Checking out, It's been good gents (PSA on Savageriffer)

[scottosan]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

THERE ARE NO TRUSS ROD ISSUES. The TRUSS ROD IS PERFECTLY FINE. I GUARANTEE IT. I OFFERED TO HAVE IT EVALUATED BY ANYONE ON THE FORUM OR A PROFESSIONAL TECH. I said that over and over again. Just because you dumbasses keep saying it doesn't make it true. Hey dummy, let me dumb this down for you - there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guitar. I will prove that to anyone. There are not truss rod issues. The truss rod functions 100% perfectly. There is no side adjust mechanism - and as stated in my trade thread - there is only a heel adjust. There is nothing more to it. All the bullshit you dumb motherfuckers are making up all by yourselves. You're on a witch hunt and you're making fools of yourselves and destroying your own credibility by doing so. I guarantee 100% that the guitar is 100% functional in every aspect.

You and the idiot Scottosan over here are trying to say that because the side adjust mechanism isn't included that somehow there's something wrong with the guitar. PROVE IT... P R O V E I T! I WELCOME ANYONE TO INSPECT IT. You are both liars and despicable trolls. Hey dummy, if a guitar is missing a string does that make it a faulty guitar? Of course not, and you both know this, but you're trying to make bullshit out of something that's not there. You are pathetic.

You are all talk. You have zero credibility. Thanks for vindicating me and showing everyone that I'm not the asshole around here.

you miss the point entirely. No one is saying the truss rod doesn’t work. The point is that the side adjust option is broken. We get that the heel adjust is still their. No one is debating that. This is not about if the neck can still be adjust. It’s about being honest and disclosing if options or parts that are part of the guitar not longer work. Your name calling and aggression have done nothing to acknowledge or address that an installed part on a guitar that is being sold no longer works.

Now that we established that, does the side adjust work?

 

[mooncobra]

if you leave I would miss the build threads and hearing your amps when they are done.

 

[maddnotez]

Now that we established that, does the side adjust work?

Hopefully this will be my last post in this thread.

However, every so often I see something so magical that it must be added to the signature immediately. This time has come again.

If you do leave Scott I bid you farewell, just know that your words here today will forever be remembered.

 

[SavageRiffer]

You really are a piece of work.

I had never intended to dive this deep into your truss rod issues but given your ridiculous responses and refusal to address the simple question, I took it upon myself to read the thread.

Here are some of my favorite excerpts. I deleted non relevant words but did not alter anything.

These are your own words, not in series.

If you're willing to shell out over 9k over 4 years why are you making such a big deal over 120 bucks? What does their warranty specifically state?

That wasn't the issue here. The issue is that I never got to the point of getting warranty service because the little prick on the phone didn't believe that the truss rod was defective. The guitar was finished, strung up, and perfectly playable before it ever broke. He wouldn't even hear me out.

If I'm not mistaken I don't think the warranty stands unless you get the neck with a finish that they apply before shipping.

That's what I thought too but I don't see how that would affect the truss rod. Sucks that it broke.

Fortunately, I've been able to recover the guitar because I can still do all the adjustment from the heel. It just makes things a lot more complicated because you have to remove the neck, put on strings, remove the neck, put back on the strings, etc... before you finally get the tension right - with that gauge of strings. If you change string gauge, you have to repeat the process.

Normally, you make the big adjustments with the heel. The side adjust is only for finer adjustment. However, the side adjust saves you from having to remove the strings and neck to get it just right.

As far as I know, I can replace the adjustment nut, but there are two problems. The first would be that I have to find a drill bit long and skinny enough to pierce the broken threaded piece so I can remove it, or some other technique. Second, I can't find where to buy the nut or even the Gotoh side adjust mechanism anywhere. It's not even on Gotoh's website. It must be a Warmoth exclusive or something.

In any case, it's restored, but without the side adjust. It doesn't really matter because as long as I don't change the string gauge, I won't have to adjust the truss rod for years. I can simply insert a maple dowel where the nut goes and done. For now, I'll see if I can find a nut somewhere before I go with a permanent solution.

