Celestion modeling speaker

[Promit]

The complaint about modelers is they can sound shrill. Regular guitar speakers do not produce over 8kz, so you will need to use a filter block or cut to ensure you do not produce non realistic guitar tones.

Correction: they don’t produce much over 8k. That’s quite different from not producing anything. The expectation here is that you would be feeding this speaker a cab sim/IR sound, which would already apply the appropriate roll off. The speaker’s job, in theory, is to stay out of the way.

 

[njshred]

Correction: they don’t produce much over 8k. That’s quite different from not producing anything. The expectation here is that you would be feeding this speaker a cab sim/IR sound, which would already apply the appropriate roll off. The speaker’s job, in theory, is to stay out of the way.

Ask anyone with an Axe Fx, IRs do not provide the cut you are describing, so users use a cut in the cab block.

 

[Promit]

Ask anyone with an Axe Fx, IRs do not provide the cut you are describing, so users use a cut in the cab block.

IRs provide exactly what they're recorded (& processed) to provide. Producers have taken a wide range of approaches on this front. My personal opinion is that if an IR requires low or high cuts in the cab block, it's not a very well made IR. This in turn is built around the expectation that the IR producer is not throwing a few mics on the grill wherever they fancy, firing some sweeps, and calling it a day. With my chosen IRs, I haven't felt the need to use high cut in years. Low cut is a little situational on taste, room, and mix.

In any case, you said it yourself - the modeler has the tone shaping control. I don't want the speaker attempting to do it.

 

[psychodave]

I have a pair I don’t use. Probably have 3 hours on them when I got an Axe Fx a few years back. They sounded good when I use them.

 

[RaceU4her]

A buddy of mine has a quad of these in a 4x12 that he uses when running a Fractal + Crown power amp. I've played a lot of the different amp models through it for amps I've owned, and it's not bad. I wouldn't go selling the OGs, but I'd definitely gig it.

I have a pair I don’t use. Probably have 3 hours on them when I got an Axe Fx a few years back. They sounded good when I use them.

are you guys using them with the IR's??

Unless you plan on using a bunch of different styles of amps, I'd just go with a regular guitar speaker cab and forgo using any IRs. Less bullshit.

thats what i want a modeler for, to try endless combinations of amps and speakers, i thought this was basically just a neutral speaker to use IR's with and not color anything, it seems it would be silly to run a v30 IR through my T75 cab or whatever, im not sure thats what it was intended for though watching a couple videos

 

[chumbucket]

are you guys using them with the IR's??




thats what i want a modeler for, to try endless combinations of amps and speakers, i thought this was basically just a neutral speaker to use IR's with and not color anything, it seems it would be silly to run a v30 IR through my T75 cab or whatever, im not sure thats what it was intended for though watching a couple videos

For example, if you favor high gain amps through a V30 IRL, just use a real V30 cab with no IR block and use the high gain amp models.

If you plan on trying out Fender Blackface, Vox AC30, etc., then get the Celestion modeling speaker and use IRs.