Can Our Country Be Any More Morally Bankrupt & On The Wrong Side Of History

Ok, that changed my mind. I'm rooting for Iran now.





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You don’t have to root for Iran. But it’s a bad look when a Shia Muslim country is going to bat for christians of the Middle East than the so called Christian United States. :dunno:

Then again the average American Christian doesn’t give a crap about middle eastern christians…. I think the Palestine and Lebanon situation has put that on full blast.
 
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Some of those are among the oldest Christian communities in the world, and are numbered among my orthodox brothers and sisters. It's sad though, American Christianity is quite detached from most of it, and to a large degree do not hold to the faith in the same way. I think they auto assume palestine/syria/lebanon=muslims. I don't understand it tbh, but at the same time, and in their defense, they have had the israel=chosen people lie shoved down their throats by their "faith leaders" for decades. A plain reading of Deuteronomy ends that charade, but most people do not read their bibles anymore. I know because we used to buy all the donated bibles in the thrift shop until we had more than we had space to keep.
 
Some of those are among the oldest Christian communities in the world, and are numbered among my orthodox brothers and sisters. It's sad though, American Christianity is quite detached from most of it, and to a large degree do not hold to the faith in the same way. I think they auto assume palestine/syria/lebanon=muslims. I don't understand it tbh, but at the same time, and in their defense, they have had the israel=chosen people lie shoved down their throats by their "faith leaders" for decades. A plain reading of Deuteronomy ends that charade, but most people do not read their bibles anymore. I know because we used to buy all the donated bibles in the thrift shop until we had more than we had space to keep.
The sad thing is that even those who are sympathetic towards Palestine, Syria and Lebanon, typically non Christians, they are almost always in defense of the Muslims. The Christians have been completely forgotten by everyone. And american christians, as you say act as though the region is completely muslim, so the christians and other non muslim minorities don’t exist to them.

This is basically an impossible conversation to have with someone like my significant other, as she is a full blown Zionist and it’s just heart breaking. She doesn’t listen to me but she tries very hard for me to either accept her views, or makes attempts for me to not even talk about it.
 
The sad thing is that even those who are sympathetic towards Palestine, Syria and Lebanon, typically non Christians, they are almost always in defense of the Muslims. The Christians have been completely forgotten by everyone. And american christians, as you say act as though the region is completely muslim, so the christians and other non muslim minorities don’t exist to them.

This is basically an impossible conversation to have with someone like my significant other, as she is a full blown Zionist and it’s just heart breaking. She doesn’t listen to me but she tries very hard for me to either accept her views, or makes attempts for me to not even talk about it.
The brainwashing is deep. It takes time to undo. 20 years ago I thought the same way until the past five to ten years I slowly realized that it was all a fabrication. The deeper I dug into Talmudic writings the more I came to understand their faith leaders don't just disbelieve in Christ, but actively hate and curse him. In conjunction with self study I did into the origins of zionism I came to understand it was basically a movement of atheist-secular jews rather than some miracle of the Lord.
 
The brainwashing is deep. It takes time to undo. 20 years ago I thought the same way until the past five to ten years I slowly realized that it was all a fabrication. The deeper I dug into Talmudic writings the more I came to understand their faith leaders don't just disbelieve in Christ, but actively hate and curse him. In conjunction with self study I did into the origins of zionism I came to understand it was basically a movement of atheist-secular jews rather than some miracle of the Lord.
These atheist secular Jews will still say God promised them the land though. Real head scratcher if you ask me.
 
These atheist secular Jews will still say God promised them the land though. Real head scratcher if you ask me.
And interestingly, the ultra-orthodox that still read Torah and not just Talmud do not believe Israel is a legitimate state i.e it's an affront to God.
 
And interestingly, the ultra-orthodox that still read Torah and not just Talmud do not believe Israel is a legitimate state i.e it's an affront to God.
I've never been of the opinion Israel belonged to jews by diving right. Israel belongs to jews because no one in the middle east is big enough to take it from them.
 
I've never been of the opinion Israel belonged to jews by diving right. Israel belongs to jews because no one in the middle east is big enough to take it from them.
Well it's not like Jews just took it on their own. It was quite literally just given to them. And all those land sales, which is used as an argument, were sales done by what would be akin to landlords selling a property with no regard to any tenant. Jewish terrorism against the British also just ended up making the area a liability.
 
I've never been of the opinion Israel belonged to jews by diving right. Israel belongs to jews because no one in the middle east is big enough to take it from them.
It's sold to the protestant christian west as some sort of divine God given land, but that isn't an accurate biblical interpretation per the Torah. They violated the agreement so their claim is null and void. The reality is we gave and sold them enough weapons to maintain their borders.
 
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Well it's not like Jews just took it on their own. It was quite literally just given to them. And all those land sales, which is used as an argument, were sales done by what would be akin to landlords selling a property with no regard to any tenant. Jewish terrorism against the British also just ended up making the area a liability.
I didn’t say they took it. I said no one in the Middle East is bad enough to take it from them.

June 5 1967, prior to the US supplying them with fighter jets, they took out how many countries’ Air Forces in a single day ?
 
I didn’t say they took it. I said no one in the Middle East is bad enough to take it from them.

June 5 1967, prior to the US supplying them with fighter jets, they took out how many countries’ Air Forces in a single day ?
They struck first, and struck hard. And if religious jewish and protestant versions of the story are to be believed, were assisted by none other than God himself in some of the battles.
 

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