Cameron CCV or CAA PT-100?

[50MkII]

I addressed my last post based on the OP's question of comparing the two amps. Steve K is right, these two amps have different things going on with them although I would consider them roughly in the same ballpark. To suggest other amps that would give the "ultimate Marshall" tone is more difficult and daunting. I remember several years ago people saying a Bogner was just a "glorified Marshall". To each is their own. When I hear someone requesting an amp for what the OP requested for leads me to think they are after something more than a great sounding Marshall.

 

[gkinsingapore]

Wow, I have a PT100 and don't find it overally bright in the least bit, the Womp switch is definately usable, the bottom isn't loose and its very Marshall sounding so take this review with a grain of salt and try before you buy if possible.

Totally agree.

Dont forget the controls on the back of the amp which can easy dial in a 'loose' bottom end

The PT 100 also has a killer clean channel if you need that

 

[zee1usa]

Which one?
I'm looking for the ultimate Marshall.

"If you want a Marshall, get a Marshall..." might sound cliche, but totally true.

I chased the Marshall sound with other amps ad nauseum. I lucked into an old plexi and it
surpasses everything and just has "it."

Good luck in your search.

Full circle....

+1


The CCV def has a good bit of marshall thing going on and it rips (you may like it better than the ultimate marshall?) but it still not a marshall. Never tried the PT unfortunately, but I do know the CCV is magical.

 

[zee1usa]

Which one?
I'm looking for the ultimate Marshall.

"If you want a Marshall, get a Marshall..." might sound cliche, but totally true.

I chased the Marshall sound with other amps ad nauseum. I lucked into an old plexi and it
surpasses everything and just has "it."

Good luck in your search.

Full circle....

You've gone in many circles Steve.........and continue.

It's like wiping your ass on a wagon wheel, it never ends

Digital Jams says: "Shipping amps sucks as it is, would rather drive a 7" spike through a 2x4 with my dick."

 

[philb]

Wow, thanks for the response guys.
I had a 1976 JMP Super bass that was modded by Dave Bray but while the sound was amazing, it still suffered
by having a loose bottom end. I thought about getting an old Marshall but the problem is you need to crank it
*and* boost it to make it usable IMHO.

I don't like pedals at all, I want guitar - cable - amp.

I using a Mesa Mark IV and V right now and I'm basically looking for a Marshall flavored amp with the convenience of a channel switcher to supplement the Marks. Also, it has to sound good at low volume
Yea, it's a tall order but listening to the CCV, it sounds like it could fit the bill or the PT100.

 

[steve_k]

Wow, thanks for the response guys.
I had a 1976 JMP Super bass that was modded by Dave Bray but while the sound was amazing, it still suffered
by having a loose bottom end. I thought about getting an old Marshall but the problem is you need to crank it
*and* boost it to make it usable IMHO.

I don't like pedals at all, I want guitar - cable - amp.

I using a Mesa Mark IV and V right now and I'm basically looking for a Marshall flavored amp with the convenience of a channel switcher to supplement the Marks. Also, it has to sound good at low volume
Yea, it's a tall order but listening to the CCV, it sounds like it could fit the bill or the PT100.

As a quick fix, throw a quad of EL34's in the Mark V and give Channel 2 a go.

Steve

 

[philb]

Wow, thanks for the response guys.
I had a 1976 JMP Super bass that was modded by Dave Bray but while the sound was amazing, it still suffered
by having a loose bottom end. I thought about getting an old Marshall but the problem is you need to crank it
*and* boost it to make it usable IMHO.

I don't like pedals at all, I want guitar - cable - amp.

I using a Mesa Mark IV and V right now and I'm basically looking for a Marshall flavored amp with the convenience of a channel switcher to supplement the Marks. Also, it has to sound good at low volume
Yea, it's a tall order but listening to the CCV, it sounds like it could fit the bill or the PT100.

As a quick fix, throw a quad of EL34's in the Mark V and give Channel 2 a go.

