Looking for 4x12 recommendations

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Hiwatts-n-Gibsons said:
FYI,, the Mojotone Grand Canyon 4x12 is basically the same cab as the Bogner 4x12B designwise minus the internal batting added to the Bogner. I have the Avatar version, and to my ears it is very similar to my old Bogner 412B. For me that's a good thing as I loved my old Bogner cab, and missed it from the moment I sold it.
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Are you possibly thinking about another cab? Compared to the Bogner 4x12B, the Grand Canyon has some different stuff going on construction wise beyond just the batting. It has different dimensions and a front port.
 
My Egnater 4x12 is built like a tank. They come stock with T75's and 2 K100's. The K100's are rebranded as Egnater Elite. I want to try V30's in it.
 
glpg80 said:
If you have to keep taking the cab apart to tighten the speakers then that’s my point to begin with. Mine are not originals but reissues. The baffles are not thick enough and you need an attached center post.

OP don’t sleep on OG peavey 5150 cabinets. Swap the speakers out to your preferences.
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If he doesn't like unscrewing the baffle I'd knock KSR off the list, the 2x12 I've got has a nasty reverberation I haven't had the chance to get an extension bit to unscrew the baffle to attempt to fix yet. (I doubt this is a common issue but just something to keep in mind)
 
Ngl, of all the cabs I've played, I still like Marshalls the best.

They're definitely not the best made, but there's this toppy quality I really like.

Now I like my 2x EVH, 2x GB 1960AX cab, but I think the bog standard 1960A with the T75s already sound amazing
 
I can only recommend what I've had for some time:

Mesa Traditional with their V30s
Splawn with their Small Blocks
Avatar with their Hellatones
 
Kagami said:
If he doesn't like unscrewing the baffle I'd knock KSR off the list, the 2x12 I've got has a nasty reverberation I haven't had the chance to get an extension bit to unscrew the baffle to attempt to fix yet. (I doubt this is a common issue but just something to keep in mind)
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Dang man that stinks, definitely not a problem I've had in my KSR 2x12. Cab is pretty tight compared to my 4x12 and somewhat directional/focused
 
fearhk213 said:
Are you possibly thinking about another cab? Compared to the Bogner 4x12B, the Grand Canyon has some different stuff going on construction wise beyond just the batting. It has different dimensions and a front port.
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I didn't realize they were ported. For some reason I thought I recalled them being the same as my Avatar in dimensions which is built just like my old Bogner. I was going off memory, and guess I mixed it up. I Should have checked before I spoke up.
 
I love the older marshall cabs, not a big fan of the newer ones.

I got a redplate 1960a copy that hit the right vintage specs for me. (bracing)

I would say figure out a sound or style youre looking for, then look for specs after you've narrowed it down.

For more "modern" style cabs, I like KSR's stuff.

Mills and Stoneage both made killer stuff if you can find it.
 
PiggySmallz said:
Dang man that stinks, definitely not a problem I've had in my KSR 2x12. Cab is pretty tight compared to my 4x12 and somewhat directional/focused
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I'm sure it'll be gone after remounting the baffle (I sent them a message and they told me to do this) but is always nice to let people know it can happen. Also I had to resolder the terminals on the mono/stereo output jack PCB because it stopped switching to mono and only worked in stereo so it'd probably be better to get the mono terminal for reliability.
 
I’ve heard good things about the Mojotone but never played one.

Fryette FB with Fane F70s is one of my favorites … 2 played together is tough to beat. Only thing I’ve like better is 2 Wizard cabs with Redbacks.

Never been a fan of the EVH cab. Hate the EVH speakers and when I change them out, the cab still doesn’t sound as good as my other cabs with the same speaker combos.
 
