Crazy Leftist Lesbollah Dyke Tried To Run-Over ICE Officers In MN

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Exactly. Force on force and realistic training while Adrenalin is spiked is as close as it gets without the real thing. Unfortunately it’s not enough for everyone. It’s a mindset. There are a lot of cops who aren’t interested in guns or training. They shoot once a year at quals and pray they never have to use a gun. There’s a lot of civilians carrying guns that will just get themselves killed, maybe be even by their own gun, because they think having a gun makes them safe. In reality they don’t have what it takes to calmly act with zero hesitation in a life or death situation.

Hence the axiom: You will not rise to the occasion, you will fall to the level of your training.
A lot of departments certainly don't elevate training when it comes to firearms. But it's not always from lack of wanting, it's often from budget problems and/or decisions by useless administrations. Often composed of DEI hires.
 
He didn't have a backup gun.

The next question in your line is "well how were the cops supposed to know that?"

The answer is "Oh so every cop can just shoot anybody they try to arrest because they MIGHT have a gun hidden on them somewhere? No, they cannot. That's not how the law works."

Your next reply will be "Of course not, you can't just assume everybody has as gun, but Alex had a gun removed from him so it's reasonable to assume he'd have another one."

My answer would be "No, it's not. Having one holstered gun doesn't guarantee you'll have another one. See my first theoretical response. A cop can't just shoot somebody because they think that person MIGHT have a gun on them."


Come on, it's like you're not even trying.
How do you know he didn't have a backup gun?
 
TheGreatGreenFlamingHomosexusl is a sympathizer to anything or anyone supporting illegal immigration, just like any other typical shitlib. You won’t convince him otherwise, there’s no point.

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He didn't have a backup gun.

The next question in your line is "well how were the cops supposed to know that?"

The answer is "Oh so every cop can just shoot anybody they try to arrest because they MIGHT have a gun hidden on them somewhere? No, they cannot. That's not how the law works."

Your next reply will be "Of course not, you can't just assume everybody has as gun, but Alex had a gun removed from him so it's reasonable to assume he'd have another one."

My answer would be "No, it's not. Having one holstered gun doesn't guarantee you'll have another one. See my first theoretical response. A cop can't just shoot somebody because they think that person MIGHT have a gun on them."


Come on, it's like you're not even trying.
He’s not trying ? Dude, in the last hour and a half there is a masterclass in use of force law you completely glossed over.

He committed several felonies. While armed. Period.
 
A lot of departments certainly don't elevate training when it comes to firearms. But it's not always from lack of wanting, it's often from budget problems and/or decisions by useless administrations. Often composed of DEI hires.
It is, but a captain I know breaks it down this way. The top third trains, even on their own dime, out of ambition to be good at their job. The middle third trains enough to be competent. The bottom third are given their job even though they aren’t competent.
 
He’s not trying ? Dude, in the last hour and a half there is a masterclass in use of force law you completely glossed over.

He committed several felonies. While armed. Period.
The creepy dude supported illegal immigration and was anti-ICE, that’s all that matters to shitlibs.
 
He’s not trying ? Dude, in the last hour and a half there is a masterclass in use of force law you completely glossed over.

He committed several felonies. While armed. Period.

I never said Alex didn't break the law. If he did, he should have been arrested.

I'm saying he shouldn't have been killed.
 
It is, but a captain I know breaks it down this way. The top third trains, even on their own dime, out of ambition to be good at their job. The middle third trains enough to be competent. The bottom third are given their job even though they aren’t competent.
It's a mindset, but as time goes on and the career wears you down, the voluntary training can wane. I guess it depends on the size, location and demands of each department.
 
I never said Alex didn't break the law. If he did, he should have been arrested.

I'm saying he shouldn't have been killed.
We going in circles. Yeah he probably didn’t deserve to die. But he took steps knowing he was risking his life. He gambled and he lost.
 
It's a mindset, but as time goes on and the career wears you down, the voluntary training can wane. I guess it depends on the size, location and demands of each department.
A good captain puts the right people in the right jobs. And there probably aren’t enough administrative or low incident positions to put people who are no longer fit for that type of duty in. And not enough younger people interested in the job anymore since they may end up having to spend their life savings defending themselves if they shoot some bro who was trying to kill them.
 
A good captain puts the right people in the right jobs. And there probably aren’t enough administrative or low incident positions to put people who are no longer fit for that type of duty in. And not enough younger people interested in the job anymore since they may end up having to spend their life savings defending themselves if they shoot some bro who was trying to kill them.
If the department is big enough, Captains have no say so in the hiring process. Captain of a recruiting unit, yes but the Chief has the final say.
 
If the department is big enough, Captains have no say so in the hiring process. Captain of a recruiting unit, yes but the Chief has the final say.
Usually the chief has no say in the hiring process. Mayors and police boards do it. Which is a big part of the problem.
 
I never said Alex didn't break the law. If he did, he should have been arrested.

I'm saying he shouldn't have been killed.
If we’re gonna play the “shoulda” game, he shoulda left his firearm at home.
 
He didn't have a backup gun.

The next question in your line is "well how were the cops supposed to know that?"

The answer is "Oh so every cop can just shoot anybody they try to arrest because they MIGHT have a gun hidden on them somewhere? No, they cannot. That's not how the law works."

Your next reply will be "Of course not, you can't just assume everybody has as gun, but Alex had a gun removed from him so it's reasonable to assume he'd have another one."

My answer would be "No, it's not. Having one holstered gun doesn't guarantee you'll have another one. See my first theoretical response. A cop can't just shoot somebody because they think that person MIGHT have a gun on them."


Come on, it's like you're not even trying.
This is reddit logic.
Here you go again, telling me what my replies will be and judging me for things you made up in your head.
That's not how adults discuss things.
 
We going in circles. Yeah he probably didn’t deserve to die. But he took steps knowing he was risking his life. He gambled and he lost.
Especially after we now know that he was in a confrontation with them days earlier and ended up with some rib injuries then, yet he chose to come back armed. Poor dumbass..
Logic and reason elude these people..
They should be pissed off that Walz and Frey and a dozen others are using them to create a diversion from the Somali fraud investigation, and they just run out and scream at the clouds over the people trying to stop it….
The stupid runs very deep in Minnesota
 
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