AxeFx2 for apartment use

[Shask]

I love my Axe-FX II. That is really all that needs said. Can do anything you want.

 

[supersonic]

The Axe is the perfect amp for the OP. The answer to the haters is, the Axe can pull the tones but can you? The value issue is not important, what the OP is asking is will the Axe be good for what he needs?

 

[Doubleneck]

I purchased an Axe-FX II for the same reasons you are looking for one. The Axe-Fx does everything you are asking for, and it does it very well.

I would put the MFC money into a good pair of monitors first ...

Right know I'm going back and forth between getting a pair of Equator D5's or Adam A7x's. Bang for the buck is the Equator's but I REALLY want the Adams.

btw ... I own toob amps as well.

 

[Mizati20]

To the guy saying no resale value, you are just flat out wrong... sorry man, not saying you didn't have a hard time offing your stuff... but I can assure you that was a rare occurrence...

 

[kloppsta]

Quite. The Standard & Ultra are discontinued. Unsupported. Redundant. Old.

In time, so too will the AxeFX II. By its very nature of what it is & what it's made of, it cannot possibly retain its value. Fractal will stop supporting it, AxeEdit will evolve beyond the old hardware's capability, along with the user patch libraries etc etc etc.

Sorry dude but you seem to be applying your own experience to your logic and calling it fact across the board but you are wrong. Based on your logic of resale value being solely based on "technology" and how “current” it is then units like the Eventide H3000 should be selling for $20 or less. Technology and/or how "old" it is has nothing to do with resale value. It’s all about demand. If there are people willing to pay a certain price for something then you have a market. Until that market dries up then items, whatever they may be, will sell for whatever the market says they are worth.

Everything new depreciates some but there comes a time where things can go full circle and be worth more over time than they were at the time of their creation. Hence the “antique” “vintage” market, just look at the price of a vintage LP.

Not everything works this way, but in 20 years time the Axe Fx might become a “collector’s item” that people may be willing to pay $3k or more for! Who knows! In 20 years it could be the best “retro” guitar gadget that all the kids want!

FWIW, my own experience having owned and sold two Axe FX II’s and an Ultra is that I have never lost a dime. Perhaps that has to do with my own local (New Zealand) “market” (i.e. demand) being very high for these units as they are not available for sale brand new locally through any of our retailers.

 

[Ventura]

I would put the MFC money into a good pair of monitors first ....

Good advice

 

[JimmyBlind]

Quite. The Standard & Ultra are discontinued. Unsupported. Redundant. Old.

In time, so too will the AxeFX II. By its very nature of what it is & what it's made of, it cannot possibly retain its value. Fractal will stop supporting it, AxeEdit will evolve beyond the old hardware's capability, along with the user patch libraries etc etc etc.

Sorry dude but you seem to be applying your own experience to your logic and calling it fact across the board but you are wrong. Based on your logic of resale value being solely based on "technology" and how “current” it is then units like the Eventide H3000 should be selling for $20 or less. Technology and/or how "old" it is has nothing to do with resale value. It’s all about demand. If there are people willing to pay a certain price for something then you have a market. Until that market dries up then items, whatever they may be, will sell for whatever the market says they are worth.

Everything new depreciates some but there comes a time where things can go full circle and be worth more over time than they were at the time of their creation. Hence the “antique” “vintage” market, just look at the price of a vintage LP.

Not everything works this way, but in 20 years time the Axe Fx might become a “collector’s item” that people may be willing to pay $3k or more for! Who knows! In 20 years it could be the best “retro” guitar gadget that all the kids want!

FWIW, my own experience having owned and sold two Axe FX II’s and an Ultra is that I have never lost a dime. Perhaps that has to do with my own local (New Zealand) “market” (i.e. demand) being very high for these units as they are not available for sale brand new locally through any of our retailers.

Fractal will make the AxeFX II redundant at some point & they will stop supporting it. The computer interface technology will surpass it to the point where a modern computer & its latest operating system may no longer recognize it without emulation software. This is really the essence of my point. The very nature of what it is & how it is being constantly re-engineered with the latest computer technology & software means that, exactly like the computer & mobile handset market, the old technology will devalue.

