Exo-metal
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If the content is good, (like this) the thread is never long enough...
Shask
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I just wonder what would cause phasing if put in a parallel loop if it is all analog.
This is exactly why I say the 2290p pedal is not analog dry through. If I put it through a parallel mixer, I get phasing comb filtering.
mentoneman
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love Bruce’s work on the TOL stuff. it was truly my Tone of Life destiny moment when i got to play through his creations. i even had a cosmic connection to his choice of attire!
i had the TOL 100 head, the TOL 50 combo, and my friend’s 100 combo in this shot
dropped the head off with dave who modded channel 2 for me and turned it around in an hour!
i always struggled with what to do with Ch 2 by itself and used it as a semi clean pedal platform until Dave did a gain mod to it. IE4 Ch 2 still challenges me because i’m not a fan of the type of fender tweed breakup built into it, but if i set it as an alternate clean to Ch 1 and use it as a pedal pletform, it works for me. the gain and tone controls are very touchy.
mentoneman
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the essence of this thread is about the wide variety of customized tones (highly inspired by Mike Landau in this and most of my cases
) a thoughtfully set up rack can deliver, being able to fine tune fx presets to enhance the core sound of your guitar and amp/preamp, and effectively switch instantly between angels and fire
mentoneman
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here is a guy who currently absolutely crushes the 80s-90s grail era rack tones game—HRI’s beloved Marsa keeping the flame alive and blazing (and rocking a UA Lion for the dirt!
in his relentless pursuit of perfection, here’s a link documenting one of the greatest tribute to Landau rack building journeys you’ll ever read on the web!
https://hugeracksinc.com/the-end-is-near-the-tale-of-my-final-rig-done/
in his relentless pursuit of perfection, here’s a link documenting one of the greatest tribute to Landau rack building journeys you’ll ever read on the web!
https://hugeracksinc.com/the-end-is-near-the-tale-of-my-final-rig-done/
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tonedog
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YES!!! Love Bruce and his work. The TOS modded TOL's were awesome. One of the best live tones I ever had an outdoor gig was with the TOL100. Was right near the beginning of the boutique rabbit hole for me.
mentoneman
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while i was at Bob’s shop picking up Zach’s rig i asked him about how he tracks down phase issues between devices in the rigs he assembles.
he slowly leaned forward and tapped his ears with a grin.
Bob could write an entire book on the phase, power, impedance and grounding issues and solutions when building rigs. it’s one of the biggest assets about having a guy like him
assemble your rig, yet the least talked about.
from a GP article in ‘85
one thing i will say is that having a dry mute switch in my wdw rig is very helpful in tracking down pesky and unwanted digitized dry signal leaking through fx units while programming short delays and choruses between devices. i find zero doesn’t always mean zero and the multiple personalities of internal bypass functions vary wildly from fx unit to unit.
can be both indispensable and your worst enemy in the pursuit of editing and combining fx units.
mentoneman
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leave it to sniderman to tell the masters how to make things better!
wish i could’ve heard all the custom boggys and two rocks you were a part of over the years! Stud!
Code001
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Bruce is like 30 min from me. Amazing guy, and he's been insanely gracious with sharing his knowledge on amps. Warning, though. He's very slow with getting work done these days.
mentoneman
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he has always been so cool and kind to me
i remember walking into Lab Sound/Mesa Boogie Fountain Valley in socal back in the early 90s and seeing and hearing Shawn Tubbs rack which was meticulously built by Brian Swerdfeger. the back of the rack was a jaw dropping work of mogami wiring art.
amidst a vtwin rack preamp and matchless head on top was an IE4 and that rig sounded soooo good and the best i’d heard in person at thst time.
then i went to the baked potato and even though i missed seeing Mike’s big rig by then, his tones were still supreme using the burning water hybrid rig.
although i think this was his home studio rack, wish i had seen him rock this dual 42 loaded sweetie live before he sold it off to John Shanks
mentoneman
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man this place was the tone dream factory back in the heyday.
who else remembers hanging out there?
who else remembers hanging out there?
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GuitarVacation
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It’s funny seeing our rack heroes like Landau and Huff using pedalboards now. Heck those guys are so good, they’re going to sound awesome regardless. But it is a little bittersweet if you’re into rack stuff.
I spent my young gigging years playing a Mark IV combo, which actually was never really the amp for me. I still have it, but it’s down, and I don’t have much incentive to spend the money to get it serviced and up and running.
I missed out on the rack heyday, but racks are really intriguing and cool to me. I actually bought a rack and built a budget rack rig. It was really fun, learned how to use midi, and it sounded great at home. Cheap class D power amp really showed its limitations when I jammed with buddies running tube amps (pretty basic tube amps too lol).
I’m backed to using my tube amps and pedals, but I still have the empty rack. This thread really has me thinking of getting one of the newer Fryette power amps that are space friendly, and pairing it up with a cool tube preamp. I don’t get super fancy with delay/verb/mod, would probably go with a Fractal vp4 and call it a day.
A syn2 would be a natural option since I’ve already been in the Synergy ecosystem for a long time. Since it’s a labor of love not need, however, I really want to just get a bad ass tube preamp. Heck, rack is making a little comeback, and there are a lot of tube preamp pedals out there nowadays. I’m not opposed to getting a schematic and getting a clone of something built either, especially if it quality for an affordable build.
I saw some Rocktron IE4’s on reverb for around $1,500. Are those decent or “less than” versions?
I spent my young gigging years playing a Mark IV combo, which actually was never really the amp for me. I still have it, but it’s down, and I don’t have much incentive to spend the money to get it serviced and up and running.
I missed out on the rack heyday, but racks are really intriguing and cool to me. I actually bought a rack and built a budget rack rig. It was really fun, learned how to use midi, and it sounded great at home. Cheap class D power amp really showed its limitations when I jammed with buddies running tube amps (pretty basic tube amps too lol).
I’m backed to using my tube amps and pedals, but I still have the empty rack. This thread really has me thinking of getting one of the newer Fryette power amps that are space friendly, and pairing it up with a cool tube preamp. I don’t get super fancy with delay/verb/mod, would probably go with a Fractal vp4 and call it a day.
A syn2 would be a natural option since I’ve already been in the Synergy ecosystem for a long time. Since it’s a labor of love not need, however, I really want to just get a bad ass tube preamp. Heck, rack is making a little comeback, and there are a lot of tube preamp pedals out there nowadays. I’m not opposed to getting a schematic and getting a clone of something built either, especially if it quality for an affordable build.
I saw some Rocktron IE4’s on reverb for around $1,500. Are those decent or “less than” versions?
mentoneman
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never had a chance to A/B og IE4 v rocktron version. Bruce said the only differences were the tapers of the pots but other corners could have been cut.
for that coin i’d pass on the rocktron. pay a bit more and look at X88ir or Red Seven if trying to branch out from Synland
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