I have 2 68s on the top row of my 68 straight cab. 2 69 1221s on the bottom.
Did the BB T1511 have the 014 cones? Never liked the 70’s era speakers much. I was going to get Scumback to make me some like mine were. May try these when they come out.
No it was mostly 444 Kurt Mueller cones by then from memory.
These are the typical Kurt Mueller cones with 444 stamps....I've also had a cream back cab from 74 with RIC T1511s. They all have a mid scoop to them that for me are near perfect with a Marshall. The BBs though are extra aggressive.
Were they always a standard model? Not that I looked around back then, just thought they were a pre rola thing that eventually ran its course and was replaced with something else.
Interesting, mine were not scooped, pretty balanced overall. Solid tight bass. Regular GB’s do sound scooped to me. Pretty bummed when they died.
Maybe it's more of a 'balanced' tone like you say, vs actually mid scooped. The regular T1221 GB has a mid bump, so when I hear those vs the 1511 it seems scooped to me. Although, the 74 creambacks definitely seemed more scooped than these 77s.
I haven’t been around the 1221’s very much other than the 90’s 6402 Wizard used and the modern ones. I don’t hate those, well except for recording. These more modern ones sound somewhat scooped to me. And the low end is more ratty than I prefer. But they can work.
I have two vintage Fanes with Pulsonic cones, one of which is a 25 watt 55hz bass cone. What a warm, sweat, and clear sounding speaker that purrs when driven to breakup. It definitely was not scooped sounding though, especially with any kind of overdrive or speaker breakup.it's still not a T1221 with Pulsonic cones.
Mine were in the two 68 Marshall cabs I have.
