Deal gone bad

[Tone Zone]

That said, I'm surprized everyone seems to equate some sick father story as fact or as an excuse to prolong this ordeal so long.

I never said I did. I stated what I do in an earlier post. I just wouldn't have reacted in the way the buyer had....knowing that it would not help my cause. I'd wait it out a couple of days, knowing that I'd never do business with seller again. That's about the best thing you could do sense the seller already has your money. One has plenty of time to file a dispute with PP if need be...so, there is no rush. If you overreact like the buyer did here, chances are the seller will fuck you around even more than he already has.....guaranteeing a PP dispute that will only cost you more time and aggravation. If the buyer did what I would have done.....he could have got his item several days later then he should and THEN air out his grievances here about the seller if desired....to warn others.

 

[Tone Zone]

But, it's all good.

I hear it all the time and despise this saying. It's NOT ALL GOOD. Whoever started saying it should be smacked around a bit to see how good that is.

Don't worry!!!.........IT'S ALL GOOD!!!

 

[Bob Savage]

Don't worry!!!.........IT'S ALL GOOD!!!

 

[MOAAH]

That said, I'm surprized everyone seems to equate some sick father story as fact or as an excuse to prolong this ordeal so long.

I never said I did.

Sorry, 'everyone' was a generalization. I should have maybe posted: 'so many' or somethin'.

 

[MOAAH]

But, it's all good.

I hear it all the time and despise this saying. It's NOT ALL GOOD. Whoever started saying it should be smacked around a bit to see how good that is.

I agree, that's why I always say:
It's all good until it ain't!

 

[Ventura]

Wow...

This one's been beat to death already, I know. For the 2 parties involved, shitty - sorry for you both. But here's my humble take on it.

a) When you are selling something, does it feel good to get the money fast? If so, it feels just as good for the Buyer to know his shit is en route.

b) When we post something for sale, do we read things like: Hey I'm selling this gizmo and I want this much for it, I'd really appreciate it if you send the funds ASAP. I just gotta let you know my life is really complicated and getting the funds doesn't mean I'm going to send the gizmo right away. I'll send it when I get around to it. I say this because, for the most part, whenever I am expected to do something within a time frame other than my own, a lot of bizarre shit happens - car accidents, loss of job, loss of girlfriend, hurricane, floods, flesh eating disease, intestinal parasites, loss of sight, aliens, FBI raids, paralysis, etc. - and it usually happens the moment I accept your funds. So please don't be annoyed, it's just the way it's been lately. Thanks for your interest, buy with confidence

c) On the flipside, seems most Buyers who get into this pickle of waiting always have a big show to do within days of purchasing the item; the item is necessary for them to do the show; they've somehow not explained how they did shows just fine prior to the arrival of said gizmo; the gizmo becomes a very, very important thing on which almost equally as traumatic and/or paramount circumstances (as the above Sellers') rely, rest and are respondent to.

Just my take on matters as I've seen this, oh, you know, like, a countless number of times...

I am very sorry KCLARK for the scenario. I would have explained this the moment you knew it was going to pose a problem to the timeliness of the transaction and offer to return the funds if the Buyer wasn't able to cope with the delay. Business is business, and family is family. They're separate entities.

Namaste,
Mo

 

[mystixboi]

How does the OP still not have his money back?

 

[smdb]

I never said why I needed the unit. Should I have to? I bought it. He said he would ship the next day. END OF STORY.

I got pissed off because Klark acted a bit like I jerk when I said it was not cool that he did not ship the next day, like he said he would do, twice. He told me to relax and to not "tell him what to do" Then he shows his hypocrisy by saying if he would have known I "needed" it he would have done the right thing and shipped it faster. That makes no sense to me at all. Why did it have to be an urgent thing for him to ship fast? It was my property at that time, not his. He had MY money. Suddenly his life would have become less hectic and he would have made time to ship because I needed it and did not just want it in a hurry?

I call bullshit!

 

[smdb]

How does the OP still not have his money back?

Good question.

It ws pretty obvious that Klark was telling me to fuck off when he said go ahead and file a paypal dispute, "your money will be tied up for days" he said. I bet he typed it with a smile.

 

[ibenhad]

Just my 2 cents. Excuses are like assholes, everybody has one.

 

[mystixboi]

How does the OP still not have his money back?

Good question.

It ws pretty obvious that Klark was telling me to fuck off when he said go ahead and file a paypal dispute, "your money will be tied up for days" he said. I bet he typed it with a smile.

That's messed up. So he is showing his true colors to the rest of the forum by not just giving you your money back. That's lame

So I take it you're not going to add him to our signature

 

[MOAAH]

How does the OP still not have his money back?

'cause the seller spent too much time writting a lengthy excuse here and had no time to push a few buttons to transfer PP funds.

 

[rupe]

Sparky!

Brilliant!

Oh, yeah....real brilliant.....real original.

