Choosing a Diezel....

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MontiCristo said:
Big Max was $2100. I've been Talking with Rick at Wizard and a 50 watt MCii is $6000 = $4000 more.
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Guy on here was selling my old 100w Rock Standard for $3000 - so yeah, if you're comparing used/discounted amp prices to your first time buying from Rick...
 
WizardSouth-JP said:
Guy on here was selling my old 100w Rock Standard for $3000 - so yeah, if you're comparing used/discounted amp prices to your first time buying from Rick...
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The Wizard is better, I was just saying the Big Max is a good single channel amp. I bought the Big Max for $2100 brand new and the Wizard brand new is $6k so I think everyone can agree the Wizard is much more expensive and should sound better.
 
MontiCristo said:
The Wizard is better, I was just saying the Big Max is a good single channel amp. I bought the Big Max for $2100 brand new and the Wizard brand new is $6k so I think everyone can agree the Wizard is much more expensive and should sound better.
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price paid doesn't always equate to better - plenty of amps I've had that were expensive were often overhyped. My point was the Rock Standard as a single channel british style amp (like the Big Max) was leaps and bounds a "better" sounding amp side by side - as I had them in the room, same guitar etc.
 
WizardSouth-JP said:
price paid doesn't always equate to better - plenty of amps I've had that were expensive were often overhyped. My point was the Rock Standard as a single channel british style amp (like the Big Max) was leaps and bounds a "better" sounding amp side by side - as I had them in the room, same guitar etc.
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So is your position that the Diezel Big Max is not a good single channel amplifier? That's all I was saying brother. All Good.
 
MontiCristo said:
So is your position that the Diezel Big Max is not a good single channel amplifier? That's all I was saying brother. All Good.
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Think we're saying the same thing just differently - is the Big Max a cool single channel amp? sure
 
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teestone said:
Virgin post here on Rig-Talk....

I'm a long time member of TGP...don't throw anything at me please.

Anyway....

For the last 15 years I've rocked a Rivera S-120 combo as stereo pedal platform. I briefly went down the Fractal rabbit hole but emerged without harm. I recently got tapped to back up a buddy in his hard rock/metal cover band. I tried a Sherlock V3 in front of the Rivera but it just doesn't hold up. It's time to get a half stack! I've since looked into a bunch of different options....Mesa, Bogner, Fryette/VHT, KSR...a few others. Not that those aren't great amps....but I kinda want to go with a Diezel. I've lusted for one for many years but never had the reason to pursue one.

There seems to be a large group of people over here that use Diezel amps. I've been lurking around and trying to educate myself on Diezel amps. There's lots of choices.

I'm looking hard at the Herbert currently. The D-Moll also is intriguing as it's touted as Herbie's little brother. I think the VH4 is more than I need and takes bit more volume to really shine. Most, if not all Diezel's have a great Master Volume from what I've read. This will help keep reasonable volume during practice. Even the Paul looks interesting as the 50W platform has it's benefits. I'm not really familiar with some of the older models...Schmidt, Einstein. Hagen is another I'm not familiar with.

I'd love to say price isn't an issue but it is. Looks like a mk1 or maybe mk2 Herbert can be had for sub $2k. Same with the D-Moll, Paul, Schmidt and Einstein. A mk3 Herbert is up closer to $4k.

So a rear loaded 4x12 and a head for sub $3k is a pretty handsome option.

What should I know about the various iterations of the Herbert?

Should I be considering the Schmidt or Einstein? D-Moll or Paul?

Cleans are important. Crunch and lead a little more important. MIDI switching isn't required. Solid effects loop for time based effects and modulation is important. Usable volume from practice space to stage use is important.

Diezel experts....what say you?
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A stereo VH4 seems like the logical choice.
 
Vin Diezel said:
In which regard is the wizard better than the Big Max?
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He is talking about the Wizard Rock Standard, which I also own.

More punch, more clarity. Wizards have this over most amps, one of their hallmarks.
Better feel (to me.....the RS feels like a hot plexi, which I prefer!)
And waaaay more ways to sculpt your tone.
 
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