Kagami said:
I'm sure it'll be gone after remounting the baffle (I sent them a message and they told me to do this) but is always nice to let people know it can happen. Also I had to resolder the terminals on the mono/stereo output jack PCB because it stopped switching to mono and only worked in stereo so it'd probably be better to get the mono terminal for reliability.
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Mine cuts out if I switch amps on my switcher. I likely need to resolder the jack plate. Its a parallel mono but for whatever reason it will cut out and lose all volume after awhile, maybe after the connection warms up a little? Or from volume shaking things up. I swapped speakers so there's a chance it was my fault when removing the back cover
 
Check atlas cabinet out... wanted to get one few years back but halted due to space constraint....
 
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gybe! said:
They are definitely on my list. Especially the oversized 412, just have t seen much feedback on them
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I have the tall offset 4x12 from them. Well built, heavy, fairly resonant. Similar to an emperor but with thicker ply. Both can be a bit more finicky with speakers in my experience because they are so much more resonant. Good ordering experience and all that too.

I have an emperor 4x12 I was considering moving along because I kind prefer the atlas and they play in the same space, hit me up if that’s interesting.
 
gybe! said:
I am looking for another 4x12 because I have a sickness, but am currently running myself in circles….I would like to get something to compliment and expand on what I already have in both the cabinet construction as well as speakers.

Amp wise, plenty to match with: Hermanssons, Ground Zero, Lenz, Uber, Wizard…
Baritone to standard tuning. Russian Circles to Thrice to Fiddlehead to Cursive to Tool….

Currently have:
Older Marshall checkerboard slant loaded with Fane F70s
VHT fatbottom straight with scumbacks (H and J75 in X pattern)
Fryette D412 straight with Redback and V30 in an X pattern

Looking at/thinking about: Atlas, Mojotone Grand Canyon, KSR, Sound City (new Fryette version), other?

For Speakers am thinking some mix of Scumback BM75lds with redbacks or v30s, Creamback H75/m65 mix, or???

Have had a few Mesa, Bogner and Splawn cabs in the past; they’re fine but didn’t stand out to me. Obviously variations and speaker choice can play into that. Foolishly let go of the most resonant cab I found, a Framus 4x12 with V30s….seemed somewhat similar to Soldano in construction but tough to really say? Haven’t seen another one of those in the wild in years
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Swapping out 2 V30s in my Soldano 4x12 for Scumback BM75LDs in an x pattern transformed that cab from a loud, harsh ear killer...to a thing of beauty. Lowered the volume, gave it more complexity, depth, dimension, character. Totally saved that cab from the chopping block.
Now, can't say if it or the Marhsall straight 4x12 with English GB reissues is my fav. Both together is best.:)
The Soldano cab is the go-to for more modern sounds. More detail and punch than the Marshall. Not as vintage sounding, but still sweet. Killer for heavier stuff.

Tried 2 GBs with 2 V30s in the Soldano cab, first. Don't like that combination of speakers. Sounds flat, like some frequencies are being cancelled out or something, in any 4x12 I’ve heard that combo in.

V30 with H75 or WGS Invader is a great combo. V30/h75 in my Bogner OS2x12 and a buddy's horizontal Friedman 2x12. V30/Invader in another buddy's Friedman vertical 2x12. Both combos arrived at after much experimentation, recording clips. The Invader really surprised me in the vert Friedman, beat out a CB65 and H75.

In fact, sold another buddy a 4x12 with 2 v30s in an x pattern with an H75 and an Invader. Sounds freaking badass. Combined with his Mesa Mark V 25, can do anything. He has to sell it back to me if he ever gets rid of it.
 
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If you can find an older Avatar G412 Vintage cab, get it. I got some very good well broken in V30's in mine and it's probably the best cab I've heard. Unfortunately Avatar no longer makes these. They don't make any 4x12's at all anymore.
 
I have two Marshall 4x12's I'll be listing soon. A '73 angled and a '74 straight, both with the original creambacks, the bottom cab speakers are 55hz. It's a monster combo and I'll let them both go for $1600. Won't find a better bang for your buck, or better sounding cabs IMO. I'm in Shreveport LA if you want to deal.
 
Find a Randall War head 4x12?
Still the best cab for anything really
 
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