I was playing it last night by the way. Oh man, it's so luxurious. The action isn't as low as it needs to be because I leveled and dressed the frets before the bolt snapped. It immediately bowed the neck, so that kind of threw the leveling off. I have to go back and tap the frets with a fret hammer to make sure they didn't get loosened, then level and dress the frets again before I can get the action perfect like before. However, since I just put new strings on it, I'll just play it as-is for now.

So yeah, you are in fact listing a guitar with a broken truss rod. Sure it still works but not as intended and with a little extra work it seems. Honestly wouldn't be a big deal if the price was right but the facts that someone called you out on it, you have already admitted in other threads something is wrong with the guitar but now are denying that fact and just talking shit to everyone proves you are a fuck.

THERE ARE NO TRUSS ROD ISSUES. The TRUSS ROD IS PERFECTLY FINE. I GUARANTEE IT. I OFFERED TO HAVE IT EVALUATED BY ANYONE ON THE FORUM OR A PROFESSIONAL TECH. I said that over and over again. Just because you dumbasses keep saying it doesn't make it true. Hey dummy, let me dumb this down for you - there is absolutely nothing wrong with the guitar. I will prove that to anyone. There are not truss rod issues. The truss rod functions 100% perfectly. There is no side adjust mechanism - and as stated in my trade thread - there is only a heel adjust. There is nothing more to it. All the bullshit you dumb motherfuckers are making up all by yourselves. You're on a witch hunt and you're making fools of yourselves and destroying your own credibility by doing so. I guarantee 100% that the guitar is 100% functional in every aspect.

You and the idiot Scottosan over here are trying to say that because the side adjust mechanism isn't included that somehow there's something wrong with the guitar. PROVE IT... P R O V E I T! I WELCOME ANYONE TO INSPECT IT. You are both liars and despicable trolls. Hey dummy, if a guitar is missing a string does that make it a faulty guitar? Of course not, and you both know this, but you're trying to make bullshit out of something that's not there. You are pathetic.

You are all talk. You have zero credibility. Thanks for vindicating me and showing everyone that I'm not the asshole around here.

you miss the point entirely. No one is saying the truss rod doesn’t work. The point is that the side adjust option is broken. We get that the her adjust is still their. No one is debating that. This is not about if the neck can still be adjust. It’s about being honest and disclosing if options or parts that are part of the guitar not longer work. Your name calling and aggression have done nothing to acknowledge or address that an installed part on a guitar that is being sold no longer works.

Now that we established that, does the side adjust work?

Yeah he did say the truss rod is broken and I quoted it dumbass. Why the fuck do you keep asking about a side adjust? THERE IS NO FUCKING SIDE ADJUST - ONLY A HEEL ADJUST. What the fuck is it going to take to make you understand such a simple concept? The truss rod can only be adjusted from the heel. The truss rod is 100% functional. The neck is straight. The guitar is 100% functional. ANYONE IS WELCOME TO PROVE THAT WRONG. Now this is the last time I'm going to tell you. I'm done with you and your pathetic thread.

... Oh yeah, and don't go taking partial quotes out of context. The truss rod did not break. Someone else said that, not me. You are really, really, dumb.

 

[rottingcorpse]

Thanks for vindicating me and showing everyone that I'm not the asshole around here.

Quite possibly the funniest thing I have read on this forum. Ever.

People that resort to name calling and vicious rants when questioned are the epitome of the word "asshole". Seems with your self-described high intelligence you would understand this,and maybe take a step back and reevaluate the situation.

Instead,I am sure you will now start to mock me next for "sticking my nose where it doesn't belong". But guess what? It's an internet forum,and we are allowed to call it like we see it. C'mon,tough guy. Tell me how stupid I am and how you would like to kick my ass on a golf course.

Relax,Francis.

 

[scottosan]

Is this not your guitar and the same one listed for sale? Is that a Warmoth modern neck with a side adjust? This was the guitar build you ranted about Warmoths support, right? So did the truss break or not? Was is the side adjust that doesn’t exist broke? Did you make up a story to bash Warmoth?

