Checking out, It's been good gents (PSA on Savageriffer)

[scottosan]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

 

[harsh59]

Post a pic of your Pro Am before you go!

+1 on this . To the OP , one thing I don't understand is if I felt somebody here did me wrong or pissed me off , I would not leave . It's like they are telling you to leave . I just wouldn't deal with them . BTW I don't have a dog in this fight .

 

[maddnotez]

I am just stirring the pot here but no where in the Classified post does it day there is anything wrong with a guitar or that a side truss does not work.

Assuming THIS is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=192758

If all that is accurate then yeah, that is a bit shady and no it is not a random buyers responsibility to check other threads for an issue on said item for sale.

However that is no reason for OP to leave a forum. Call him out and move on is what I would do.

To the newer members, this forum is pretty cool. I have only been here since 2009 I think.

I have seen a decline, no offense rig talk but it is true. The place used to be much more interesting for me. You can see my obnoxious post count but I haven't posted much in a while. Maybe it is because forums are no longer new to me? idk.

I have seen some good people leave for bad reasons and it sucks. I have also seen talks of how awesome RT was even before I joined, like way back in the days there was some high profile people on here.

I have seen a lot of drama, had some arguments. Maybe a few melt downs. But I will forever bee grateful to Rig Talk for the priceless amount of info I have learned from all you guys over the years. Even if you are a bunch of cock rock cucks, you are cool in my book.

 

[SavageRiffer]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

--- And fuck you Madnotez. Anyone can criticize a trade thread and make whatever the fuck they want out of it. If your dumb, troll ass traded anything, anyone could as easily make whatever you say out to be something it's not. "Why didn't you say this or why didn't you say that?" You're a fucking troll idiot, you attack me personally, and you have ZERO credibility to talk about anyone else. Where the fuck is your 15 year eBay rating? Where the fuck is your Reverb premier seller status? Where the fuck are all your great trades on the forum? You have exactly jack shit to criticize me for.

You're too stupid to realize how ridiculous it is to convict someone based on pretense. You're an uneducated dipshit with a penchant for trolling and nothing more. "Satriani's music is garbage" Oh yeah, that kind of stupidity is your great contribution to this forum. You have NO place to criticize me punk.

 

[maddnotez]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

Here is my take on it. Random outsider than doesn't know either of you. No skin.

THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

Does this guitar neck have the side adjustment on it but a broken side adjustment? That is what the accusation appears to be from my end?

If yes, then that should absolutely be disclosed.

If no and the neck just simply did not come with this option then who gives a flying fuck?

 

[sleewell2]

so many fighting words in this thread. what country club will be hosting the beat down?

 

[SavageRiffer]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

Here is my take on it. Random outsider than doesn't know either of you. No skin.

THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

Does this guitar neck have the side adjustment on it but a broken side adjustment? That is what the accusation appears to be from my end?

If yes, then that should absolutely be disclosed.

If no and the neck just simply did not come with this option then who gives a flying fuck?

Come play it yourself motherfucker. Bring all of your little troll buddies too. Take a look at the motherfucking guitar and then tell me to my face something is wrong with it. If I'm wrong about any of it, I will give that motherfucking guitar away to a random forum member. That's how confident I am in my fucking integrity.

So enough of your bullshit talk. Shut the fuck up and be a man of action. Let's put the shit on the fucking table and let the guitar speak for itself. You can harp on and on all you want, but I'm not the one stopping at just talk. ANYONE - INSPECT THE GUITAR YOURSELF. I WILL PAY TO HAVE IT CERTIFIED BY A PROFESSIONAL TECH.

WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT MOTHERFUCKER? GET YOUR COWARD FUCKING ASS OUT OF HERE LIKE YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING TO DO. THIS BULLSHIT IS SHAMEFUL. DON'T LINGER AROUND MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF. GO ON YOUR MERRY FUCKING WAY AND LET BIGMOUTH ON THIS FORUM JUDGE THE FACTS. ENOUGH BULLSHIT. WHO IS GOING TO INSPECT THIS GUITAR? LET'S DO IT RIGHT NOW. WHICH ONE OF YOU BIGMOUTHS WANTS TO STOP TALKING AND PROVE ME WRONG?

I'LL DRIVE THE FUCKING GUITAR TO ANYWHERE IN THE HOUSTON AREA TODAY FOR INSPECTION. LET'S DOCUMENT THIS WHOLE THING AND DO VIDEO. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE. I STAND BEHIND ALL OF MY TRADES. NOW COME ON YOU COWARD PIECES OF SHIT, SHUT YOUR MOUTHS AND PROVE ME WRONG.

