Celestion modeling speaker

[RaceU4her]

Anyone try these?? If im gonna jump into modeling for the first time with some kind of NAM loader into the FX loop of one of my amps, should i grab a couple of these for one of my 2x12'S??

The F12-X200 is a dedicated guitar speaker for amp modelers and IRs. It’s truly a full range driver that delivers a frequency response from 60Hz all the way up to 20kHz. The higher frequency part of the signal is reproduced using a Celestion compression driver which has been integrated using a high-quality crossover circuit. This enables the F12-X200 to reproduce the full spectrum of audible frequencies for the most accurate output possible whatever your environment and set-up.

The F12-X200's response is remarkably neutral, with Celestion technology built in to ensure there are no unwanted colorations that can overpower the input signal. However, the lighter moving mass and straighter sided cone of the type commonly used with guitar speakers gives the X200 the feel and live response of a traditional guitar speaker, delivering all the physical feedback you'd expect from playing through a conventional guitar rig. Used with amp modellers or IRs, in a backline cab or a wedge monitor, on stage or in the studio, it doesn't just sound like great guitar tone, it feels like it too.

 

[cardinal]

I think they got antiquated when things like the Fender FR10 and FR12 came out with a more guitar-cab-like FRFR cab.

 

[GJgo]

A buddy of mine has a quad of these in a 4x12 that he uses when running a Fractal + Crown power amp. I've played a lot of the different amp models through it for amps I've owned, and it's not bad. I wouldn't go selling the OGs, but I'd definitely gig it.

 

[thegame]

The high end extends to 20Khz? Finally I can nail those Yehuda tones!

 

[RaceU4her]

The high end extends to 20Khz? Finally I can nail those Yehuda tones!

OMG

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

I think they got antiquated when things like the Fender FR10 and FR12 came out with a more guitar-cab-like FRFR cab.

I thought this is the speaker those cabs use?

 

[cardinal]

I thought this is the speaker those cabs use?

Fender just calls what they use a "special designed" speaker.

The Wampler Pedal Head guy is out hyping up this Celestion though.

 

[Findthetone1]

I'm actually interested in hearing what people think of it as well. I'm considering going back to modeling (amp, not underwear) and I was thinking of putting one in my Mojotone Canyon 1X12.

 

[TheGreatGreen]

It’s a cool concept but I’m skeptical about how realistic it would sound. I’d like to hear a cab with these and a few different IR’s through it just to know. It wouldn’t need to be a totally convincing 1:1 with the real cab, just “good” and realistic / present like a real speaker.

I wonder if it’s closer to something that really does emulate other speakers, or if it simply turns your guitar cab, sound and feel, into a differently shaped PA.

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

Fender just calls what they use a "special designed" speaker.

The Wampler Pedal Head guy is out hyping up this Celestion though.

I stand corrected. These are the ones where you build a ported cabinet to Celestion specs and then they are supposed to be excellent.

 

[Promit]

I thought this is the speaker those cabs use?

Barefaced uses it: https://barefacedaudio.com/collections/frfr-active/products/reality112fr
That's the only OEM application I know of, but I have to assume that it's pretty decent if that's the driver those guys went with.

 

[chumbucket]

Anyone try these?? If im gonna jump into modeling for the first time with some kind of NAM loader into the FX loop of one of my amps, should i grab a couple of these for one of my 2x12'S??

The F12-X200 is a dedicated guitar speaker for amp modelers and IRs. It’s truly a full range driver that delivers a frequency response from 60Hz all the way up to 20kHz. The higher frequency part of the signal is reproduced using a Celestion compression driver which has been integrated using a high-quality crossover circuit. This enables the F12-X200 to reproduce the full spectrum of audible frequencies for the most accurate output possible whatever your environment and set-up.

The F12-X200's response is remarkably neutral, with Celestion technology built in to ensure there are no unwanted colorations that can overpower the input signal. However, the lighter moving mass and straighter sided cone of the type commonly used with guitar speakers gives the X200 the feel and live response of a traditional guitar speaker, delivering all the physical feedback you'd expect from playing through a conventional guitar rig. Used with amp modellers or IRs, in a backline cab or a wedge monitor, on stage or in the studio, it doesn't just sound like great guitar tone, it feels like it too.

Unless you plan on using a bunch of different styles of amps, I'd just go with a regular guitar speaker cab and forgo using any IRs. Less bullshit.

 

[Devin]

Yeah if you're gonna be running this through a cab just skip the IR and use your normal speakers IMO

 

[cardinal]

The only reason I can think of to use some type of frfr cab is to save weight by using a powered frfr cab.

If I were using an unpowered 1x12 cab, I'd probably just use a 1x12 with a V30.

 

[rsm]

interesting.

I use powered PA cabs with my modelers; in stereo. I also use hi and low cut on the cabs, usually in or right after the cab block...my Helix Stadium has it in the cab block.

 

[rsm]

NAM captures and/or separate IRs? You're going to be sorting through a lot of examples. to compare.

I mentioned in another recent thread that Celestion has IRs for their speakers in different cab configurations....if I needed IRs, I'd just start there.


edit: https://www.celestionplus.com/

 

[GJgo]

Personally, I’d rather go direct to PA and monitors and skip lugging a frfr cab.

Even at home, a lot of these digital solutions sound killer through a PA speaker and then you have something that’s useful in other context.

 

[njshred]

The complaint about modelers is they can sound shrill. Regular guitar speakers do not produce over 8kz, so you will need to use a filter block or cut to ensure you do not produce non realistic guitar tones.

 

[jski59]

When these came out, Celestion released a ton of demo videos.


I'm been meaning to grab a Triple Cone (or pair) just to have something to screw around with vs my usual preferred Marshall/Scumback combo.

I know Port City says they work well in their cabs vs having to build the specified Celestion cab.

 

[valve]

The complaint about modelers is they can sound shrill. Regular guitar speakers do not produce over 8kz, so you will need to use a filter block or cut to ensure you do not produce non realistic guitar tones.

yeah 20kHz seem overkill and counterproductive. doubt they are very linear