Exo-metal
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Let's just call it dynamic dominance lol
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exo-metal":3cpkzuzs said:
Haha!
Speeddemon
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Subtle superiority.exo-metal":2kfj3d81 said:
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Racerxrated
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I've played the Morse, very nice amp..along with the Artist/Blackmore as my fav Engl amps.Speeddemon":121cex1j said:Subtle superiority.exo-metal":121cex1j said:
But in no way would I confuse any of them with a C+. At least the C+ tone I like to dial in.
Exo-metal
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Great point. I've seen a lot of clips of the C+ dialed in far from what I like to hear from what the amp can do. I find it misleading when people post their "review" of a C+ and sell it as if the amp falls short when they are setting it up for who knows what tone they're after. The amp is a beast but they keep the big dog on the chain...time and time again.
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Speeddemon":2fm63m34 said:Subtle superiority.exo-metal":2fm63m34 said:
That’s it! It’s the feel where things differ a bit and the IIC+ feels a little more home to me. But...the Morse, whew!!!
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Racerxrated":1qmumrl2 said:I've played the Morse, very nice amp..along with the Artist/Blackmore as my fav Engl amps.Speeddemon":1qmumrl2 said:Subtle superiority.exo-metal":1qmumrl2 said:
But in no way would I confuse any of them with a C+. At least the C+ tone I like to dial in.
I wanted to try the Artist. ENGL gets a wrap as just a metal amp in most circles, but they do everything so well, or at least the Morse. Beautiful tones and feel. The cleans in a mix are brilliant.
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exo-metal":swl0tek3 said:
It’s versatility is insane, and can really do most things better than most things. Big heavy ass weight, smooth lead tones, aggressive tight shred-stead, bluesy cleans, big Fender/Dumble cleans, classic rock at its finest, etc...it does it all.
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Oh fo sho. If I'm not mistaken, the cleans of the Morse should be close if not the same as the Invader's cleans; which -next to Mesa Marks and the Diezel DMoll- to me are some of THE best cleans in a high gain, multi-channel amp.fatbagg":11cnebzq said:Racerxrated":11cnebzq said:I've played the Morse, very nice amp..along with the Artist/Blackmore as my fav Engl amps.Speeddemon":11cnebzq said:Subtle superiority.exo-metal":11cnebzq said:
But in no way would I confuse any of them with a C+. At least the C+ tone I like to dial in.
I wanted to try the Artist. ENGL gets a wrap as just a metal amp in most circles, but they do everything so well, or at least the Morse. Beautiful tones and feel. The cleans in a mix are brilliant.
And in 'Lo Gain' mode on the Invader (and I assume the Morse as well) they remain very clean, even with the Gain over 2 'o clock (unless you're playing with actives or stupid-high output pups).
Having owned the SE EL34, I even preferred the Invader's cleans to that.
@Racerxrated, I know what you mean. So far all the IIC+ clips I've heard have this specific tone, that's gonna be hard to emulate by most Engls. The compression is different, the saturation, the hair and grittiness. I've understood most Engls have a hefty pre-filtering before the signal hits the first tube, cutting a lot of bass and making it sound so tight, which, in a Mesa Mark you can control more yourself with the EQ potmeters.
Overall, I think most Engls would be smoother in the highs, with the compression adding some low-mid thickness in an area, where a Mark would be a bit leaner, if you dialed it in to remain tight. Also, the Mark can have both this liquid-quality to the gain and compression, while dealing out pure punchy aggression. With most Engls it's typically one or the other. Really liquid high gain then typically is a bit smoother.
But I'm painting broad strokes here of course. A Powerball is no Morse, is no Souvereign, Savage or Straight...