Diezel Einstein - Anybody using one? Midrange issues

[thiswaythatway]

Tremonti uses a shit load of amps both in the studio and on tour. Here he mentions Cornford, Bogner, Mesa, Dumble, and no mention of Diezel for the Fortress album.

http://www.musicradar.com/us/news/guita ... rig-580252

I think Myles Kenedy uses a Herbert... Yes he plays guitar also !

Yes I realize Myles plays guitar but that wasn't the original question.

Badronald asked: "Haha. I can think of hundreds of songs/albums that sound incredible with Boogies.
I have yet to hear something recorded that sounds as good with a Diezel.

Can someone please direct me towards an amazing sounding album recorded with a Diezel? Don't say Tool. Something not mixed with a Marshall. Please. I'd love to hear one.

FYI. I've played a VH4 and I thought it was killer. Great amp."

 

[carlygtr]

German mids, like Engl. Keep them in Germany

 

[FourT6and2]

I might have missed it, but what speakers and what power tubes are you using?

 

[tripstan]

So I picked up an Einstein combo in a trade around 6 weeks ago and have gigged it pretty heavily since. The conclusion I've come to is that whilst I do think it sounds cool, it seems a little hollow in the midrange unless I crank the mids all the way up. Feel is very nice, it's pretty versatile especially with the mod, but it doesn't cut like something like a Marshall.

Is anybody here using one? Thoughts?

It's a combo. I have a Boogie MKIII 1x12 combo that sounds just like that. I used a 4x12 mesa with it and about shit my pants. Try it with a good 2x12 or 4x12 and report back.

 

[Random Hero]

I might have missed it, but what speakers and what power tubes are you using?

V30, and whatever is stock.

 

[FourT6and2]

I might have missed it, but what speakers and what power tubes are you using?

V30, and whatever is stock.

What's stock? EL34? KT77? 6L6? You never looked?

 

[se7en]

Isn't that kind of the diezel sound? I know that's supposed to be one of their more versatile amps but I feel you get that with a lot of modern metal high gain monsters the other channels are effected but the overall scooped and dark nature of the amp. I have more experience with engl's in this department but I think the same may apply. The Einstein seems like a killer head though and has intrigued me for awhile

It might be with some high gain amps. However my Triple Rec will slice through any band mix and thump the entire band if I'm not careful. It's certainly a high gain amp.

This seems to be a common topic with Diezel threads though. I couldn't say. I've never used one with a band.

The common topic among Diezel threads is that your Triple Recto works great as a door stop. I do think that's BS because a properly dialed in Recto with a simple TS808 can stomp anything for heavy stuff.

Haha. I can think of hundreds of songs/albums that sound incredible with Boogies.
I have yet to hear something recorded that sounds as good with a Diezel.

Can someone please direct me towards an amazing sounding album recorded with a Diezel? Don't say Tool. Something not mixed with a Marshall. Please. I'd love to hear one.

FYI. I've played a VH4 and I thought it was killer. Great amp.

Adam jones only tracks with the Diezels. (per Peter Stapfer)
Listen to 10'000 days, it's all Diezel.

I read in a Guitar World interview that a Bogner Uberschall and a few other amps were used as well.

 

[se7en]

My bands last album was recorded with ONLY a VH4.
I think it sounds fuckin great.
http://theshadowprinciple.bandcamp.com/track/the-rift

Fuckin' killer stuff man! I like the VH4 tone the most of the Diezel's I've heard...only played a Herbert so far.

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I cranked mids with mine.

 

[Random Hero]

I might have missed it, but what speakers and what power tubes are you using?

V30, and whatever is stock.

What's stock? EL34? KT77? 6L6? You never looked?

Whatever is stock as in, whatever EL34s they put in there from the factory, I presumed. However as you seem to think it's so vital, they're Ruby EL34BSTRs.

I literally just got in from a gig with the amp again. Mids cranked, still hardly cuts. It's just so hollow in the midrange to me. This is using a variety of guitars, I tried the deep off, presence off, both at noon, and lots of different settings. It just doesn't cut or bark in the mids at all, and always sounds modern and scoopy to me. Not a lot of bite either, always smooth. I'm sure that's very cool if that's your thing but it's gonna have to go. It sounds great alone but I always get swallowed up on stage with it.

Just the way it is I guess.