Apology to Rig talk

[bunghole]

Giving him a 103rd chance is total disrespect to Kage.

I tempted to tear you a new one, but I'll refrain for now.

It isn't worth it Bob. Tons of these guys haven't a clue to Carlness. They don't know the personal vitriol that has been spewed towards anyone that hasn't agreed with him. They haven't a clue of the racist remarks and deriding statements that are part and parcel of Carl.

You show much more restraint that I have the capability of at times my friend.


Gary

your sig rules

Elvis is in nutty buddies

 

[Bob Savage]

i guess i don't undestand wanting to tear toneking a new one Bob...i know carl is not welcomed by many on this board...and i know why as i know toneking does...the things carl said about kage's family...and many others on this board that carl has offended ...it is hideous....guess i'm not sure why toneking's statements made you upset

Am I reading his post wrong? From what I see he's stating that Chris and I are expressing disrespect towards Kage by allowing Carl back here. I believe my opinion and perspective is clearly stated above and see no reason for his remark.

 

[degenaro]

i guess i don't undestand wanting to tear toneking a new one Bob...i know carl is not welcomed by many on this board...and i know why as i know toneking does...the things carl said about kage's family...and many others on this board that carl has offended ...it is hideous....guess i'm not sure why toneking's statements made you upset

Am I reading his post wrong? From what I see he's stating that Chris and I are expressing disrespect towards Kage by allowing Carl back here. I believe my opinion and perspective is clearly stated above and see no reason for his remark.

You read it wrong I think I believe he meant Carl showed enough dosrespect not to be allowed back.

 

[Bob Savage]

You read it wrong I think I believe he meant Carl showed enough dosrespect not to be allowed back.

I don't know man, I think this is fairly clear unless he didn't chose his words wisely:

Giving him a 103rd chance is total disrespect to Kage.

Who gave him the 103rd chance?

 

[Gainzilla]

Fellas, I appreciate anything and everything that some of you have said in my behalf but as I said earlier and Eddie did as well, this is Chris and Bobs place and If you like it here, then respect their decision to let carl stay, besides Im a big boy and the truth is that carl doesnt bug me in the least. The family thing doesnt really bother me either, When we meet up, hes going to get a lesson in the fact that actions have consequences and youre accountable for what comes out of your mouth.

We all know the apology isnt sincere and we all know that its only a matter of time before hes gone .He just needs a place to fish for compliments and get some attention. Carls a loser, through and through and he'll get whats coming to him, I guarantee it So sit back , relax and carry on as usual, Carl is a null event, he isnt even close to being important enough to worry about just like he isnt nearly as good as he thinks he is and so desperatly tries to convince people of .

Kage

 

[bunghole]

When we meet up, hes going to get a lesson in the fact that actions have consequences and youre accountable for what comes out of your mouth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoiQ4F6Zx8g

 

[FUZZboat]

LMAO




good one, Tweed !

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Good decision, Bob!

I think you and Chris have done right!
Hope Carl stays cool!
Keith

 

[Gainzilla]

Good decision, Bob!

I think you and Chris have done right!
Hope Carl stays cool!
Keith

that would imply that he was cool to being with... you should see the emails that I continue to get from this loser. I cant get over how dumb he is, its pretty epic

 

[SQUAREHEAD]

Good decision, Bob!

I think you and Chris have done right!
Hope Carl stays cool!
Keith

that would imply that he was cool to being with... you should see the emails that I continue to get from this loser. I cant get over how dumb he is, its pretty epic

really?
I had know idea, KAGE.
That's just weird... how old is he?

Keith

 

[Gainzilla]

Good decision, Bob!

I think you and Chris have done right!
Hope Carl stays cool!
Keith

that would imply that he was cool to being with... you should see the emails that I continue to get from this loser. I cant get over how dumb he is, its pretty epic

really?
I had know idea, KAGE.
That's just weird... how old is he?

Keith

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[Slaytallica]

Good decision, Bob!

I think you and Chris have done right!
Hope Carl stays cool!
Keith

that would imply that he was cool to being with... you should see the emails that I continue to get from this loser. I cant get over how dumb he is, its pretty epic

really?
I had know idea, KAGE.
That's just weird... how old is he?

