Bogner or Marshall cab?

[PSGuitar]

Out of all the 4x12's I've owned, Marshall, Mesa, and Bogner are my top 3 picks. I got rid of everything else, I still own Bogner, and Mesa. I did get rid of my marshal too, however wish I still had it.

One caveat on the bogners, I remove the batting because personally I do not like it.

I hear ya. I like the batting in my Bogner 212, never tried the 412.

Thanka for the feedback. I could grab a good Marshall locally for less than $500 or the Bogner or a Splawn for $700.
I love Splawn cabs but Guitar Center wants $599 for a Splawn hybrid cab. I've seen their cabs sell for $400-500.

 

[PSGuitar]

Thanks again guys...

I am down to the local Bogner 412 for $700, local Marshall JCM 900 1960A for $500 or a Splawn hybrid 412 which is a slant top design with an angled back straight baffle. It's at Guitar Center for $600 but I asked if they could do $40-500, so that with shipping and tax it would be a little under $600 total.

Only problem is that I already have a Splaqn cab and don't want too much repetition. I love the cabs. Mine is straight and this is tilt back straight front in an angled cab design.

Maybe I should still do the Bogner and get it over with.

 

[stephen sawall]

You can always find a Marshall cab. They are always around.
The Bogner I rarely see local used.
You know the Splawn is a good cab.

 

[PSGuitar]

You can always find a Marshall cab. They are always around.
The Bogner I rarely see local used.
You know the Splawn is a good cab.

I know, but hard to find English made Marshall's. This is the first I have found locally, all year.

I found one local that is a JCM 900 1960A, mint condition for $500.
Its a slant top, so it won't have the size, punch and fullness of a straight.

I like the Splawn hybrid but since it has a slant top design, it's got less cab space as a regular straight 412, so that could be a good change of pace since my main 412 is a straight Splawn. Trying to talk him down to $499.

The Bogner 412ST is a straight cab with a tilted or angled baffle.

The Marshall has English T75s and I would blend K100s.
The Splawn has Creambacks.
The Bogner has V30s and H30s

 

[PSGuitar]

 

[PSGuitar]

The Splawn hybrid is the black one posted above but this is an example of the design. I'm assuming it sounds like a straight can but with a steeply angled baffle. So I guess it has more of thr slant top sound but retains the punch and focus of a straight.
When I look at this, it appears to be the smallest by interior volume of all the cabs I'm looking at.
I love my Splawn straight cab but not sure if it will be too similar to have two Splawn 412cabs.
Of course I'll have different speakers.
But I could still do the Marshall or Bogner to add variety. I do have a Bogner 212 that sounds huge and punchy for a 212! I am tempted to stick with getting the Bogner.

Smaller cab size, similar to a slant top, I assume.

This is the design:

 

[Racerxrated]

No it’s just stapled on. You can easily reinstall it

I’ve added batting to a Marshall cab; became more ‘3D’ but lost some resonance. Like you said that’s the key to the Bogner cab tone.

 

[PSGuitar]

I think there is more to the Bogner cabs than the batting. I have used my Bogner with a plain back and semi open back. Both sound amazing and different from other cabs, so I know there is mor emagic than just the batting.
My Bogner 212 sounds huge, deep and dimensional.

That said, do you think I am better off just getting the Marshall JCM 900 slant cab for $450?

 

[CrazyNutz]

Yeah, there's more to the Bogner's. They are are heavy as fuck, compared to the marshals i've owned.

 

[PSGuitar]

Yeah, there's more to the Bogner's. They are are heavy as fuck, compared to the marshals i've owned.

Interesting, I haven't noticed a weight issue. My Bogner 212OS is no different than the weight of my other 212 cabs.

 

[cardinal]

Bogner cabs I think use a fixed baffle (glued all around, like Mesa cabs), while the Marshall is "floating" (just screwed on). The fixed baffle is a tighter seal. Mesa goes farther and tries to seal everything (using double-sided tape around the handles and back and jack plate) and somehow seem heavy as hell, so maybe the ply is thicker.

Just depends on how "tight" you want the cab.

 

[stephen sawall]

The market there must be different than here....older Marshall cabs pop up all the time here.

Here is my advice.....it doesn't matter at all what one you buy. They are all good cabs. Go try them and see what one you like. You can't tell anything from the internet about what one is for you. You need to actually use them to decide that.

 

[PSGuitar]

I can't try them first. They are all a far drive and I barely have time to try one. Plus I know I'll change speakers. I'll have to take a chance and order one.
You can't find Bogner and Splawna to play locally. It's the with amps - no place to go try stuff. You have to just take a chance and order.
That's how I got my last two amps. No place locally to test first.local music stores stopped selling amps for the most part. Bogner cabs, never see those.
In a perfect world, I would love to try before I buy. Not possible though. The last 3 amps I researched were order only. Nobody here carries Revv, PRS, Bogner, KSR, etc...
Nojody has Splawn or Bogner cabs either. The Splawn can is three states over. I had a T-75 Marshall cab years ago and it was OK.

 

[CrazyNutz]

Really IMHO you can't go wrong with either one.

 

[PSGuitar]

True!

 

[the4thlast1]

I have a Bogner 4x12 and a Splawn 4x12 . Dont get me wrong i like the Splawn but the Bogner is different in a good way. I would rather have both of them than two Splawns.

 

[PSGuitar]

I have a Bogner 4x12 and a Splawn 4x12 . Dont get me wrong i like the Splawn but the Bogner is different in a good way. I would rather have both of them than two Splawns.

Thanks.
I love my Splawn but would rather have variety. The other can is a Marshall 1960a.

 

[the4thlast1]

I dont have alot of experiwnce with the Marhsall. Ive played a bunch of Marhall cabs at rehearsal studios but not sure which models. The Bogner is easilly the most balanced sounding cab I have had. It also has a really nice character to it while still remaining tight and clear.

 

[panhead]

Its your choice of speakers that you like that will make the most difference.

 

[panhead]

All theses 4/12`s are based on marshall cabs, for the most part. Give or take the material used to build them.