Condolences to Stralia and all affected.

LET THOSE AUSSIE POOFTER TEARS FLOW! What a fucking faggot! Did your bandmate lover write this for you? No picture has been posted you poofter.........yet. :ROFLMAO:

And it won’t be either, because this forum is all you’ve got, isn’t it?

I mean if you got the arse from here you’d have to go back to wearing your mum’s clothes, or yelling at gay blokes from a passing car, or sniffing bus seats, or whatever you do for fun.
 
And it won’t be either, because this forum is all you’ve got, isn’t it?

I mean if you got the arse from here you’d have to go back to wearing your mum’s clothes, or yelling at gay blokes from a passing car, or sniffing bus seats, or whatever you do for fun.
NOW you get it.👍
 
Back on topic..."Gun Laws"

I'm always talking about hypocrisy and how deceitful and underhanded governments can be.

If Australia (or any country) was honestly serious about gun control, all munitions factories & stores would be closed, no imports of firearms whatsoever and if caught 25yrs in jail with no right of appeal or obtaining a reduced sentence. Police also have no firearms because they too have no right to have them if their paying employer citizens are not allowed to have them. Ironically most gun deaths in these countries are by the police themselves.

This is very basic and again, if you're 'honestly' serious these would be the first measures you would put in place.

Until then, citizens should not yield under any circumstances.
 
Right.

America, loose guns laws = high death tolls
Australia, tight gun laws = high death tolls

🥴

Go read the data.
1. You are missing my point.
The more "gun control" the US adopts, the higher the death tolls have become. Two mass shootings in one calendar year is not "high death tolls" by any means. It's cute that you think that though.
2. "Data" can be represented in different ways. No offense but given your attitude regarding this subject, i would not trust your data.
 
Very true, and I can’t argue with your point.

The data shows for the USA that there’s a huge swing towards gun violence in the black/African American population, but you don’t have to look far to also see higher proportions of generational poverty, drug use and abuse and resultant crime, broken families, lack of education and incarceration rates in that community too.

It’s a safe assumption then that gun crime is linked to lower socio economic indicators, which would involve resetting those systemic inequalities so that community can help themselves.
That's not entirely true and is a false link. Or at least socio economic factors are not the root cause and just the symptoms.

The direct link to crime is lack of a father figure which is tied to how a given culture views fatherhood. This is your root cause and is independent of race and other factors.

Stricter gun laws do nothing to address the root cause and just remove more rights from law abiding citizens. They're nothing more than feel good "solutions" that completely avoid addressing the larger issue. It's like watering the plants when the house is on fire.

You seldom see though, mass shootings being carried out by black perpetrators.

Increasingly those are mentally ill young white men, ostracised by the mainstream or religious extremists.

I do agree there is a mental illness problem, but don't agree increases are limited to young white men. The media may portray it as such, but that doesn't make it true. Facts show if you take all types of mental illness into account, percentage of demographic wise, it's split evenly with race. There's some disproportion by individual mental illness, but overall pretty even. Gender on the other hand... Women are more likely to have a mental illness than men. So trying to say it's white men who are more/increasingly mentally ill fails on both counts.

On mass shootings there's way too much manipulation of statistics to make any claims.

First there's been a low number of what has been officially classified as a mass shooting overall; something like 150 since 1980 in the US.

Second, there's no single definition of a mass shooting. What constitutes a mass shooting? What factors are included/excluded? What's the minimum threshold for number of victims/injured? Are multiple victim homicides included? Are "terror attacks" classified as mass shootings?

You get the point... No clear definition so almost anything can be classified as a mass shooting which renders any statistic useless.

I fucking hate that everyone can’t be trusted with a firearm, but the sad fact is that mental illness is the last thing which the governments of your country or mine throw money, time or long term solutions and resources at to fix.

Agreed. Don't know about Australia, but in the US mental illness is being indulged not treated.
 
Grow up, stop using memes like a child and quote data.

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Mate if you can’t see that gun restrictions clearly do drive down gun death statistics, then I don’t know what to tell you.

Like I said to the other guy, I’m pro gun.
But I’m even more pro society, and in a society, people cannot be trusted.

Ergo, we cannot trust people not to be mentally deranged in Australia, hence we restrict guns.

In America, the rights of the individual are deemed more valuable and worth more money to the gun industry than the value of innocent people’s lives.
Hence why things are the way they are in America.
Not sure if you have ever been to the US, but you are dead wrong about pretty much all of this.
I don't pretend to know what it's like to live in another country, but most every person from another country thinks they know exactly what it's like to live in the US. It's pretty ironic.
 
It’s funny the same people who claim almost all mass shootings are perpetrated by people with legally owned guns, then turn around and quote things like 200 mass shootings in the US so far this year. So apparently they want to include inner city and gang violence in the tally as long as it’s 3 or more people, but they conveniently ignore it when talking about what kinds of guns are used. Unless you believe all those bangers are buying their guns legally.

The mass shootings that the media beams into your brain relentlessly day after day kill so few people that it’s statistically insignificant. Literally more people choke to death on garlic bologna sandwiches.

In the history of the US, not counting government actions or warfare, there have been less than 500 people killed total in “ mass shootings”.

The left and the media bombard the news cycle with that shit while conveniently ignoring the 20 people shot to death by hood rats every weekend in Chicago.
 
It’s funny the same people who claim almost all mass shootings are perpetrated by people with legally owned guns, then turn around and quote things like 200 mass shootings in the US so far this year. So apparently they want to include inner city and gang violence in the tally as long as it’s 3 or more people, but they conveniently ignore it when talking about what kinds of guns are used. Unless you believe all those bangers are buying their guns legally.
Don't forget all accidents, suicides, and criminals shot in self-defense. Those are lumped in too.
 
Not sure if you have ever been to the US, but you are dead wrong about pretty much all of this.
I don't pretend to know what it's like to live in another country, but most every person from another country thinks they know exactly what it's like to live in the US. It's pretty ironic.
That’s exactly the problem I’ve always had with this pole smoker. He comes in here acting all morally superior while trashing the United States, President, culture, etc. He’s a poofter, nothing else. BTW, would you like to see the picture? :ROFLMAO:
 
That’s exactly the problem I’ve always had with this pole smoker. He comes in here acting all morally superior while trashing the United States, President, culture, etc. He’s a poofter, nothing else. BTW, would you like to see the picture? :ROFLMAO:
"BTW, would you like to see the picture?"

You idiot! 🤣
 
Don't forget all accidents, suicides, and criminals shot in self-defense. Those are lumped in too.
2/3 of gun deaths are suicides.

Anyone who believes politicians who make claims that we need gun control for public safety is full on retarded. If they cared about public safety they wouldn’t de-fund the police or support no cash bail and woke prosecutors. Guns are a convenient scapegoat to draw attention away from their disastrous policies. And all politicians from any party ultimately prefer an unarmed citizenry.
 
2/3 of gun deaths are suicides.

Anyone who believes politicians who make claims that we need gun control for public safety is full on retarded. If they cared about public safety they wouldn’t de-fund the police or support no cash bail and woke prosecutors. Guns are a convenient scapegoat to draw attention away from their disastrous policies. And all politicians from any party ultimately prefer an unarmed citizenry.
Current corrupt NWO politicians thrive on gun laws. I guarantee the politicians in office at the beginning of WWII were thankful we were an armed nation.
 
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