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"Fighting while armed" even if you're fighting cops, is not sufficient cause for murdering someone in the street you absolute piece of shit.
"Fighting while armed" even if you're fighting cops, is not sufficient cause for murdering someone in the street you absolute piece of shit.
I agree to disagree. That's an assumption.Think of it this way. Two armed civilians. One gets shot, the other never pulls his weapon.
A cop and a civilian. Both armed. Civilian gets shot even though he never pulls his weapon.
Two different outcomes to be sure.
Fair enough. But it’s not an uneducated assumption.I agree to disagree. That's an assumption.
I'd be interested in a case you know from which you have formed your opinions.I agree with this.
Do you really need me to google and list the many incidents of cops shooting unarmed civilians and not being charged with murder ? Come on dude.
Well, no. You don't type with a Canadian accent so it's certainly not uneducated.Fair enough. But it’s not an uneducated assumption.
I have a feeling this will be the case as well. At least on the agency/federal level. Who knows what the Minnesota DA is going to try to pull.I’m going to predict the officers face no charges. It appears to me that the officer standard has been satisfied. Particularly in light of the felonious behavior of the nurse and the fact that he has a history of the same felonious behavior and decided to escalate it this time by being armed.
What was he doing?Yeah I guess that could have been a silly thing to say, specifically because Alex Pretti wasn't "fighting."
It's called sympathetic trigger pull. It's been going on since man has been with firearms.I have a feeling this will be the case as well. At least on the agency/federal level. Who knows what the Minnesota DA is going to try to pull.
And if the one agent did fire 10 times, yeah that is (in hindsight) a bit excessive. Not trying to make an excuse for it, but in the heat of the moment and adrenaline pumping 10 trigger pulls could feel like a quick double tap.
Picking up a pizza, apparently. I wonder if it had Canadian bacon on it?What was he doing?
Thanks, I couldn't remember the term for it.It's called sympathetic trigger pull. It's been going on since man has been with firearms.
To me it seems like total lack of experience. Or just incompatibility with the job. There’s a mental attitude you have to have to be able to keep your head in a situation where your life is in danger.I have a feeling this will be the case as well. At least on the agency/federal level. Who knows what the Minnesota DA is going to try to pull.
And if the one agent did fire 10 times, yeah that is (in hindsight) a bit excessive. Not trying to make an excuse for it, but in the heat of the moment and adrenaline pumping 10 trigger pulls could feel like a quick double tap.
Maybe that explains all the times when cops dump something like 80 rounds at a suspect. Often missing completely. Lol.It's called sympathetic trigger pull. It's been going on since man has been with firearms.
Could be. I don't know the level of training or experience these officers had.To me it seems like total lack of experience. Or just incompatibility with the job. There’s a mental attitude you have to have to be able to keep your head in a situation where your life is in danger.
That’s a fact.Could be. I don't know the level of training or experience these officers had.
I will say this, when you are faced with a threatening mob multiple days in a row, having shit thrown at you etc. because these dumb fuckers think it's a game they can get paid for, fuses are going to shorten, stress is going to go through the roof and bad shit is going to happen.
What about his backup gun?Yeah I guess that could have been a silly thing to say, specifically because Alex Pretti wasn't "fighting."
Stress. And I've seen it. Shouldn't happen when training. The training is supposed to help eliminate that possibility.Maybe that explains all the times when cops dump something like 80 rounds at a suspect. Often missing completely. Lol.
That shit happens all the time. You should see some of the cops shooting on the range. Not all understand, but easily a third. Especially DEI hires.
Exactly. Force on force and realistic training while Adrenalin is spiked is as close as it gets without the real thing. Unfortunately it’s not enough for everyone. It’s a mindset. There are a lot of cops who aren’t interested in guns or training. They shoot once a year at quals and pray they never have to use a gun. There’s a lot of civilians carrying guns that will just get themselves killed, maybe be even by their own gun, because they think having a gun makes them safe. In reality they don’t have what it takes to calmly act with zero hesitation in a life or death situation.Stress. And I've seen it. Shouldn't happen when training. The training is supposed to help eliminate that possibility.
What about his backup gun?