Cameron 20w head prototype..

[scottosan]

What make s it a CCV prototype vs a Jose, since the CCV is hose based with lots of options, this doesn't appear to have many options, so isn't it really more of a single channel Jose based amp? Or is it called CCV since it's a ground up build and not a mod?

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

Cameron threads never disappoint! Ya I’m lol’ing @ the price as well. This isn’t even a regular full sized CCV. Can’t imagine what a real CCV costs...or looks like...or sounds like in person ect ect.

it’s almost 2020 and we are still waiting for the CCV to get in “production mode” I could go on and on.

Frozen pizzas for everyone! Sounds good to me.

Mama Celeste sausage sounds the best. Why sausage? Because we all know you'll wind up with the kielbasa in the end.

 

[Thunkful]

Sounds pretty nice!

How are the 6v6s compared to EL84 and EL34s? A lot of builders seem to opt for them when it comes to lunchbox amps. A local builder here uses EL91s for smaller amps and they sound really good for such a small wattage.

 

[Luca79]

I wonder how is built; PTP i guess. Is possible to see, or too many secrets under the hood?

 

[xzyryabx]

So Mark still owes people old CCVs but is doing custom amps currently? Does not compute. Fill us in plox.

I have zero musical interest in Cameron and his amps, but it's been interesting following the saga on the forums.
He seems like a scumbag to me, at least when it comes to the business of making/selling amps, so nothing shady related to this guy would surprise me now. Reminds me of the Bernie Rico Jr. saga, but worse since he's still making/selling amps. I'm still shocked that the guys that got hosed on those CCVs didn't get together and go after him legally.
I've always wondered why someone legit like EXPcustom associates with him business wise, especially after the King Guitar CCV mess, but I guess the answer is that they're probably offline friends and he's making money somehow so good for him I guess.
And about the cost, people can ask however much they want, it's none of anybody's business asides the buyer and seller. At the end of the day the market will dictate the value.

 

[panhead]

I have had a sneaking suspicion that most of these 20 watter el 84 amps are repackaged/modded jet city heads minus marshall

 

[napalmdeath]

"SuckerFreeGear". That's a catchy seller name.

Yup, that's the idea and I have close to 20 years of 100% feedback from .50 pots and knobs to 25k guitars.

Anything I sell I stand behind and have warrantied but don't take my word for it, I'm sure other people can vouch for me or you can read my feedback on Ebay or Reverb.

I hear ya, I know you're a good dude. It's definitely a killer little amp.

I think the schmucks asking and paying $5, 6, $7,000 for an SLO with a shitty effects loop blow my mind.

 

[EXPcustom]

What make s it a CCV prototype vs a Jose, since the CCV is hose based with lots of options, this doesn't appear to have many options, so isn't it really more of a single channel Jose based amp? Or is it called CCV since it's a ground up build and not a mod?

It was a custom order for a customer who backed out last minute, they wanted a 20 watt single channel CCV high gain 6v6 amp real simple straight forward control wise. I won't take deposits on any custom orders so these come up for sale by me when a customer backs out at the last minute.

 

[EXPcustom]

Sounds pretty nice!

How are the 6v6s compared to EL84 and EL34s? A lot of builders seem to opt for them when it comes to lunchbox amps. A local builder here uses EL91s for smaller amps and they sound really good for such a small wattage.

Thanks,

It also has an adjustable bias circuit in it so you could put in EL34s or even 6L6GCs in it if you wanted to and compare yourself. In fact if I was to keep this I think I would try out all kinds of tube combinations. Mark seems to prefer the 6v6 tubes for this particular voltage.

 

[riffsfordaze]

I'll stick with my full size single channel CCV... though it's in the classifieds for here for $3k

Seems like Mark's getting out about 2 amps a year at this point, if he can get that for them more power to him

Most of the heads are private deals so you never actually see them on the public market till we get the CCVs back under production again. Only reason this one is even on Reverb was it was custom ordered and the original buyer backed out at the last minute.

As for any outstanding CCVs they will be reimbursed when the CCVs are back in production.

$2,000 paid through Jerry on 10/4/10 and $1,000 paid direct to Mark Cameron 1/17/11 for the Cameron CCV.

You seem like a stand up guy, not sure why you would step into this train wreck and state... " As for any outstanding CCVs they will be reimbursed when the CCVs are back in production."

Where i come from a man's word is his word, handshake done. If your word is broken you are anathema and excuses will not make you whole. At this point, those of us owed CCVs will believe you when they arrive at our doorsteps.