I had no help at all in coming up with that term...100% original from where I sit
But if you don't like it, we still have Skippy and Sunshine available...let me know and we'll print it on your helmet and mouthpiece

Ok, in all seriousness, your last real reply misses my point. The buyer has a good idea when something should arrive based on past experience. If the item is shipped out when the seller says it will be yet fails to arrive in time for the weekend gig, the buyer has no issue to take up with the seller...he took a chance based on past precedent and lost. That is all. If it was clearly "needed" and not just "wanted", measures needed to be taken to ensure a delivery date (obviously more $$$ to ship in this fashion).

I understand about life getting in the way...its no excuse to ignore a business transaction through inaction with no communication. Once again, try it with a loan or bill and see how much they care that your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death. On the other hand, a fellow player/forumite may just work with you if you take the time to communicate...which the seller did not bother to do.

RIP Snowball

 

[MOAAH]

your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death.
RIP Snowball

Best laugh so far today

 

[Ventura]

your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death.
RIP Snowball

Best laugh so far today

Snowball and I have hung together!! Was some of the best moments of my sordid past...

 

[jmgman69]

your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death.
RIP Snowball

Best laugh so far today

Agreed!!!

 

[Tone Zone]

How does the OP still not have his money back?

Good question.

It ws pretty obvious that Klark was telling me to fuck off when he said go ahead and file a paypal dispute, "your money will be tied up for days" he said. I bet he typed it with a smile.

Well, of course he did.....because you done pissed him off! You obviously had every right to be pissed off, but when you go about it the way you did.....what does the seller have to lose (besides his reputation)? In the end, you're the one that has to eat it while you wait, argue, and state your case to Paypal. It's not fair, but it is what is.

 

[Tone Zone]

Ok, in all seriousness, your last real reply misses my point. The buyer has a good idea when something should arrive based on past experience. If the item is shipped out when the seller says it will be yet fails to arrive in time for the weekend gig, the buyer has no issue to take up with the seller...he took a chance based on past precedent and lost. That is all. If it was clearly "needed" and not just "wanted", measures needed to be taken to ensure a delivery date (obviously more $$$ to ship in this fashion).
I understand about life getting in the way...its no excuse to ignore a business transaction through inaction with no communication. Once again, try it with a loan or bill and see how much they care that your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death. On the other hand, a fellow player/forumite may just work with you if you take the time to communicate...which the seller did not bother to do.

Goddamn it......how fuckin' DENSE are you!?! I did not miss anything. You were not even making a point....I was! Back when I was responding to the OP's post. You weren't even in the conversation until you started questioning my post because you were confused (and apparently still are.) I feel I've explained my points very clearly and have shown how they make perfectly good sense with the matter at hand.

At this point, if you can't comprehend what I've said.....then you NEVER will, ya jaggoff. Now,....go argue with a sign post....because I'm done with ya.

 

[rupe]

Ok, in all seriousness, your last real reply misses my point. The buyer has a good idea when something should arrive based on past experience. If the item is shipped out when the seller says it will be yet fails to arrive in time for the weekend gig, the buyer has no issue to take up with the seller...he took a chance based on past precedent and lost. That is all. If it was clearly "needed" and not just "wanted", measures needed to be taken to ensure a delivery date (obviously more $$$ to ship in this fashion).
I understand about life getting in the way...its no excuse to ignore a business transaction through inaction with no communication. Once again, try it with a loan or bill and see how much they care that your little gerbil Snowball just ate your shroom stash and experienced a groovy psychedelic death. On the other hand, a fellow player/forumite may just work with you if you take the time to communicate...which the seller did not bother to do.

Goddamn it......how fuckin' DENSE are you!?! I did not miss anything. You were not even making a point....I was! Back when I was responding to the OP's post. You weren't even in the conversation until you started questioning my post because you were confused (and apparently still are.) I feel I've explained my points very clearly and have shown how they make perfectly good sense with the matter at hand.

At this point, if you can't comprehend what I've said.....then you NEVER will, ya jaggoff. Now,....go argue with a sign post....because I'm done with ya.

Except that you've made no sense other than to imply that its no big deal if the seller doesn't ship on time. I fully comprehend what you've been saying all along...I was just hoping you didn't mean it the way it was coming out. Now I know you did actually mean it...and I now know somebody who I won't bother doing business with.

Now to go argue with that sign post... I better prep because I'm sure it will have more rational thoughts than you seem to. Sorry you're done with me...you've upped the comedy factor here a great deal

 

[Shawn Lutz]

Poor communication on both parts. Over reaction drama on both parts. If you really needed it by a certain date you really should have clarified "hey I need this by the weekend". Did you request 2nd-3rd day air or ground service? If he shipped ground you probably wouldn't have had it by the weekend anyway.

If the seller didn't make the ship out date then out of courtesy he should update you on the status.

If you want to make person not do something just tell them what they SHOULD HAVE done While I think both folks are exhibiting a mild form of douchebaggery its not the end of the world or worth the public drama of this thread. I agree with Steve tact is important in getting favorable results. A person is going to help the nice guy, not someone they may or may not feel has an attitude problem. For me personally, if some one tells me what I SHOULD have done in the manner you addressed him then the fuck you mode is immediately engaged