Celestion Greenbacks vs. WGS green beret

[Mr. Willy]

To me, it sounds thin, hard, stiff, cold. A good Greenback (broken in, from England, China, wherever) is gonna be warm, smooth, woody, rich, and complex. I understand what the poster is talking about. I had a quad of Warehouse Veteran 30's in my Bogner, but I missed the cut and presence of Vintage 30's, so I swapped 2 of the Warehouse out and slapped V30's in. the cab sounds better now, but I'm probably gonna replace the Veteran 30's with H30's or Vintage 30's. I'm probably done trying speakers other than Celestion. They just do it for me.

That's not what I asked him. I asked him what he liked more about the Chinese Greenbacks when compared to the Heritage Greenbacks. Then I asked him what "cheap" sounds like.

I was describing what "cheap" sounds like to me. Just trying to be helpful with my response. Sorry it sucked for you. Good luck.

 

[Cflat96]

To me, it sounds thin, hard, stiff, cold. A good Greenback (broken in, from England, China, wherever) is gonna be warm, smooth, woody, rich, and complex. I understand what the poster is talking about. I had a quad of Warehouse Veteran 30's in my Bogner, but I missed the cut and presence of Vintage 30's, so I swapped 2 of the Warehouse out and slapped V30's in. the cab sounds better now, but I'm probably gonna replace the Veteran 30's with H30's or Vintage 30's. I'm probably done trying speakers other than Celestion. They just do it for me.

That's not what I asked him. I asked him what he liked more about the Chinese Greenbacks when compared to the Heritage Greenbacks. Then I asked him what "cheap" sounds like.

I was describing what "cheap" sounds like to me. Just trying to be helpful with my response. Sorry it sucked for you. Good luck.

You're response didn't suck. I didn't mean to sound like I was being rude. I was just clarifying, because at first glance I didn't realize you were telling me what cheap was to you. Sorry.

 

[squank]

...I even think the Chinese Green backs are as good or better than the expensive Heritage Celestion Green backs.

Green Beret sounds cheap. Greenbacks sound warmer and richer, thicker.

Just curious. What do you like more about the Chinese Greenbacks when compared to the Heritage version?

Also, what does "cheap" sound like? People say that a lot when comparing something that actually costs less, but I never understood how that relates to how something sounds.

Thanks.

To me, it sounds thin, hard, stiff, cold. A good Greenback (broken in, from England, China, wherever) is gonna be warm, smooth, woody, rich, and complex. I understand what the poster is talking about. I had a quad of Warehouse Veteran 30's in my Bogner, but I missed the cut and presence of Vintage 30's, so I swapped 2 of the Warehouse out and slapped V30's in. the cab sounds better now, but I'm probably gonna replace the Veteran 30's with H30's or Vintage 30's. I'm probably done trying speakers other than Celestion. They just do it for me.

I wonder if the comparison was fair...

Not trying to stir the pot, just wondering if comparing a well used and broken-in set of speakers to a new set is really fair. The reason I ask is because I did a side by side comparison of NEW Greenbacks to NEW Green Berets just last week, and the results were quite different.

Now, mind you, I've never played new GBs before. Only old, broken-in ones. The Greenbacks I tested sounded much brighter than I've ever heard GBs sound. They were missing the classic crunch you think of for GBs, and what you hear in the comparison clip posted above. The new GBs actually sounded closer to V30s - which really surprised me.

After doing the side by side with new GBs and new Green Berets, I couldn't say which one I would choose. It also makes me wonder how the Green Berets will sound once they get really broken in.

 

[some dude]

After doing the side by side with new GBs and new Green Berets, I couldn't say which one I would choose. It also makes me wonder how the Green Berets will sound once they get really broken in.

Out of all the speakers I've broken in Green Berets were the ones that changed the most. When I installed them they sounded so bad I almost cried. Mechanically they were super stiff and I had to use some crazy settings to get a usable tone (they were all mids with no detail/articulation, and I remember the bass being on zero and still getting a muddy, undefined tone).

After about 2 hours they started to loosen up and I could start EQing my amp normally. It probably took two weeks of regular loud playing before they fully settled. In the end they sounded pretty good.

That said, once I got my hands on a set of G12M-25s and A/B'd them I realized the Green Berets were history.

 

[squank]

After doing the side by side with new GBs and new Green Berets, I couldn't say which one I would choose. It also makes me wonder how the Green Berets will sound once they get really broken in.

Out of all the speakers I've broken in Green Berets were the ones that changed the most. When I installed them they sounded so bad I almost cried. Mechanically they were super stiff and I had to use some crazy settings to get a usable tone (they were all mids with no detail/articulation, and I remember the bass being on zero and still getting a muddy, undefined tone).

After about 2 hours they started to loosen up and I could start EQing my amp normally. It probably took two weeks of regular loud playing before they fully settled. In the end they sounded pretty good.

That said, once I got my hands on a set of G12M-25s and A/B'd them I realized the Green Berets were history.

That's very interesting. I'm interested to see how much these Green Berets of mine change as they break in.

Did you just break them in by playing, or did you use another technique?

 

[some dude]

Did you just break them in by playing, or did you use another technique?

Played loud.

 

[richedie]

There must be something wrong with those clips or speakers.
To me, WGS equivalent speakers are always warmer, thicker and smoother.

 

[richedie]

There must be something wrong with those clips or speakers.
To me, WGS equivalent speakers are always warmer, thicker and smoother.