Death metal, doom metal, etc... would like your thoughts

[RSRD]

So... maybe someone can enlighten me as to what genre this is. I just found out my nephew was in a battle of the bands and that his band won first. Pretty cool. I knew he liked metal but didnt' know he was playing guitar. He is only 17 and wrote the music and lyrics to both songs.

Anyone familiar with the genre ? if so, whats your though on the songs? I'm pretty excited about it but I have no way of telling whether he's got skills or not.

 

[EOT]

I'm pretty sure they're covering an All Shall Perish song.

Pretty good if you can play it IMO. Sounds like they could clean it up a bit. But props for going for a tough songs

 

[RSRD]

Okay cool. I A/B'd the first song with that one. Very similar. They may be playing it poorly enough that it doesnt quit match. All Shall Perish are playing those licks very clean. Good stuff.

What Genre would that be called?

 

[Mudder]

Okay cool. I A/B'd the first song with that one. Very similar. They may be playing it poorly enough that it doesnt quit match. All Shall Perish are playing those licks very clean. Good stuff.

What Genre would that be called?

I'd call it cookie monster brootulz. I don't think that's an official term though.

 

[spaced_ghost]

death metal.

 

[dooredge]

The "official" genre of All Shall Perish is called Deathcore.

Definition of deathcore, if you wanted to know - Deathcore is an extreme metal fusion music genre that combines elements of death metal with elements of metalcore, hardcore punk, or both. It is defined by death metal riffs, blast beats and use of metalcore breakdowns.

 

[D-Rock]

The thing about metal nowadays is that it's a lot like spaghetti, easy to make but not always tasty.
In due time, your nephew will eventually find his metal musical culinary stride.
So far he's waving the metal flag strong and proud, which is always great to see.

 

[RSRD]

The "official" genre of All Shall Perish is called Deathcore.

Definition of deathcore, if you wanted to know - Deathcore is an extreme metal fusion music genre that combines elements of death metal with elements of metalcore, hardcore punk, or both. It is defined by death metal riffs, blast beats and use of metalcore breakdowns.

Thanks for the clarification. Im not up to date with this stuff though I do a little bit of listening. Would Born of Osiris be considered metal core? Is metal core just deathcore but more complex in its time sigs and breakdowns?

 

[RSRD]

The thing about metal nowadays is that it's a lot like spaghetti, easy to make but not always tasty.
In due time, your nephew will eventually find his metal musical culinary stride.
So far he's waving the metal flag strong and proud, which is always great to see.

Thats exactly how i felt. It's not very tight but for teenagers who have only been at it for a little while its a great start and they want to bang heads.

 

[Anonymous]

Wikipedia will usually list a style for each band and album

All shall Perish are categorized as Deathcore and Technical Death Metal
All their individual albums are categorized as Deathcore

 

[mchn13]

yeah, i wasn't tackling that shit when i was seventeen lol. good for them.

 

[steve_k]

Death Metal....many men love this stuff. Give's me a fucking headache.

 

[nwright]

BoO IMO is more deathcore, some people call it "prog" or progressive metal.

Seems like Metalcore from it's beginnings was a true fusion of metal and hardcore, but then it degenerated into the poppy crap it is now...Screamed verses, the big epic singing choruses, breakdown as a bridge section, etc. KsE is the prototypical metalcore band to me, or AILD.

Deathcore IMO has a bit more of death metal elements (blast or grind beats) and then a lot of the chuggy chuggy breakdowns.

But it seems even now the terms are changing. I know some kids 14-18 years old who reference bands as "post hardcore" or something like that that to me just sound like "safe" metalcore bands (and most of the dudes have the swooped hair and crap). Not sure why kiddies always insist on using different terms...Half the time I dont even think they have a clue about it, either.

Writing all of that made me feel old...

 

[JerEvil]

I love how hospitable the singer was!

 

[spaced_ghost]

BoO IMO is more deathcore, some people call it "prog" or progressive metal.

Seems like Metalcore from it's beginnings was a true fusion of metal and hardcore, but then it degenerated into the poppy crap it is now...Screamed verses, the big epic singing choruses, breakdown as a bridge section, etc. KsE is the prototypical metalcore band to me, or AILD.

Deathcore IMO has a bit more of death metal elements (blast or grind beats) and then a lot of the chuggy chuggy breakdowns.

But it seems even now the terms are changing. I know some kids 14-18 years old who reference bands as "post hardcore" or something like that that to me just sound like "safe" metalcore bands (and most of the dudes have the swooped hair and crap). Not sure why kiddies always insist on using different terms...Half the time I dont even think they have a clue about it, either.

Writing all of that made me feel old...

Post-hardcore originally meant Fugazi, etc.--bands that were influenced by early hardcore but brought in post-punk influences to make it more melodic/musical. i.e. the kids that would have been originally calling bands post-hardcore were 14-18 in the mid 80's, i.e., older than me (and I'm mid-30's.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore

Metalcore to me always meant bands that combined metal with screamo and radio pop. worst shit on earth, imo.

tbh, i stopped paying attention to genres and what "kids these days" like a long time ago, so who knows/whaddoo i know. I've listened to metal since I was 12 and always will, along with alot of other stuff.

 

[some dude]

Sub-genres kind of lost all meaning once every new band was in it's own sub-genre.

 

[nwright]

BoO IMO is more deathcore, some people call it "prog" or progressive metal.

Seems like Metalcore from it's beginnings was a true fusion of metal and hardcore, but then it degenerated into the poppy crap it is now...Screamed verses, the big epic singing choruses, breakdown as a bridge section, etc. KsE is the prototypical metalcore band to me, or AILD.

Deathcore IMO has a bit more of death metal elements (blast or grind beats) and then a lot of the chuggy chuggy breakdowns.

But it seems even now the terms are changing. I know some kids 14-18 years old who reference bands as "post hardcore" or something like that that to me just sound like "safe" metalcore bands (and most of the dudes have the swooped hair and crap). Not sure why kiddies always insist on using different terms...Half the time I dont even think they have a clue about it, either.

Writing all of that made me feel old...

Post-hardcore originally meant Fugazi, etc.--bands that were influenced by early hardcore but brought in post-punk influences to make it more melodic/musical. i.e. the kids that would have been originally calling bands post-hardcore were 14-18 in the mid 80's, i.e., older than me (and I'm mid-30's.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-hardcore

Metalcore to me always meant bands that combined metal with screamo and radio pop. worst shit on earth, imo.

tbh, i stopped paying attention to genres and what "kids these days" like a long time ago, so who knows/whaddoo i know. I've listened to metal since I was 12 and always will, along with alot of other stuff.

exactly. I always equated post hardcore to Fugazi type bands as well. It's funny to hear "scene kids" talk, though...And even funnier when they are in bands or play instruments. A lot of the kids I see nowadays have learned soloing techniques FIRST, so they have no real knowledge of chords, structure, music theory, etc. They'll sit and learn sweep arpeggios until the cows come come (badly, but, yeah), but a kid with a grasp on what tone is, or vibrato, or good palm muting, etc. Is a rarity. Not saying they have to be good at those things...But at least kinda know what you are supposed to do, lol.

 

[RSRD]

So does anyone recognize the second song that starts at 3:20? Its called Eyeless...

Also, is it common for these bands not to have bass players?

 

[nwright]

Nah, pretty much any band in these genres still have bass players, lol.

 

[RSRD]

Nah, pretty much any band in these genres still have bass players, lol.

I figured but didnt want to look so old in case NO bass players were the rage

Id think the bass player would be easy to find but I guess not.