Steve

Yeah, that's a great suggestion!

 

[Inca Roads]

For Fuck sakes, it all boils down to "PERSONAL TASTE"!!
I bought a Brand new CCV a couple of months back and
it is a Beautiful, High Quality built and sounding amp. There
was just something a bit off in the voicing for my taste, can't
describe it, that's just how it was. Bought a PT-100 and
"PRESTO" the voicing that is tailored made for me.
I then added the OD100SE+ to pair along side her,
The CAA/Suhr product has what I dig Tonally & Quality.
Neither the PT, SE+, CCV are better than each other,
rather different, wonderful flavors for each to enjoy according
to their "personal taste".

The PT has a "Feedback" knob on the back that allows you to Dial
the amp for a Loose & squishy attack like a (Dual Recto/Uberschall)
or Very Tight & Focused like a (VHT/Splawn)
Also a "Presence" knob that will allow you that Crystal like Chime
on the clean channel or a Brighter tone on the Lead channels.
The "Whomp" switch allows you 2 additional levels of "Bottom End"
Thump that is very workable.

That's That!! "PERSONAL TASTE"
Hope that Helped.

 

[glip22]

For Fuck sakes, it all boils down to "PERSONAL TASTE"!!
I bought a Brand new CCV a couple of months back and
it is a Beautiful, High Quality built and sounding amp. There
was just something a bit off in the voicing for my taste, can't
describe it, that's just how it was. Bought a PT-100 and
"PRESTO" the voicing that is tailored made for me.
I then added the OD100SE+ to pair along side her,
The CAA/Suhr product has what I dig Tonally & Quality.
Neither the PT, SE+, CCV are better than each other,
rather different, wonderful flavors for each to enjoy according
to their "personal taste".

The PT has a "Feedback" knob on the back that allows you to Dial
the amp for a Loose & squishy attack like a (Dual Recto/Uberschall)
or Very Tight & Focused like a (VHT/Splawn)
Also a "Presence" knob that will allow you that Crystal like Chime
on the clean channel or a Brighter tone on the Lead channels.
The "Whomp" switch allows you 2 additional levels of "Bottom End"
Thump that is very workable.

That's That!! "PERSONAL TASTE"
Hope that Helped.

 

[Inca Roads]

I think it's my "No Bullshit"
Boston Attitude, that just Flows out naturally Gary.

 

[50MkII]

For what it is worth, Mark Cameron said he designed channel 1 of the CCV to "sound like Ed".

Inca, what cabinet(s) did you use with the CCV you had?

When putting forth this kind of money on purchases like this, it really is quite important to try these things out in person if you have the chance to see what suits your interest. Unfortunately, a lot of people are not quite as fortunate as those of us that are able to demo these amps out before purchasing.

Like this?

 

[Inca Roads]

Inca, what cabinet(s) did you use with the CCV you had?

Like this?

Yup, Just like that!

I have my Engl Pro 4X12's and a Shitload
of speaker combinations.
I like many different speakers H30's, Greenbacks
even V30's but I ran the CCV with the Scumback M75's,
Sounded Great!

 

[Digital Jams]

Which one?
I'm looking for the ultimate Marshall.

"If you want a Marshall, get a Marshall..." might sound cliche, but totally true.

I chased the Marshall sound with other amps ad nauseum. I lucked into an old plexi and it
surpasses everything and just has "it."

Good luck in your search.

Full circle....

You've gone in many circles Steve.........and continue.

It's like wiping your ass on a wagon wheel, it never ends

Digital Jams says: "Shipping amps sucks as it is, would rather drive a 7" spike through a 2x4 with my dick."

I still approve this statement, life has lots to offer one that stops and looks around. Once one stops I really do not think "You know what would be fucking awesome today????? If I ship a 50 pound amp I just bought 2 weeks ago I will be living La Vida Loca!!!!!!!!" is living his mission statement.

