Diezel VH2

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Thanks for chiming in @Anxiety Serum and @angelspade!
Are the cleans on the VH2 significantly better than on the VH4?
I am fortunate enough to often visit a store in Germany that has a VH4 and a D-Moll on demo, but sadly no other Diezel amps.
I spend a couple of hours playing the VH4 with different guitars every time I’m there.
My impression so far is:
CH1 was so far “good but didn’t blow my socks off”.
CH2 is “difficult”, I can’t really get it to work. I much prefer my Silver Jubilee for that crunch sound.
CH3 is happy days, get lost for hours.
CH4 gets almost no use because I always get stuck on CH3, ?, but I get it being great for leads, and why having it may be an advantage.
That’s what makes the decision difficult…
 
XaviM said:
Thanks for chiming in @Anxiety Serum and @angelspade!
Are the cleans on the VH2 significantly better than on the VH4?
I am fortunate enough to often visit a store in Germany that has a VH4 and a D-Moll on demo, but sadly no other Diezel amps.
I spend a couple of hours playing the VH4 with different guitars every time I’m there.
My impression so far is:
CH1 was so far “good but didn’t blow my socks off”.
CH2 is “difficult”, I can’t really get it to work. I much prefer my Silver Jubilee for that crunch sound.
CH3 is happy days, get lost for hours.
CH4 gets almost no use because I always get stuck on CH3, ?, but I get it being great for leads, and why having it may be an advantage.
That’s what makes the decision difficult…
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I've never played a VH4, but most say the clean channel isn't very good. VH2 took the clean from the Paul model.

The VH2 channel one is great for cleans (up to 1pm) and does a very good crunch further up the dial. Maxed out and boosted with a blues driver I sometimes (not always) like it better than the channel 2. It's a just a more open and raw CH2 when played that way. Channel two is more compressed and smoother.

I tell people if you like the VH2 video with the two Peter's on Diezel's website, you won't be disappointed. It sounds just like the video (which is not always the case).
 
XaviM said:
I love your videos on the VH2 @Guitarjon! I’ve watched them like ten times, haha.
I’m trying to decide myself right now whether I should get the VH2 or if I should go for the VH4.
What made you decide on the VH2, other than availability and affordability?
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Those reasons, yes. I also use the amp in my studio so I don't need the 4 channels for live.
 
I had a brief diezel hate episode when I tried a Vh4 and herbert and we also had a hagen in my rehearsal room and a little fokker back a few years ago...

I know why... because I had not tried them with their respective matching Diezel cabs - herb/FLV30 and VH4/RLV30.
Those who think these amps sound like ass or underwhelming- I thought so too until I had a chance to hear them matched up. And I frkin crapped my pants.

The two cabs I hated them with were a good ole rectifier OS 4X12 and my trusty old orange PPC412.
Both sounded like they can't keep up with the bass overload them amp pushes and i ended up with a super weird EQ with bass almost at zero, mids in the middle and treble/presence pretty high up. Which made the low end so so, but then also super brittle in the top end. it was painful to play and listen to in both cases.

Then the matching cab.. everything at noon, sounded full 3D, no hiss, no brash brittle high end, no tubby flubby low end. Actually I could even raise the bass and deep a bit and it still sounded great.
 
K-Roll said:
I had a brief diezel hate episode when I tried a Vh4 and herbert and we also had a hagen in my rehearsal room and a little fokker back a few years ago...

I know why... because I had not tried them with their respective matching Diezel cabs - herb/FLV30 and VH4/RLV30.
Those who think these amps sound like ass or underwhelming- I thought so too until I had a chance to hear them matched up. And I frkin crapped my pants.

The two cabs I hated them with were a good ole rectifier OS 4X12 and my trusty old orange PPC412.
Both sounded like they can't keep up with the bass overload them amp pushes and i ended up with a super weird EQ with bass almost at zero, mids in the middle and treble/presence pretty high up. Which made the low end so so, but then also super brittle in the top end. it was painful to play and listen to in both cases.

Then the matching cab.. everything at noon, sounded full 3D, no hiss, no brash brittle high end, no tubby flubby low end. Actually I could even raise the bass and deep a bit and it still sounded great.
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I agree that they need the correct cabinet! I played the VH4 in the store with eight different 2x12 and 4x12 cabs (they have a pretty awesome switching system). Oddly enough, I liked it most with a Mesa Boogie OS 4x12 and with an ENGL 2x12, both with V30s.
 
Having tried several configurations, I found that my VH4 actually sounds best through the Mesa OS Recto cab.

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Owner of a VH2 with a 2x12 with V30....awsome amp .....great cab too ....what an idiot not to have order a 4x12 !! and now i'm wondering what sounds like a 4x12 with G12K100 ....and no sellers send them with possibility to return it ....cool lol.....as somebody said before channel 1 is fantastic and with an overdrive you can muscle it giving more gain with open sounding
Channel 2 .....over 12h , gain is too much , sound is very compressed that' why i'm always wondering if VH4 is may be 'better'.....with it's four channel .Having the feeling channel 2 great for crunch maybe the first less open than VH2 but Channel 3 and 4 of the VH4 seem to have a lot more low end to my ears ???may be my ears are rusty ....
 
K-Roll said:
I had a brief diezel hate episode when I tried a Vh4 and herbert and we also had a hagen in my rehearsal room and a little fokker back a few years ago...

I know why... because I had not tried them with their respective matching Diezel cabs - herb/FLV30 and VH4/RLV30.
Those who think these amps sound like ass or underwhelming- I thought so too until I had a chance to hear them matched up. And I frkin crapped my pants.

The two cabs I hated them with were a good ole rectifier OS 4X12 and my trusty old orange PPC412.
Both sounded like they can't keep up with the bass overload them amp pushes and i ended up with a super weird EQ with bass almost at zero, mids in the middle and treble/presence pretty high up. Which made the low end so so, but then also super brittle in the top end. it was painful to play and listen to in both cases.

Then the matching cab.. everything at noon, sounded full 3D, no hiss, no brash brittle high end, no tubby flubby low end. Actually I could even raise the bass and deep a bit and it still sounded great.
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The day I bought my vh4, I demoed it and the Herbert with two cabs. Mesa os with v30’s and a diesel cab with g12k 100’s….fart city with the mesa. I think that is the speaker in the diesel cab anyway. Long time ago. At the time I was using a gflex 2x12 and a Randall os 2x12-1x15….the vh4 worked great with either of those cabs. And shined with both of them hooked up….
 
JackBootedThug said:
The day I bought my vh4, I demoed it and the Herbert with two cabs. Mesa os with v30’s and a diesel cab with g12k 100’s….fart city with the mesa. I think that is the speaker in the diesel cab anyway. Long time ago. At the time I was using a gflex 2x12 and a Randall os 2x12-1x15….the vh4 worked great with either of those cabs. And shined with both of them hooked up….
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Buy my vh4 lol
 
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