Evertune anyone?

[Shark Diver]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

I'm sure it's a good product, but I can play for hours without having to retune on a well set up guitar.

 

[Ventura]

Let me be the odd man out here and state for the record that some of the best music evar was played by partially inebriated individuals on partially compromised instruments through partially compromised gear. Spontaneous, gritty, and potent. And this is what the essence of rock and roll was and should be all about. I know there's been a tremendous evolution in the sport of guitar playing acrobatics and pristine studio workmanship and all - the perfection of a digitally enhanced recording, the removal of all traits of potential human involvement. Fuck it.

Keep it real peeps. If I can't have a guitar that's in tune by own hand, I believe I best be taking up the gazoo.

The Evertune is no less "real" than a Floyd Rose. Just like the advent of the Floyd Rose didn't destroy guitar music, neither will the Evertune. It simply keeps your guitar in tune and wonderfully intonated, so you can focus on playing rather than tuning. It's a time saver in the studio and wonderful on stage. I like to compare it to having the benefits of a guitar tech without the guitar tech. When you go out on stage, the Evertune makes sure that your guitar is in tune and well intonated for the whole gig, regardless of how much you abuse your axe. This is a godsend for smaller touring acts who can't afford a guitar tech. Guitarists are so incredibly conservative with their gear, so the natural knee-jerk reaction is to to poo poo it. However, once you try it, the benefits are undeniable.

-oddguitar

If you check my posts, I don't get on with Floyds either

 

[Serratus]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

I'm sure it's a good product, but I can play for hours without having to retune on a well set up guitar.

Umm, just because I like something doesn't mean I work for the company

Having gigged with it a few times now, it's amazing how quick you take for granted that you never have to tune up, no matter how hot and sweaty the gig gets. And I would say that the thing I've really noticed the most is just how much more 'in tune' everything sounds - any slightly awkward chords that you know you don't quite fret properly, or octaves high up the neck that sound a bit out unless you're perfectly tuned-up, just now sound right every time. The review in Guitarist magazine said that everything just sounds so much more musical when you're playing it, and they're right.
You guys who don't like the idea are completely correct in one way - you haven't got to use it, and people have been playing and recording for years without it, but that doesn't mean it's not an awesome bit of kit, and a great innovation. It often amazes me how reluctant guitarists are to accept new things.

 

[TA13131]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

I'm sure it's a good product, but I can play for hours without having to retune on a well set up guitar.

Umm, just because I like something doesn't mean I work for the company

Having gigged with it a few times now, it's amazing how quick you take for granted that you never have to tune up, no matter how hot and sweaty the gig gets. And I would say that the thing I've really noticed the most is just how much more 'in tune' everything sounds - any slightly awkward chords that you know you don't quite fret properly, or octaves high up the neck that sound a bit out unless you're perfectly tuned-up, just now sound right every time. The review in Guitarist magazine said that everything just sounds so much more musical when you're playing it, and they're right.
You guys who don't like the idea are completely correct in one way - you haven't got to use it, and people have been playing and recording for years without it, but that doesn't mean it's not an awesome bit of kit, and a great innovation. It often amazes me how reluctant guitarists are to accept new things.

Some people take things to silly lengths I was more inquiring from people that actually have the experience and knowledge to back up what they're typing about

Thank you for your helpful words. Everything you described about the awkward/bigger chord shapes sounding more in tune is exactly what I assumed/heard about how it would perform, I just had never heard from people that actually own it, that's very exciting to me. I can't count how many bands sets have been ruined due to tuning problems, plus no one enjoys watching or hearing someone tune and to not have to do that would be a dream. There's something wrong with you if you're against having a consistently in tune guitar I am very excited to try it out in the studio first before I make the purchase. Thanks again!

 

[Shark Diver]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

I'm sure it's a good product, but I can play for hours without having to retune on a well set up guitar.

Umm, just because I like something doesn't mean I work for the company

Having gigged with it a few times now, it's amazing how quick you take for granted that you never have to tune up, no matter how hot and sweaty the gig gets. And I would say that the thing I've really noticed the most is just how much more 'in tune' everything sounds - any slightly awkward chords that you know you don't quite fret properly, or octaves high up the neck that sound a bit out unless you're perfectly tuned-up, just now sound right every time. The review in Guitarist magazine said that everything just sounds so much more musical when you're playing it, and they're right.
You guys who don't like the idea are completely correct in one way - you haven't got to use it, and people have been playing and recording for years without it, but that doesn't mean it's not an awesome bit of kit, and a great innovation. It often amazes me how reluctant guitarists are to accept new things.

Wasn't really referring to you. But if you intonate and are in tune - you can't be "more" in tune. Just like you can't be more pregnant. I'm sure it is great for those who feel they need it. Not putting the product down, just the implied idea that I'm not it tune, or need to tune all the time, without it. I get why it could be a useful tool for some.