 

[glpg80]

Ultimate Marshall? Find a good 70's JMP, boost it with a tube screamer, and play it on a Marshall 4x12 with broken in Greenbacks. It will smoke all these new channel switchers as long as you can turn it up.

+2

also the PT based on a marshall? Where did this come from?

John worked for fender for years, the PT100 is the Pete Thorn (sp?) signature model, based off of his 5150 III - not a marshall.

that is why it has the overt levels of gain and why people who are looking for marshallesque attitudes have been disappointed.

 

[bwgintegra]

Ultimate Marshall? Find a good 70's JMP, boost it with a tube screamer, and play it on a Marshall 4x12 with broken in Greenbacks. It will smoke all these new channel switchers as long as you can turn it up.

+2

also the PT based on a marshall? Where did this come from?

John worked for fender for years, the PT100 is the Pete Thorn (sp?) signature model, based off of his 5150 III - not a marshall.

that is why it has the overt levels of gain and why people who are looking for marshallesque attitudes have been disappointed.

I would like to know where you got this information from? The PT-100 based off the 5150 III, I doubt it!

 

[glpg80]

Ultimate Marshall? Find a good 70's JMP, boost it with a tube screamer, and play it on a Marshall 4x12 with broken in Greenbacks. It will smoke all these new channel switchers as long as you can turn it up.

+2

also the PT based on a marshall? Where did this come from?

John worked for fender for years, the PT100 is the Pete Thorn (sp?) signature model, based off of his 5150 III - not a marshall.

that is why it has the overt levels of gain and why people who are looking for marshallesque attitudes have been disappointed.

I would like to know where you got this information from? The PT-100 based off the 5150 III, I doubt it!

Came directly from Johns mouth and Pete Thorn himself who is a member of RT - hence the reason "PT100" for Pete Thorn. If you dont believe me then ask John himself. I have no reason to spread bullshit

Also Pete Thorn did a review of his new signature model CAA100+ called the PT100 here on the forum. If you want further confirmation there are threads archived in RT's history about its release.

Prepare to be doubted

 

[bwgintegra]

Ultimate Marshall? Find a good 70's JMP, boost it with a tube screamer, and play it on a Marshall 4x12 with broken in Greenbacks. It will smoke all these new channel switchers as long as you can turn it up.

+2

also the PT based on a marshall? Where did this come from?

John worked for fender for years, the PT100 is the Pete Thorn (sp?) signature model, based off of his 5150 III - not a marshall.

that is why it has the overt levels of gain and why people who are looking for marshallesque attitudes have been disappointed.

I would like to know where you got this information from? The PT-100 based off the 5150 III, I doubt it!

Came directly from Johns mouth and Pete Thorn himself who is a member of RT - hence the reason "PT100" for Pete Thorn. If you dont believe me then ask John himself. I have no reason to spread bullshit

Yeah, I know Pete's a member here. I have personally met Pete and owned the PT-100 and 5150 III. I will own the new Suhr branded PT100 when it's released. I have stayed in the loop of the PT100 talk and never heard anyone ever mention it being related to the 5150 III. I'm not questioning your post but it was the first I heard of it.

 

[glpg80]

Pete had a 5150 III and wanted John to build the PT100 around a few changes he wanted made based off of the 5150 III he owned at the time as the core tone.

here is the initial post back in 2009, it was before you joined the forum.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=54624

 

[petethorn]

Really guys- the current PT100 doesn't have anything to do with a 5150III- other than I was using one before, and really liked the ch2 on that amp. John knew what I dug, and built a completely different amp, using his standard OD100 clean (the best in the biz IMHO) and then ch2 and ch3 are his own creation, based off knowing what I like.

The dirt in the PT is pretty much modded Marshall in character. John has described it to me as being like a modded out JCM800. It does hi gain of course but you can get great lower gain Marshallesque tones with it too (I use the gain on ch2 on 5, and I use it with Don Henley like that, for example I play a LP on Hotel Cali with gain on 5 and bright switch off and I think it sounds appropriate for the song).

 

[TrueTone500]

CCV!