Tone Monster
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Posted my thoughts vs the VH4 about halfway down page one.
Posted my thoughts vs the VH4 about halfway down page one.
angelspade
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Tone Monster":3qokh3vt said:
Just read that post...Greatly appreciated. Is the Hagen capable of getting near HERBERT territory in regards to that massively overstated low end girth that the Herbert is known for? The reason I ask is that the clips seem to indicated that the Hagen is slighly thicker and rounder sounding than the VH4, but not as BIG overall as the Herbert...Correct?
It may just be the increase in saturation that I am hering with the Hagen?
Thanks for your thought and opinions.
Tone Monster
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angelspade":2fz8l6oj said:
I owned a Herbert for a few months and it just wasn't for me. The Hagen's lowend is HUGE with the bass a depth knobs at noon....
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Zupfgeige
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Hi Paolo! I am a Diezel guy (Schmidt+2x12 Hemcone) and I am very satisfied !
If you want to spend not so much money and you manly need only one good sound go for the Peavey 5150 or 6550!
For the music you play its not the worst. I have owned 2 of them and the tone is aggressive and main in a band.
I think there is a reason why you find so much Peaveys on stages and studios. Cheap but one very good metall
or hardrocksound! On stage I saw Steve Morse,Steve Stevens,EVH and many Hardcorebands playing wihth them!
They can not be so wrong....and they could use expencive amps. The Peavey has one very special sound which most
of the guitarists love.
If you can spend more money, remember for a Herbert or a Hagen you will need 3T and more Euros and you need more sounds and more quality I would
go for a Hagen if you need 4 Channels (I think the 4.Channel is too much) or the Herbert with 3 channels.
With this amps you have more different sounds and a good clean sound.
I would go for the Hagen because its based on the very popular VH4 (in most every studio in the USA)
and the Hagen is the newest baby from Peter Diezel and they have built it not at last for dountuning modern sounds.
The whole experience from P.Diezel is in it believe me.
You cant go wrong.... have a look to the video Messe Ffm 2011 Peter Stapfer from Diezel is playing.
Like said before... for me the Schmidt is the right amp. I play in a Rockcoverband with tuning dis.
It works perfect and I have a warm musically tone.
Remember ... an amp is like your guitar an instrument and its all about feeling home on it.
Bye
Rolf
If you want to spend not so much money and you manly need only one good sound go for the Peavey 5150 or 6550!
For the music you play its not the worst. I have owned 2 of them and the tone is aggressive and main in a band.
I think there is a reason why you find so much Peaveys on stages and studios. Cheap but one very good metall
or hardrocksound! On stage I saw Steve Morse,Steve Stevens,EVH and many Hardcorebands playing wihth them!
They can not be so wrong....and they could use expencive amps. The Peavey has one very special sound which most
of the guitarists love.
If you can spend more money, remember for a Herbert or a Hagen you will need 3T and more Euros and you need more sounds and more quality I would
go for a Hagen if you need 4 Channels (I think the 4.Channel is too much) or the Herbert with 3 channels.
With this amps you have more different sounds and a good clean sound.
I would go for the Hagen because its based on the very popular VH4 (in most every studio in the USA)
and the Hagen is the newest baby from Peter Diezel and they have built it not at last for dountuning modern sounds.
The whole experience from P.Diezel is in it believe me.
You cant go wrong.... have a look to the video Messe Ffm 2011 Peter Stapfer from Diezel is playing.
Like said before... for me the Schmidt is the right amp. I play in a Rockcoverband with tuning dis.
It works perfect and I have a warm musically tone.
Remember ... an amp is like your guitar an instrument and its all about feeling home on it.
Bye
Rolf
SynFactory
New member
Guys thanks for the advice. I'm planning to try them in the next couple of weeks. I found a store here in Italy that also have the Hagen, so it will be a good day.
Rolf thanks for your help, yes I know the Peavey. I think that it's the best one in that price range.
But here in Europe they cost almost 3 times than the ones in U.S.
I tried the 6534 (that is basically based on the 6505 + the EL34 tubes in the power amp) and it is an amazing amp. But as I said before, the other two guitarists in my bands have the 5150 and the 6505+ so I have to differentiate from them.
Based on samples, opinions, reviews and videos I think that I will be more headed toward the Einstein and the Hagen.
Rezamatix, your Hagen video is fantastic. The 3rd and 4th channel are outstanding.
It's only a money thing at this point.
I have to try it out and see if I can justify the 1000 and plus more euro between the heads.
Not that they are not worth it, absolutely, but If the features and sound differences are what I really need.
Now I only have to organize my "amp" trip
Rolf thanks for your help, yes I know the Peavey. I think that it's the best one in that price range.
But here in Europe they cost almost 3 times than the ones in U.S.
I tried the 6534 (that is basically based on the 6505 + the EL34 tubes in the power amp) and it is an amazing amp. But as I said before, the other two guitarists in my bands have the 5150 and the 6505+ so I have to differentiate from them.
Based on samples, opinions, reviews and videos I think that I will be more headed toward the Einstein and the Hagen.
Rezamatix, your Hagen video is fantastic. The 3rd and 4th channel are outstanding.
It's only a money thing at this point.
I have to try it out and see if I can justify the 1000 and plus more euro between the heads.
Not that they are not worth it, absolutely, but If the features and sound differences are what I really need.
Now I only have to organize my "amp" trip
King Crimson
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SynFactory":1l5mz263 said:
mightywarlock
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Id say VH4, and also try the Hagen.
But my VH4 is different than most.
I had a Herbert for awhile but for me the feel and tightness was more my style on the VH4.
But my VH4 is different than most.
I had a Herbert for awhile but for me the feel and tightness was more my style on the VH4.