 

[Thunkful]

Sounds pretty nice!

How are the 6v6s compared to EL84 and EL34s? A lot of builders seem to opt for them when it comes to lunchbox amps. A local builder here uses EL91s for smaller amps and they sound really good for such a small wattage.

Thanks,

It also has an adjustable bias circuit in it so you could put in EL34s or even 6L6GCs in it if you wanted to and compare yourself. In fact if I was to keep this I think I would try out all kinds of tube combinations. Mark seems to prefer the 6v6 tubes for this particular voltage.

Cool, in fact you can do that with my current amp also, i've tried few tubes with it but never 6v6s. Might give them a chance in future.

 

[ClintN667]

its gotta be an insult to see amps being sold when you are owed one. Ive had people shit me a lot in the past and some I could let slide depending on how they treated me after screwing me over. Shit happens but if they kept me in the loop and worked on paying me back I would be cool. Those guys that avoided me were the ones I couldnt forgive or let go.

 

[guitarded_1]

I’m pretty sure that the outstanding issues extend farther back than the CCV chapter. I think Mark might have also sold some folks on his Houdini Mod - the one where you send in your amp and he makes it disappear.

 

[311boogieman]

Cameron stuff obviously has baggage, and it seems understandable for people to be upset over pretty much anything he does.

But it has seemed that the forum has been a bit negative lately. It used to be just a wild amp-flipping celebration of kick ass gear, expensive or not. Seems different lately. I know at least one guy who has an undeniably killer amp but decided not to post it because he figured he'd actually get bashed for it since "it's too expensive" or whatever.

I totally agree. Except I honestly believe things have been very positive around here lately. There was a time when there were all kinds of shitstorm threads revolving around Blades, Phaez, pedal builders, CharvelWho, Bugera and of course Cameron. I think Brad at one point banned all Cameron threads and tried to shut that down. Can't blame him.

BTW - I think EXPCustom is trying to do the right thing by getting Mark busy again. But at 2 per year it could be awhile - if I read that right.

Just sayin'

 

[EXPcustom]

Cameron stuff obviously has baggage, and it seems understandable for people to be upset over pretty much anything he does.

But it has seemed that the forum has been a bit negative lately. It used to be just a wild amp-flipping celebration of kick ass gear, expensive or not. Seems different lately. I know at least one guy who has an undeniably killer amp but decided not to post it because he figured he'd actually get bashed for it since "it's too expensive" or whatever.

I totally agree. Except I honestly believe things have been very positive around here lately. There was a time when there were all kinds of shitstorm threads revolving around Blades, Phaez, pedal builders, CharvelWho, Bugera and of course Cameron. I think Brad at one point banned all Cameron threads and tried to shut that down. Can't blame him.

BTW - I think EXPCustom is trying to do the right thing by getting Mark busy again. But at 2 per year it could be awhile - if I read that right.

Just sayin'

Just to clarify a few things, It's not 2 amps per a year, most of the amps we do are straight custom orders for individual buyers so the only amps you guys actually see are if the original buyer backs out so we just put it up for general sale. We are not making amps at a Bogner or Friedman rate but once we do and get the CCV into production the intent is to reimburse those owed amps.

I have stayed in touch with the original buyers of the CCVs to keep them up to date and many will be receiving either an amp or cash refund once those go back into production.

Our first regular production product will be coming in the next 4-6 weeks and will be Mark's plug in module that I think many will be impressed with. If that one is successful then we hope to ramp up production of regular amps including CCVs.

If someone wants to produce the CCVs for us well then they can send me a private message here and we will got the ball rolling. Problem is many contract manufacturers no longer have the soldering skill set available in the USA since this type of production went over seas for most companies in the last 10-15 years.

This leaves Mark and I in a position that we have to hire and train such employees one at a time and hope the turn over rate isn't too high.

I know lots of people think pizza jokes and why isn't he building CCVs right now comments are funny or proactive, but they really aren't because we need funds to be able to establish a production line. Most of you don't know that Barrang went bankrupt mid production and sold off many of the CCV components and schematics that I was franticly buying back from electronics recyclers in the state with my own personal money to hopefully make something happen with the Cameron brand.

Hope this answers most of the posters comments in this thread.

 

[Kelly]

Cameron stuff obviously has baggage, and it seems understandable for people to be upset over pretty much anything he does.