Keith

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[Lord Toneking]

i guess i don't undestand wanting to tear toneking a new one Bob...i know carl is not welcomed by many on this board...and i know why as i know toneking does...the things carl said about kage's family...and many others on this board that carl has offended ...it is hideous....guess i'm not sure why toneking's statements made you upset

Am I reading his post wrong? From what I see he's stating that Chris and I are expressing disrespect towards Kage by allowing Carl back here. I believe my opinion and perspective is clearly stated above and see no reason for his remark.

Yes, I did say it is being disrepectful to Kage. Maybe you're not aware of the hurtful things he has said to Kage about his sister There's one thing to be an internet jerk, but when you start involving family and 'real' life tragedies then that's where I draw the line. Kage is a damn good guy, I've NEVER seen a post from him that was insulting to anyone...same with Ralph (with the exception of defending themselves to Carls onslaught of name calling). Both are compassionate and very humble guys, and I felt that I had to defend their character with this whole Carl apology thing. Kage and Ralph to me are the poster child of Rig Talk...they're half the reason I even come here

Bottom line is this... you know, I know, Chris knows , Kage knows, Ralph knows...pretty much EVERYONE knows that Carl's apology is pure BS. And for me mentioning Carl's 103rd chance, that was taken from his post where he said you've already given him 102 chances

I'm sorry Bob, I'm not trying to fan the flame here...I'm just trying to blow the smoke out of your eyes so you can see. This place doesn't need a guy like Carl. I've been unspoken for a long time just watching this guy from the sidelines and he's revealed to me time and time again that he's just not a good person in general. Again, I'm sorry but there was a line crossed and it just really hits a nerve with me

 

[Bob Savage]

I'm sorry Bob, I'm not trying to fan the flame here...I'm just trying to blow the smoke out of your eyes so you can see. This place doesn't need a guy like Carl. I've been unspoken for a long time just watching this guy from the sidelines and he's revealed to me time and time again that he's just not a good person in general. Again, I'm sorry but there was a line crossed and it just really hits a nerve with me

There's no smoke in my eyes. Did you read my perspective?

I've known Kage for several years, have spent many hours with him in person on multiple occasions and have had some quite frank conversations with him. If Kage perceived this as an insult to him in any way, shape or form, I'm certain he would call to talk about it.

I think you're sticking your nose into something that's not your business so please, drop the drama and butt out.

This is my last post to you on this topic. There's nothing else for me to say, nor defend.

 

[ejecta]

I dont think he should be allowed to stay UNLESS he publicly apologizes to Kage for all the shit he's said over the years.

Its the same old tired insincere BS, No one buys, not Bob or Chris and definitely not me. Ive got thick skin and can handle anything he says and throw it back tenfold but saying shit about my family or my late sister is over the line and the Heat of the moment excuse or saying that I spread lies about him is nothing but a desperate failed attempt to justify his actions...

All I want is face time...

Dont blame you. That time he said what he said about my kids, if he had been in front of me it would have been all the self restraint I could have mustered not to end him right there. That said, I think he has said 10X worse about you and Ralph and your family so I completely understand. Carl having "face time" with you Kage? Id fly up to NY for that.

Time will tell I guess.

 

[Jordon1]

This reminds me of a really good Europe song.... its.......



The Final Countdown

Psshhh, screw that. Can I have your Charvel?

Aren't you fucking dead yet- jackass. Do us all a favor and down 20 gallons of sewer water from you sink you like crying bitch hole -FAG.

Is this pep or zazz?

 

[Shiny_Surface]

i guess i don't undestand wanting to tear toneking a new one Bob...i know carl is not welcomed by many on this board...and i know why as i know toneking does...the things carl said about kage's family...and many others on this board that carl has offended ...it is hideous....guess i'm not sure why toneking's statements made you upset

Am I reading his post wrong? From what I see he's stating that Chris and I are expressing disrespect towards Kage by allowing Carl back here. I believe my opinion and perspective is clearly stated above and see no reason for his remark.