PS TA13131 In 30+ years I've never had a set ruined because of tuning issues, or stood on stage and tuned while people watch.

 

[Serratus]

But if you intonate and are in tune - you can't be "more" in tune. Just like you can't be more pregnant.

But you can be 'in tune' over more of the guitar neck. Intonation on a guitar is always a compromise - unless the guitar has true-temperament frets (or Buzz Feiten to a lesser degree) then we set the intonation at the 12th fret, but it's never spot on over the rest of the neck. We do it at the 12th fret because that's the best compromise as its the middle of the string, but its still only the best we can do with a system that's inherently slightly out of tune everywhere else. Usually nobody notices but there are certain chord shapes were it really shows, to my ears anyway. To be fair, my wife has seen me gig for years, and on some songs where I always complained about it not sounding quite in tune, she could never tell, so I'm sure some are more sensitive than others!!lol
All I'm saying is don't knock it until you've tried it - its definitely reinvigorated my practice regime and song-writing, etc, more than anything has for years - everything just sounds so 'musical', as I said before. It's like it fixes something that you never knew was wrong before, if you know what I mean? Maybe you wouldn't notice any difference - horses for courses and all that
Misha Mansoor has just got a guitar with evertune and true temperament frets - bet that sounds lovely

 

[Ventura]

This is where I get wigged out. See, we're going from talking music, writing notes, figuring out hooks, laying beats, and getting into the groove to getting all techie on the tuning and shit. Reminds me of the FAS forum.

 

[Serratus]

This is where I get wigged out. See, we're going from talking music, writing notes, figuring out hooks, laying beats, and getting into the groove to getting all techie on the tuning and shit. Reminds me of the FAS forum.

Hahahaha, its funny to see you write that on a forum that I thought was a place to talk about lots of the intricacies of music equipment
I talk lots every day about all the other sides of music too, doesn't mean I don't let myself get techie as well.
It's fine, I'm only messing with ya - I fricking love my evertune guitar, if you don't ever want to try one, that's up to you

 

[Shark Diver]

true temperament frets - bet that sounds lovely

Now that wold effect intonation.

I actually intonate from the 3rd and 15th fret.

Believe me, if I had the chance I'd try a guitar with the Evertune. I'm sure it is a fine bridge.

 

[oddguitar]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

Just for the record, I do not work for Evertune. I paid full price for my Evertune bridge. It works exactly as advertised. Buy one if you like it, don't buy one if you don't, but don't insinuate that just because I'm a fan of a product that I must be a shill for the company.....that is neither fair nor cool. In fact, I've gone out of my way on other forums to subtly make other members aware of the massive amount of shilling prevalent on gear forums, especially those "boutique" in nature.

 

[Shark Diver]

Why don't you guys just say you work for Evertune

Just for the record, I do not work for Evertune. I paid full price for my Evertune bridge. It works exactly as advertised. Buy one if you like it, don't buy one if you don't, but don't insinuate that just because I'm a fan of a product that I must be a shill for the company.....that is neither fair nor cool. In fact, I've gone out of my way on other forums to subtly make other members aware of the massive amount of shilling prevalent on gear forums, especially those "boutique" in nature.

No worries. And I don't care either way. Just odd that two new members have a great percentage of their post in this thread. And I wouldn't care if you were "shilling". I have found many great products through shills One being the Vintage Revolution PedalPro. If they hadn't come on here I never would have heard of them. Again, apologies, not putting the bridge down - just the implication that I have issues with tuning or intonation. I don't. But if I had the issues TA13131 has with ruined gigs and wasting half my studio time I imagine I would be hailing the cure as well.

 

[oddguitar]

No worries. And I don't care either way. Just odd that two new members have a great percentage of their post in this thread. And I wouldn't care if you were "shilling". I have found many great products through shills One being the Vintage Revolution PedalPro. If they hadn't come on here I never would have heard of them. Again, apologies, not putting the bridge down - just the implication that I have issues with tuning or intonation. I don't. But if I had the issues TA13131 has with ruined gigs and wasting half my studio time I imagine I would be hailing the cure as well.

I can see where you would think that from looking at the thread, however, I've actually been a member here since 2011 and a long-time lurker before that. I haven't posted much here as I spend most of my forum time on TGP, HRI and VGuitarForums.

I think I have a different understanding of shilling than you do. I have no problem with manufacturers or people associated with manufacturers participating in forums with the intent of promoting their products as long as they make it clear that they are somehow affiliated with the company. To me, this is not shilling and I've discovered many cool new products this way as well. What I do have a problem with, is people with a vested interest in a product promoting it on a forum while pretending to be "a regular joe". This is classic shilling. Compensation is often free gear, or getting paid for "forum marketing services" and it happens all the time. Often times these "shills" are long-time forum members who are well-respected in the forum community. If you've ever wondered how it is that certain people constantly have new "must-have" high-dollar boutique gear every few weeks that they enthusiastically post about (usually accompanied with lots of high quality pictures and/or a video), you're starting to get the idea....