But it has seemed that the forum has been a bit negative lately. It used to be just a wild amp-flipping celebration of kick ass gear, expensive or not. Seems different lately. I know at least one guy who has an undeniably killer amp but decided not to post it because he figured he'd actually get bashed for it since "it's too expensive" or whatever.

I totally agree. Except I honestly believe things have been very positive around here lately. There was a time when there were all kinds of shitstorm threads revolving around Blades, Phaez, pedal builders, CharvelWho, Bugera and of course Cameron. I think Brad at one point banned all Cameron threads and tried to shut that down. Can't blame him.

BTW - I think EXPCustom is trying to do the right thing by getting Mark busy again. But at 2 per year it could be awhile - if I read that right.

Just sayin'

Just to clarify a few things, It's not 2 amps per a year, most of the amps we do are straight custom orders for individual buyers so the only amps you guys actually see are if the original buyer backs out so we just put it up for general sale. We are not making amps at a Bogner or Friedman rate but once we do and get the CCV into production the intent is to reimburse those owed amps.

I have stayed in touch with the original buyers of the CCVs to keep them up to date and many will be receiving either an amp or cash refund once those go back into production.

Our first regular production product will be coming in the next 4-6 weeks and will be Mark's plug in module that I think many will be impressed with. If that one is successful then we hope to ramp up production of regular amps including CCVs.

If someone wants to produce the CCVs for us well then they can send me a private message here and we will got the ball rolling. Problem is many contract manufacturers no longer have the soldering skill set available in the USA since this type of production went over seas for most companies in the last 10-15 years.

This leaves Mark and I in a position that we have to hire and train such employees one at a time and hope the turn over rate isn't too high.

I know lots of people think pizza jokes and why isn't he building CCVs right now comments are funny or proactive, but they really aren't because we need funds to be able to establish a production line. Most of you don't know that Barrang went bankrupt mid production and sold off many of the CCV components and schematics that I was franticly buying back from electronics recyclers in the state with my own personal money to hopefully make something happen with the Cameron brand.

Hope this answers most of the posters comments in this thread.

You guys have had 8 years to make things right. Put down the crack pipes, get real jobs, and give people their money back.

 

[sytharnia1560]

Not sure why all the butthurt over what someone wants for a piece of gear. Who cares? It's not like you have to buy it, right? And, 3400? People list Custom LPs all the time for 5-7K. Myself, I laugh at that. GTFO. For a Les Paul?? Cmon. But, others love them and EASILY justify what they want to pay for them. Good for them. I'll be happy with my 1-1.5K Charvel all day.
Friedmans go for 3K...used. Wizards? 5K or more after all the fees coming out of Canada. Hell, if I list my C+ Coliseum 1x15 combo someday it'll be for north of 5K. Why? Go ahead and find another.
Just because someone lists an amp for what you think is an outrageous price, doesn't mean it won't sell for that. I see a few MIJ LP copies for sale now here...and I laugh because I can get the same thing or better for MUCH lower, and that's shipped from Japan. Lol. Cameron modded Marshalls have increased in value from 1500-2K to 3K or more lately. Too much? Well, not for everybody since they move pretty quickly.

Lunchbox 20w head at $3400. Thats why.

even if he sells only one then your point is moot

 

[EXPcustom]

Cameron stuff obviously has baggage, and it seems understandable for people to be upset over pretty much anything he does.

But it has seemed that the forum has been a bit negative lately. It used to be just a wild amp-flipping celebration of kick ass gear, expensive or not. Seems different lately. I know at least one guy who has an undeniably killer amp but decided not to post it because he figured he'd actually get bashed for it since "it's too expensive" or whatever.

I totally agree. Except I honestly believe things have been very positive around here lately. There was a time when there were all kinds of shitstorm threads revolving around Blades, Phaez, pedal builders, CharvelWho, Bugera and of course Cameron. I think Brad at one point banned all Cameron threads and tried to shut that down. Can't blame him.

BTW - I think EXPCustom is trying to do the right thing by getting Mark busy again. But at 2 per year it could be awhile - if I read that right.

Just sayin'

Just to clarify a few things, It's not 2 amps per a year, most of the amps we do are straight custom orders for individual buyers so the only amps you guys actually see are if the original buyer backs out so we just put it up for general sale. We are not making amps at a Bogner or Friedman rate but once we do and get the CCV into production the intent is to reimburse those owed amps.

I have stayed in touch with the original buyers of the CCVs to keep them up to date and many will be receiving either an amp or cash refund once those go back into production.