-- Fuck you sleewell. You're a broken record. What's the matter, you didn't get enough attention with that same post in my trade thread that you felt compelled to duplicate it here? Pathetic.

 

[sleewell2]

oh man caps lock engaged. dude is serious!!!!

 

[SavageRiffer]

That's what I thought. You fuckers are nothing but talk. None of you have any god damned balls. Carry on Internet tough guys.

 

[scottosan]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

Here is my take on it. Random outsider than doesn't know either of you. No skin.

THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

Does this guitar neck have the side adjustment on it but a broken side adjustment? That is what the accusation appears to be from my end?

If yes, then that should absolutely be disclosed.

If no and the neck just simply did not come with this option then who gives a flying fuck?

here is the pic of the side truss adjust that it doesn’t have

 

[sleewell2]

i just love fucking with you. every single time you take the bait and rage type some 3 page frothing at the mouth hysterical nonsensical jibberish. i imagine you have to clean off your monitor 4-5 times per post and break your arm patting yourself on the back as you hit post.

seriously dude i question your mental health and have no doubt you haven't gotten laid in quite a long time. you should disconnect for a long time and seek help.

 

[maddnotez]

I’ll take that as a yes, side truss is Broken. You’re trolling yourself at this point. Seek halp.

 

[SavageRiffer]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

Here is my take on it. Random outsider than doesn't know either of you. No skin.

THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

Does this guitar neck have the side adjustment on it but a broken side adjustment? That is what the accusation appears to be from my end?

If yes, then that should absolutely be disclosed.

If no and the neck just simply did not come with this option then who gives a flying fuck?

here is the pic of the side trust that it doesn’t have

What the fuck is that supposed to prove dumbass? All you do is talk. Cut the bullshit talk. Let's get the fucking guitar inspected. You harp on and on with absolutely nothing to go on, but you ignore any attempt to physically prove it. Until you stop running your damned mouth and prove something, you are just full of shit. FULL OF SHIT. Now run along coward. Be a man and depart like you said you would. So far, all you've proven is that you're FULL OF SHIT.

It still has the pickguard plastic on it by the way. It's damned attractive. That's a nice pic.

 

[scottosan]

So I was not going to post again but felt compelled to do so to leave one last bit of state of affairs here since there has been some offline interaction with some moderators. The mods cannot be expected to read through every post, at least I personally don’t think it’s a reasonable expectation. That being said perhaps I am the problem here since a I’ve gotten similar responses from 2 different mods.

So I read some of his threads and to be honest, it seems like he's pretty helpful most of the time, until random people come in to attack for no apparent reason. Reading more threads and it seems as it's always the same people following him around to post shit in his threads.....

Final question to SR: does the Gotoh side adjust work or not work on the guitar in question? It’s a reasonable question which only requires a yes/no answer.

Anyway this is not me changing my mind about leaving just acknowledging that if the mods thinks he’s the victim again that’s all we need to know.

Peace

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

Thanks man.

Send me that guitar, I'll let him know if it works..

Haven't we traded before? I'll do it if you're willing to be the objective evaluator and put an end to Scottosan's sick little crusade.

does the side truss work or not? The question is not a crusade. It’s a legitimate question

Read the trade thread. It's stated clearly there, and it has been stated clearly there since I created the thread. I quoted you twice what it said. At this point, all I can advise you to make the answer more clear is to point you to an elementary school that can teach you how to read.

so since it’s posted in an unrelated thread, you think it’s okay to omit that information that the side adjust DOES NOT function from your for sale ad? You feel the burden is on the customer to know that or have read through your rant thread?

Pathetic. I knew you were a prick before, but I at least had some small degree of respect for your love of gear and knowledge of amps. Now, I have zero respect for you. You're a wretched coward. I'm going to end this shit right now so that you'll finally shut the fuck up. In reality, all I'm doing is repeating myself, but it seems that you're so fucking dense and compelled to carry on your shameful crusade that it's necessary to repeat myself... again.

I don't know how to put this more clearly:

* I WILL PUT THAT GUITAR UP FOR EVALUATION BY A PROFESSIONAL TO CERTIFY THAT THE NECK, TRUSS ROD, AND ALL OTHER COMPONENTS ON THAT GUITAR ARE 100% FUNCTIONAL.

* THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

* IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOUBTS WHATSOEVER ABOUT THE QUALITY OF MY GUITARS, YOU ARE WELCOME TO INSPECT THEM IN PERSON.