If you put in a fraction of effort to explain a legitimate question instead of making it rain victim cards, then it might actually be more clear. So please explain. You have the floor.

So what does this mean?

It's fixed!!! Not the nut, but after posting yesterday, I was determined to set the guitar up. So I went through the whole dog and pony show once more to get it all leveled out. Now it's one of my best playing guitars. If I can't find a replacement nut, then I'm just going to put a maple dowel in there.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Is this not your guitar and the same one listed for sale? Is that a Warmoth modern neck with a side adjust? This was the guitar build you ranted about Warmoths support, right? So did the truss break or not? Was is the side adjust that doesn’t exist broke? Did you make up a story to bash Warmoth?

If you put in a fraction of effort to explain a legitimate question instead of making it rain victim cards, then it might actually be more clear. So please explain. You have the floor.

You weren't a legitimate buyer. You didn't have a legitimate question. You asked about the side adjust. It clearly stated there was no side adjust. Therefore, you didn't have a legitimate question. You were just a little troll who caught wind from some newb idiot trolling my thread, so you tried to call me out on it and got called out yourself, then you got butthurt and promised to run away after posting this dumbass, senseless thread. You are so desperate to try and accuse me of something and you have no conscience whatsoever if you lie through your teeth. I don't know, maybe you accomplished what you set out to accomplish. Maybe you gained an alliance with a couple of other forum trolls and now you feel emboldened. Maybe you're a coward and instead of being a man and doing as you say, you'll stick around because you've forged newfound relationships with other trolls. Hmm, I don't know and I don't give a fucking rat's ass about you or your stupid sick little crusade. In the end, you're just a talker who didn't have the balls to back up what you say. My offer is still open, but I have a feeling you're just going to talk, and talk, and talk, and talk... because that's all you can do. You are pathetic, weak, vindictive, and mendacious.

 

[maddnotez]

Is this not your guitar and the same one listed for sale? Is that a Warmoth modern neck with a side adjust? This was the guitar build you ranted about Warmoths support, right? So did the truss break or not? Was is the side adjust that doesn’t exist broke? Did you make up a story to bash Warmoth?

If you put in a fraction of effort to explain a legitimate question instead of making it rain victim cards, then it might actually be more clear. So please explain. You have the floor.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Guitar Tech Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret runs on Wired Guitarist, and I have over 300 confirmed sales on Rig-Talk. I am trained in truss rod adjustments and I’m the top soloist in the entire US guitar club. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in the Harmonic Minor, but I have access to the entire arsenal of YouTube and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

 

[SavageRiffer]

Is this not your guitar and the same one listed for sale? Is that a Warmoth modern neck with a side adjust? This was the guitar build you ranted about Warmoths support, right? So did the truss break or not? Was is the side adjust that doesn’t exist broke? Did you make up a story to bash Warmoth?

If you put in a fraction of effort to explain a legitimate question instead of making it rain victim cards, then it might actually be more clear. So please explain. You have the floor.

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Guitar Tech Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret runs on Wired Guitarist, and I have over 300 confirmed sales on Rig-Talk. I am trained in truss rod adjustments and I’m the top soloist in the entire US guitar club. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in the Harmonic Minor, but I have access to the entire arsenal of YouTube and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

OK. I'm in Houston. You can come and use your expertise to check the guitar out any time you like. I have nothing to hide.

 

[milkchickenbomb]

From the pic, it looks like there is a side adjust to me. Is it not functional? If it’s not functional, but it’s supposed to be functional, how is that not a truss rod issue?

 

[Whowantsamustache]

Peace out. Please take Your SJW friend crazyfuxnutz with you.

 

[marshall2553]

here is the pic of the side trust that it doesn’t have

It clearly stated there was no side adjust.

I don't have a dog in this fight, but as I buyer I think there should be a distinction between an item not having a feature and an item that has a feature that is not in working condition. I don't necessarily think the description in the classified ad is deceptive since it does say "heel adjustment only", but I would definitely expect the seller to disclose that the side adjustment nut is broken. If I bought that guitar and didn't see the other thread or didn't notice the side adjust in the pic I'd be pissed.