 

[Shark Diver]

No worries. And I don't care either way. Just odd that two new members have a great percentage of their post in this thread. And I wouldn't care if you were "shilling". I have found many great products through shills One being the Vintage Revolution PedalPro. If they hadn't come on here I never would have heard of them. Again, apologies, not putting the bridge down - just the implication that I have issues with tuning or intonation. I don't. But if I had the issues TA13131 has with ruined gigs and wasting half my studio time I imagine I would be hailing the cure as well.

I can see where you would think that from looking at the thread, however, I've actually been a member here since 2011 and a long-time lurker before that. I haven't posted much here as I spend most of my forum time on TGP, HRI and VGuitarForums.

I think I have a different understanding of shilling than you do. I have no problem with manufacturers or people associated with manufacturers participating in forums with the intent of promoting their products as long as they make it clear that they are somehow affiliated with the company. To me, this is not shilling and I've discovered many cool new products this way as well. What I do have a problem with, is people with a vested interest in a product promoting it on a forum while pretending to be "a regular joe". This is classic shilling. Compensation is often free gear, or getting paid for "forum marketing services" and it happens all the time. Often times these "shills" are long-time forum members who are well-respected in the forum community. If you've ever wondered how it is that certain people constantly have new "must-have" high-dollar boutique gear every few weeks that they enthusiastically post about (usually accompanied with lots of high quality pictures and/or a video), you're starting to get the idea....

I agree. I show our guitars as well. I was not referring to you. And I am not the forum police. The OP struck a nerve I guess with the "question" and then proclaiming the world a better place because of a product he hadn't even tried. But again, I should have just abstained from the conversation.

 

[frenster]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

 

[Shark Diver]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

Never once "poo-pooing" the bridge. Whatever.

 

[frenster]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

Never once "poo-pooing" the bridge. Whatever.

No, you've been very kind regarding the bridge. Nice to see you trust the people who use it to tell like it is.

 

[Shark Diver]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

Never once "poo-pooing" the bridge. Whatever.

No, you've been very kind regarding the bridge. Nice to see you trust the people who use it to tell like it is.

If the studio guys are saying it saves them a lot of time and works well who am I to say otherwise? I haven't tried it, but I'm sure I will when given the chance. Since I haven't tried it, I tried to be very careful not to say anything negative about the product - because how would I know? My apologies to Evertune if I came off negative towards their product. Oh well, think of all the free bumps I've given this thread Hopefully I'll get a chance to play one someday.

 

[frenster]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

Never once "poo-pooing" the bridge. Whatever.

No, you've been very kind regarding the bridge. Nice to see you trust the people who use it to tell like it is.

If the studio guys are saying it saves them a lot of time and works well who am I to say otherwise? I haven't tried it, but I'm sure I will when given the chance. Since I haven't tried it, I tried to be very careful not to say anything negative about the product - because how would I know? My apologies to Evertune if I came off negative towards their product. Oh well, think of all the free bumps I've given this thread Hopefully I'll get a chance to play one someday.

I think when you try one you'll find its fkng incredible! I certainly was blown away by it.

btw, your tagline? Lincoln never said that. http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lin ... cannot.htm. Just thought you'd like to know.

 

[Shark Diver]

You will notice it's only the people who haven't tried it who are poo-pooing it.

I also do not work for Evertune, but I've installed dozens of them, many for high profile touring and studio guitarists as well as producers. It works as advertised and the monster players I've installed them for know how to tune their guitars, but they're smart enough to know that if they don't have to tune all the time it saves them time, money and heartache ("Great take, now tune your guitar and do it EXACTLY the same!").

I can tell you that these monster players come back to have more installs done. I think that's saying something, as opposed to never trying it and telling us how it's a gimmick. It is a brilliant product. I've been working on guitars since '75 and I've seen everything. I'm so jaded when it comes to gear it's not even funny. This bridge, on the other hand, simply blew my mind, and I was a Doubting Thomas until I actually had one in my hands.

Try it first, otherwise you're talking out your azz.

Never once "poo-pooing" the bridge. Whatever.

No, you've been very kind regarding the bridge. Nice to see you trust the people who use it to tell like it is.

If the studio guys are saying it saves them a lot of time and works well who am I to say otherwise? I haven't tried it, but I'm sure I will when given the chance. Since I haven't tried it, I tried to be very careful not to say anything negative about the product - because how would I know? My apologies to Evertune if I came off negative towards their product. Oh well, think of all the free bumps I've given this thread Hopefully I'll get a chance to play one someday.

I think when you try one you'll find its fkng incredible! I certainly was blown away by it.

btw, your tagline? Lincoln never said that. http://www.abrahamlincolnonline.org/lin ... cannot.htm. Just thought you'd like to know.

I knew I couldn't trust Wikipedia