Our first regular production product will be coming in the next 4-6 weeks and will be Mark's plug in module that I think many will be impressed with. If that one is successful then we hope to ramp up production of regular amps including CCVs.

If someone wants to produce the CCVs for us well then they can send me a private message here and we will got the ball rolling. Problem is many contract manufacturers no longer have the soldering skill set available in the USA since this type of production went over seas for most companies in the last 10-15 years.

This leaves Mark and I in a position that we have to hire and train such employees one at a time and hope the turn over rate isn't too high.

I know lots of people think pizza jokes and why isn't he building CCVs right now comments are funny or proactive, but they really aren't because we need funds to be able to establish a production line. Most of you don't know that Barrang went bankrupt mid production and sold off many of the CCV components and schematics that I was franticly buying back from electronics recyclers in the state with my own personal money to hopefully make something happen with the Cameron brand.

Hope this answers most of the posters comments in this thread.

You guys have had 8 years to make things right. Put down the crack pipes, get real jobs, and give people their money back.

I never took anyones money without delivering a product first, I have a "real" job and I really don't need the personal attacks against me. I don't owe anyone money as I wasn't part of the original run with Chris nor Brad. No one sent me any money for an undelivered product. Any amp mods sent through me were delivered, none "disappeared" as some claim. You dealt with me you got your product 100% of the time, I turn down business for amp mods all the time because we simply don't have the time for it as Mark has a back log to complete.

It was an understanding with Mark and I that if we get the business back up and running the backlog on CCVs will be made whole again. As of now it's a few amps here and there that he sells through my business till we get amps ramped up into production.

 

[Tone Monster]

Cameron stuff obviously has baggage, and it seems understandable for people to be upset over pretty much anything he does.

But it has seemed that the forum has been a bit negative lately. It used to be just a wild amp-flipping celebration of kick ass gear, expensive or not. Seems different lately. I know at least one guy who has an undeniably killer amp but decided not to post it because he figured he'd actually get bashed for it since "it's too expensive" or whatever.

I totally agree. Except I honestly believe things have been very positive around here lately. There was a time when there were all kinds of shitstorm threads revolving around Blades, Phaez, pedal builders, CharvelWho, Bugera and of course Cameron. I think Brad at one point banned all Cameron threads and tried to shut that down. Can't blame him.

BTW - I think EXPCustom is trying to do the right thing by getting Mark busy again. But at 2 per year it could be awhile - if I read that right.

Just sayin'

Just to clarify a few things, It's not 2 amps per a year, most of the amps we do are straight custom orders for individual buyers so the only amps you guys actually see are if the original buyer backs out so we just put it up for general sale. We are not making amps at a Bogner or Friedman rate but once we do and get the CCV into production the intent is to reimburse those owed amps.

I have stayed in touch with the original buyers of the CCVs to keep them up to date and many will be receiving either an amp or cash refund once those go back into production.

Our first regular production product will be coming in the next 4-6 weeks and will be Mark's plug in module that I think many will be impressed with. If that one is successful then we hope to ramp up production of regular amps including CCVs.

If someone wants to produce the CCVs for us well then they can send me a private message here and we will got the ball rolling. Problem is many contract manufacturers no longer have the soldering skill set available in the USA since this type of production went over seas for most companies in the last 10-15 years.

This leaves Mark and I in a position that we have to hire and train such employees one at a time and hope the turn over rate isn't too high.

I know lots of people think pizza jokes and why isn't he building CCVs right now comments are funny or proactive, but they really aren't because we need funds to be able to establish a production line. Most of you don't know that Barrang went bankrupt mid production and sold off many of the CCV components and schematics that I was franticly buying back from electronics recyclers in the state with my own personal money to hopefully make something happen with the Cameron brand.

Hope this answers most of the posters comments in this thread.

You guys have had 8 years to make things right. Put down the crack pipes, get real jobs, and give people their money back.

It’s really just this. Ponzi scheme is still in full effect. Taking orders in new custom amps while older orders are left to rot. COMPLETE goddamn bullshit. Strangely enough I feel like EXP Custom is a good guy trying to “fix Mark”. Ain’t happening. Ever. Such a sad shit show especially when he has the genius of making some of the best amps in history. Fucking weird.

 

[Tone Monster]

Now with modelers kicking so much ass, Cameron Amps will NEVER be profitable. That ship has sadly sailed. Toot-a-loo!!