Well, one thing you can't take away from them is that ESP craft some f*ckin' sweet guitars, and their quality control and craftsmanship is pretty hard to beat at their pricepoint - it's flawless. So - it is what it is, I'm an FR-II and an NT-II owner for my shredders, and I'm setting aside cake for an NT-7 Good guitars, and I'd say Ibby is just as good, but ESP is the answer to those who don't 'do' bolt ons.