Not taking away any of the unit's current capability. It's an excellent unit, just that digital, processor-based equipment doesn't tend to stand the test of time. The value of the unit is invested in the amp-modelling software & its development & support.

 

[scruffydoo]

The new atomic clr active monitors are worth a look, highly regarded and have 2 inputs so you can run a backing track and axe at once, I've tried amp and cab and wasn't super keen.

 

[TrueTone500]

Quite. The Standard & Ultra are discontinued. Unsupported. Redundant. Old.

In time, so too will the AxeFX II. By its very nature of what it is & what it's made of, it cannot possibly retain its value. Fractal will stop supporting it, AxeEdit will evolve beyond the old hardware's capability, along with the user patch libraries etc etc etc.

Sorry dude but you seem to be applying your own experience to your logic and calling it fact across the board but you are wrong. Based on your logic of resale value being solely based on "technology" and how “current” it is then units like the Eventide H3000 should be selling for $20 or less. Technology and/or how "old" it is has nothing to do with resale value. It’s all about demand. If there are people willing to pay a certain price for something then you have a market. Until that market dries up then items, whatever they may be, will sell for whatever the market says they are worth.

Everything new depreciates some but there comes a time where things can go full circle and be worth more over time than they were at the time of their creation. Hence the “antique” “vintage” market, just look at the price of a vintage LP.

Not everything works this way, but in 20 years time the Axe Fx might become a “collector’s item” that people may be willing to pay $3k or more for! Who knows! In 20 years it could be the best “retro” guitar gadget that all the kids want!

FWIW, my own experience having owned and sold two Axe FX II’s and an Ultra is that I have never lost a dime. Perhaps that has to do with my own local (New Zealand) “market” (i.e. demand) being very high for these units as they are not available for sale brand new locally through any of our retailers.

Fractal will make the AxeFX II redundant at some point & they will stop supporting it. The computer interface technology will surpass it to the point where a modern computer & its latest operating system may no longer recognize it without emulation software. This is really the essence of my point. The very nature of what it is & how it is being constantly re-engineered with the latest computer technology & software means that, exactly like the computer & mobile handset market, the old technology will devalue.

Not taking away any of the unit's current capability. It's an excellent unit, just that digital, processor-based equipment doesn't tend to stand the test of time. The value of the unit is invested in the amp-modelling software & its development & support.

"Logical... Flawlessly logical."
Mr. Spock

 

[zentman]

I buy everything I own based on what it will be worth in ten years. This is why I won't buy a cell phone, a lap top, a TV, a car, or anything that may devalue. I am very smart with my money. I have lots of money because I never buy anything at all.

 

[BYTOR]

I buy everything I own based on what it will be worth in ten years. This is why I won't buy a cell phone, a lap top, a TV, a car, or anything that may devalue. I am very smart with my money. I have lots of money because I never buy anything at all.

LOL....exactly.

None of us are even guaranteed to be alive 1 minute after reading this...much less 10 years from now.

Buy what the fuck you want(without being too careless) that makes you happy & stop obsessing on resale value.

 

[zentman]

I buy everything I own based on what it will be worth in ten years. This is why I won't buy a cell phone, a lap top, a TV, a car, or anything that may devalue. I am very smart with my money. I have lots of money because I never buy anything at all.

LOL....exactly.

None of us are even guaranteed to be alive 1 minute after reading this...much less 10 years from now.

Buy what the fuck you want(without being too careless) that makes you happy & stop obsessing on resale value.

I made the mistake of buying fridge once for $1500. Ten years later I sold it for 100 bucks! WTF! I'll never do that again, it's canned goods from now on.

 

[Ventura]

The new atomic clr active monitors are worth a look, highly regarded and have 2 inputs so you can run a backing track and axe at once, I've tried amp and cab and wasn't super keen.

Ya well no shit, you've got a Hagen. Kinda hard to impress someone when they own a Hagen

 

[robertkoa]

I buy everything I own based on what it will be worth in ten years. This is why I won't buy a cell phone, a lap top, a TV, a car, or anything that may devalue. I am very smart with my money. I have lots of money because I never buy anything at all.