 

[xzacx]

Maybe I just missed it with all the caps locks and yelling, but I don't recall anyone saying there are truss rod issues other than the side adjustment not working. "Heel adjustment only" kind of downplays the fact that the side adjustment broke. I don't think it makes you a dishonest seller necessarily, but it doesn't paint the full picture either. I think it's a little nit-picky to call you out for. At the same time though, you probably should have mentioned it specifically IMO. It wouldn't stop be from buying something from you in the future though. What would stop me is the way you react to things and the way drama seems to follow you around. I don't say that to be rude or pick a fight, but to point out why people made a bigger deal about this than was necessary. It's great that you have a history of honest and up-front transactions, but a lot of people here know you for something else. Part of being a reputable seller is conducting yourself in a professional manner even when you're "off the clock," because that reflects on you too.

Again, I don't say any of this as an attack, and I know unsolicited advice isn't always appreciated, but some of this - fairly or not - you've brought upon yourself. You're clearly knowledgeable as well as a good player - you definitely bring more to the board than some of the people antagonizing you. But you've made yourself an easy target, and that's not going to change until you do.

 

[paulyc]

OMFG my head hurts...these threads are so stupid...there IS an ignore function on here

 

[thiswaythatway]

Yeah, savageriffer is a cunt. Thought that was common knowledge. Ignore list and be done with the vermin.

 

[errrrrl]

I agree with the mods. Though he's attacked me to the point that I've said something, I also took responsibility of my own taking part in it. It's gotten to the point where it's just gotten silly.

I've noticed a change in his demeanor of late, and it seems as if he's ignoring the drama as well.

On a personal note to SR, he seems like a stand up guy and extremely knowledgeable . I think some of these children here need to stay over at the Guitar Amp Board, where immaturity runs rampant, and seems to be a prerequisite. Some just can't let go of the Harmony Central mentality, and the illusion that it's "cool" to treat one another with disrespect. As sad as it sounds, I've been spending the majority of my time at TGP of late. Yeah, some of it is not my cup of tea, but the arguing, disrespect, and immaturity is kept to a minimum, and there's some good people there.

Again, I'm not claiming to be a saint, but at some point you become a product of your environment. Going forward, I hope to contribute more to being a solution, rather than the problem. I think deep down, that's SR's goal, but there's a handful here that aren't happy unless they're stirring the kool aid. Leave the fucking guy alone, plain and simple. Enough is enough.

I agree, sometimes it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. SR makes a post or replies to a post, followed by fake troll account A or B purposely poking at SR til he goes from David Banner to the Hulk then it's a shit storm... days later rinse repeat. And yeah right when you think SR may not take the bait this time, 7 times out of 10 he does and gets nuts with the name calling etc. I grabbed popcorn and chuckled a little a the first few times but it's now getting old. And I agree SR had made noticeable changes for the better but there are those out there that seem relentless on fucking with the guy.

Also scottosan I too enjoy your post, sad to see you go. Best of luck dude.

 

[Viper]

Hey mods, get the hint and do your job. Ban Savageriffer. If you don't, you're unfit to run a board.

 

[maddnotez]

Guy goes nuts, name calling every time someone on the internet doesn't agree with him.

Goes from Banner to Hulk constantly.

Posts he's pissed about his broken "side adjust" then fails to mention it in the Classifieds and gets called out on it only to repeat the going nuts and name calling.

GTFO with that victim stuff.

 

[scottosan]

Peace out. Please take Your SJW friend crazyfuxnutz with you.

So while I attack actions of SR, there is a difference between being critical of actions and playing taking it personal. I just don’t get why people
Can disagree on anything without the uneccessary person name calling. How does my issue with a single person on here make me a SJW?

 

[shred-o-holic]

I don't post on here enough to get pissed about much of anything these days. I used to despise a lot of people on HCAF back in the day. I guess I got a life or something and stopped with a lot of the posting. That said I remember Scott way back when we both owned Triple X's lol. I thought he was pretty cool back in the day. Don't leave dude or well if you're done I guess I can't blame ya