Yes, I did say it is being disrepectful to Kage. Maybe you're not aware of the hurtful things he has said to Kage about his sister There's one thing to be an internet jerk, but when you start involving family and 'real' life tragedies then that's where I draw the line. Kage is a damn good guy, I've NEVER seen a post from him that was insulting to anyone...same with Ralph (with the exception of defending themselves to Carls onslaught of name calling). Both are compassionate and very humble guys, and I felt that I had to defend their character with this whole Carl apology thing. Kage and Ralph to me are the poster child of Rig Talk...they're half the reason I even come here

Bottom line is this... you know, I know, Chris knows , Kage knows, Ralph knows...pretty much EVERYONE knows that Carl's apology is pure BS. And for me mentioning Carl's 103rd chance, that was taken from his post where he said you've already given him 102 chances

I'm sorry Bob, I'm not trying to fan the flame here...I'm just trying to blow the smoke out of your eyes so you can see. This place doesn't need a guy like Carl. I've been unspoken for a long time just watching this guy from the sidelines and he's revealed to me time and time again that he's just not a good person in general. Again, I'm sorry but there was a line crossed and it just really hits a nerve with me

Many of the "old timer" crowd have been dealing with Carl long before you showed up on the scene, it's business as usual for us...no offense.

 

[sandman]

I'm sorry Bob, I'm not trying to fan the flame here...I'm just trying to blow the smoke out of your eyes so you can see. This place doesn't need a guy like Carl. I've been unspoken for a long time just watching this guy from the sidelines and he's revealed to me time and time again that he's just not a good person in general. Again, I'm sorry but there was a line crossed and it just really hits a nerve with me

There's no smoke in my eyes. Did you read my perspective?

I've known Kage for several years, have spent many hours with him in person on multiple occasions and have had some quite frank conversations with him. If Kage perceived this as an insult to him in any way, shape or form, I'm certain he would call to talk about it.

I think you're sticking your nose into something that's not your business so please, drop the drama and butt out.

This is my last post to you on this topic. There's nothing else for me to say, nor defend.

well i'm gonna stick my nose in and butt in if i may.....first thing...Toneking is an awesome guy who cares about kage as well as everyone on this forum. I do as well....I consider Kage my friend as well.....so it becomes our business and our drama when we care about our friends....i know this is the internet...but i do consider Kage and Ralph and others friends...most of us here have come from HC etc....to get away from trolls and the likes....and after all carl has done to this forum and the people on it...i find it odd he was allowed back....I figured the moderators/administrators would like to keep rigtalk as problem free as possible...i know kage and others have thick skin and can take the harassment from carl but why allow it the chance to start up again? I hope carl is sincere in his apology...i really do...but Bob it seems you feel like your toes have been stepped on since someone disagrees with your decision as moderator...i know rigtalk is taken care of by a few folks....but just because Toneking (myself included) disagrees with the moderators decision...I don't think it was nice for you to tell him to butt out and drop the drama...everyone is entitled to an opinion...yeah i k now....opinions are like assholes....everyone has one......but you are friends with kage as toneking and myself are....we just disapprove of your decision...and you disagree with our way of thinking....so you can tell me to butt out and drop the drama as well.....won't change how i feel...nor how you feel i guess.. .....just trying to get you to see why we feel the way we do...now my rant is over

 

[Bob Savage]

but Bob it seems you feel like your toes have been stepped on since someone disagrees with your decision as moderator...i know rigtalk is taken care of by a few folks....but just because Toneking (myself included) disagrees with the moderators decision...I don't think it was nice for you to tell him to butt out and drop the drama...everyone is entitled to an opinion...yeah i k now....opinions are like assholes....everyone has one......but you are friends with kage as toneking and myself are....we just disapprove of your decision...and you disagree with our way of thinking....so you can tell me to butt out and drop the drama as well.....won't change how i feel...nor how you feel i guess.. .....just trying to get you to see why we feel the way we do...now my rant is over

Paragraphs are your friend.

It's not the disagreement with the decision that I care about, it's the way it was stated.

Did Kage indicate that he's been disrespected, off of this forum? If he has, that's news to me. He has my number and in fact, called and left a message earlier chatting a bit about the Axe-Fx. Kage sounded of good cheer with no hints of being disrespected.

If Kage thinks he has been disrespected, allow him to speak for himself and let's not turn this into something that it's not.

I also have an opinion which includes the butting out part. I would assume you have no problem with my opinion, based upon your comments I see no problem here.

This is my last word on this topic to you too.

 

[ttosh]

Carl has not even been back 24 hours and already the moods and tension level has changed.



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