Therefore, little asshole, I don't know how to make it more crystal fucking clear to you. I don't know how to be more fucking transparent than that. I don't know how to be more fucking willing to obtain pre-approval from any potential fucking buyer than that. I'm not here to play your fucking pathetic little games. It's about time you give up your sick little crusade. If you want to know, play the motherfucking guitar yourself. You are welcome to it as I have absolutely nothing to hide. If you want, I'll give you a side adjustment nut that you can go and shove right up your ass for free.

Here is my take on it. Random outsider than doesn't know either of you. No skin.

THE NECK ON THAT GUITAR ONLY HAS THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT. THERE IS NO SIDE ADJUSTMENT. THE SIDE ADJUSTMENT IS A CONVENIENCE FEATURE AND IS NOT MEANT TO BE USED TO DO FULL TRUSS ROD ADJUSTMENTS. THE HEEL ADJUSTMENT IS WHAT THAT'S FOR.

Does this guitar neck have the side adjustment on it but a broken side adjustment? That is what the accusation appears to be from my end?

If yes, then that should absolutely be disclosed.

If no and the neck just simply did not come with this option then who gives a flying fuck?

here is the pic of the side trust that it doesn’t have

What the fuck is that supposed to prove dumbass? All you do is talk. Cut the bullshit talk. Let's get the fucking guitar inspected. You harp on and on with absolutely nothing to go on, but you ignore any attempt to physically prove it. Until you stop running your damned mouth and prove something, you are just full of shit. FULL OF SHIT. Now run along coward. Be a man and depart like you said you would. So far, all you've proven is that you're FULL OF SHIT.

It still has the pickguard plastic on it by the way. It's damned attractive. That's a nice pic.

can you have an opposing discussion minus the name calling? The bottom line is that the guitar has a part built into it that no longer functions and because the is an alternative methods of servicing the guitar that it’s okay to not disclose that the part in question no longer works. Again if the side adjustment as insignificant as you mentioned then why did you meltdown and roast Warmoth when yours broke? I guess double standards and integrity is only applicable to opposing parties.

 

[maddnotez]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

 

[scottosan]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

The guitar has a heel truss and a side adjust intended for intermittent adjustments without having to remove the neck. Yes the guitar is still very useable, but the fact that the side adjust function no longer works should be listed by an honest seller. I don’t see how anyone would disagree with that notion.

 

[maddnotez]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

The guitar has a heel truss and a side adjust intended for intermittent adjustments without having to remove the neck. Yes the guitar is still very useable, but the fact that the side adjust function no longer works should be listed by an honest seller. I don’t see how anyone would disagree with that notion.

Exactly, would seriously be no big deal I assume but still should be disclosed.

Literally all he had to do was say yeah you are right and edit the sale thread accordingly but as history shows this guy just can't seem to not rage.

 

[SavageRiffer]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

THERE ARE NO TRUSS ROD ISSUES. The TRUSS ROD IS PERFECTLY FINE. I GUARANTEE IT. I OFFERED TO HAVE IT EVALUATED BY ANYONE ON THE FORUM OR A PROFESSIONAL TECH. I said that over and over again. Just because you dumbasses keep saying it doesn't make it true. Hey dummy, let me dumb this down for you - there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guitar. I will prove that to anyone. There are not truss rod issues. The truss rod functions 100% perfectly. There is no side adjust mechanism - and as stated in my trade thread - there is only a heel adjust. There is nothing more to it. All the bullshit you dumb motherfuckers are making up all by yourselves. You're on a witch hunt and you're making fools of yourselves and destroying your own credibility by doing so. I guarantee 100% that the guitar is 100% functional in every aspect.

You and the idiot Scottosan over here are trying to say that because the side adjust mechanism isn't included that somehow there's something wrong with the guitar. PROVE IT... P R O V E I T! I WELCOME ANYONE TO INSPECT IT. You are both liars and despicable trolls. Hey dummy, if a guitar is missing a string does that make it a faulty guitar? Of course not, and you both know this, but you're trying to make bullshit out of something that's not there. You are pathetic.

You are all talk. You have zero credibility. Thanks for vindicating me and showing everyone that I'm not the asshole around here.

 

[maddnotez]

You proved in yourself.

The thread was posted in the first post here. In your own words you said the side adjustment broke. You are literally delusional.

I have jokingly said to others that they are delusional before but this is actually the first time where it is medically true.

 

[Riggins1966]

here is the pic of the side truss adjust that it doesn’t have

a shame. Sure is a pretty guitar.