat

LOL castrati.


And yes, Michael Sweet can still bring it.

Look, yours is a good reply, but it's not so good we need it twice. And by the way, I introduced the word "castrati" into this thread, not this no avocado delivering to your part time boss in quite a while joker, Mixohoytian. I am quite proud of remembering that word and it's relevenace to this thread in the form of Quinn's favorite Toon Town character/vocalist.

 

[mixohoytian]

Halford > everyone

Halford just goes for it, rock singers should not be using "proper" technique

Your absolutely right! I think they should use both though. Just like Curt said that le Treko never expanded his talents, same goes for vocalists. Rock vocalists need to be out of perfect pitch and key sometimes, but harnessing that and properly using will be an advantage.

BTW: Michael Sweet is the reason i got into the guitar.

same here on Michael Sweet
plus the life long admiration for the metal scream

I disagree on rock singers though
Geoff Tate is so trained that I don't consider him a rock singer..he's more on the celene dion side of things

rock needs rock singers

And No, Eddie Vedder, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, the guy from soundgarden and smashing pumpkins do not count

 

[Chubtone]

That's it! We need Ralph in this thread. I'm going to go hunt him down on Facebook and beg him to return to Rig Talk just for some TNT talk.

Better yet....wanna hit up Hollingshead for lunch?

Do they have a jukebox filled with Steelheart tunes? If so, I will have to pass. That sounds good, but it would be sad to go there and remember all the cool Rig Talk people I met there who don't come to the forum anymore.

 

[Chubtone]

same here on Michael Sweet
plus the life long admiration for the metal scream

I disagree on rock singers though
Geoff Tate is so trained that I don't consider him a rock singer..he's more on the celene dion side of things

rock needs rock singers

And No, Eddie Vedder, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, the guy from soundgarden and smashing pumpkins do not count

Are you sure you aren't really 45? You won't even name "the guy" from Soundgarden? That's your generations vocal god.

 

[mixohoytian]

Yes, all references to Castrati and Liberaci come from Chubtone who's extensive solo Le tekro cd collection I illegally copied and still feel short changed on

Le tekro in TNT rules

 

[mixohoytian]

same here on Michael Sweet
plus the life long admiration for the metal scream

I disagree on rock singers though
Geoff Tate is so trained that I don't consider him a rock singer..he's more on the celene dion side of things

rock needs rock singers

And No, Eddie Vedder, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, the guy from soundgarden and smashing pumpkins do not count

Are you sure you aren't really 45? You won't even name "the guy" from Soundgarden? That's your generations vocal god.

that guy kept me from being in the next stryper
I'll never forgive my generation for that

 

[Lution]

Halford > everyone

Halford just goes for it, rock singers should not be using "proper" technique

Your absolutely right! I think they should use both though. Just like Curt said that le Treko never expanded his talents, same goes for vocalists. Rock vocalists need to be out of perfect pitch and key sometimes, but harnessing that and properly using will be an advantage.

BTW: Michael Sweet is the reason i got into the guitar.

same here on Michael Sweet
plus the life long admiration for the metal scream

I disagree on rock singers though
Geoff Tate is so trained that I don't consider him a rock singer..he's more on the celene dion side of things

rock needs rock singers

And No, Eddie Vedder, Scott Weiland, Kurt Cobain, the guy from soundgarden and smashing pumpkins do not count

okay, now I'm convinced that you're huffing model airplane glue. . . which can be fun in moderation.