LOL....exactly.

None of us are even guaranteed to be alive 1 minute after reading this...much less 10 years from now.

Buy what the fuck you want(without being too careless) that makes you happy & stop obsessing on resale value.

OK I am going to personally guarantee that everyone who reads the above will be alive for at least one minute,
so you guys can relax.....

 

[Ventura]

I buy everything I own based on what it will be worth in ten years. This is why I won't buy a cell phone, a lap top, a TV, a car, or anything that may devalue. I am very smart with my money. I have lots of money because I never buy anything at all.

LOL....exactly.

None of us are even guaranteed to be alive 1 minute after reading this...much less 10 years from now.

Buy what the fuck you want(without being too careless) that makes you happy & stop obsessing on resale value.

OK I am going to personally guarantee that everyone who reads the above will be alive for at least one minute,
so you guys can relax.....

Kinda hard to prove otherwise if yer bet goes sideways.

First sign of cardiac arrest? Death.

Just sayin'...

 

[shgshg]

Resale value on the AxeFX is utter, utter dogshit btw.

As you noted, the AxeFX is a computer. Resale on computers is dogshit, because newer better faster computers are always hitting the market.

 

[supersonic]

Resale value on the AxeFX is utter, utter dogshit btw.

As you noted, the AxeFX is a computer. Resale on computers is dogshit, because newer better faster computers are always hitting the market.

This argument may be valid to a point but is a stupid argument. The Axe II will still sound as good as it does today in ten years time. There will undoubtably be smaller, more powerful units, but the Axe will still have the same advantages over a valve amp. You may want to raise the question, will valves be available in ten years time?

 

[shgshg]

Resale value on the AxeFX is utter, utter dogshit btw.

As you noted, the AxeFX is a computer. Resale on computers is dogshit, because newer better faster computers are always hitting the market.

This argument may be valid to a point but is a stupid argument. The Axe II will still sound as good as it does today in ten years time. There will undoubtably be smaller, more powerful units, but the Axe will still have the same advantages over a valve amp. You may want to raise the question, will valves be available in ten years time?

I'm not talking about valve amps, I'm talking about modellers.

The Axe II will sound the same way in ten years time as it does today, but in ten years the idea of using a two-rackspace hardware unit that requires nonstop mains power to GET that sound may be a joke. If computing power doubles every two years that means in ten years the brain of a present-day Axe II will be ONE THOUSANDTH the power of its 2023 equivalent.

Unless you're selling within 12 months of purchase, the resale on a computer - any computer - is dogshit. And the Axe FX is just a computer. And, when you think about it, a pretty shitty one.

 

[Code001]

The computer argument is flawed because it does not directly translate to the music world. There are computer devices that have retained their value, and there are others that have gone up. You cannot compare logic to a field where people buy shit like this to "improve" their tone:

http://www.merlincables.com/index.php?r ... uct_id=103

Besides, if it sounds good, and you personally enjoy it, who really gives a fuck? Honestly?

 

[biggness]

Resale value on the AxeFX is utter, utter dogshit btw.

As you noted, the AxeFX is a computer. Resale on computers is dogshit, because newer better faster computers are always hitting the market.

This argument may be valid to a point but is a stupid argument. The Axe II will still sound as good as it does today in ten years time. There will undoubtably be smaller, more powerful units, but the Axe will still have the same advantages over a valve amp. You may want to raise the question, will valves be available in ten years time?

I'm not talking about valve amps, I'm talking about modellers.

The Axe II will sound the same way in ten years time as it does today, but in ten years the idea of using a two-rackspace hardware unit that requires nonstop mains power to GET that sound may be a joke. If computing power doubles every two years that means in ten years the brain of a present-day Axe II will be ONE THOUSANDTH the power of its 2023 equivalent.

Unless you're selling within 12 months of purchase, the resale on a computer - any computer - is dogshit. And the Axe FX is just a computer. And, when you think about it, a pretty shitty one.

Not anymore. Moore's Law has come to a crawl. Besides, the Axe-II uses two TigerSharc processors, which is at least 5 years old and still the latest and greatest in DSP's.