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Digital Jams":7z7g5da1 said:
danyeo":7z7g5da1 said:
Digital Jams":7z7g5da1 said:
Standards MIK for $2000.


OH god that would make my day.................................

This would shake the guitar community to it's foundations. :lol: :LOL:

Can you just see it????

Some guy looking at his $2000+ MIK american classic??????

When they hear the guy in their head saying....uh you purrchase Lesa Paw froma China...justa play in USA.
 
Jeff Hilligan":2svkuhb7 said:
Digital Jams":2svkuhb7 said:
danyeo":2svkuhb7 said:
Digital Jams":2svkuhb7 said:
Standards MIK for $2000.


OH god that would make my day.................................

This would shake the guitar community to it's foundations. :lol: :LOL:

Can you just see it????

Some guy looking at his $2000+ MIK american classic??????

When they hear the guy in their head saying....uh you purrchase Lesa Paw froma China...justa play in USA.
Why am I laughing so hard at this :lol: :LOL: :doh:
 
Made in the US is becoming stuck in the box in the US...that's right now that I'm not working for a gear co. no more I can bad mouth stuff. Yeah, baby! :)
 
jmgman69":o76n9yvn said:
Jeff Hilligan":o76n9yvn said:
Digital Jams":o76n9yvn said:
danyeo":o76n9yvn said:
Digital Jams":o76n9yvn said:
Standards MIK for $2000.


OH god that would make my day.................................

This would shake the guitar community to it's foundations. :lol: :LOL:

Can you just see it????

Some guy looking at his $2000+ MIK american classic??????

When they hear the guy in their head saying....uh you purrchase Lesa Paw froma China...justa play in USA.
Why am I laughing so hard at this :lol: :LOL: :doh:

:lol: :LOL:
 
Gibson officials should be arrested for the crap Les Pauls they have been putting out the last few years.
 
The black market is a sticky business .... wood, dope, prostitution...it's all the same.
 
If they get busted for illegally importing endangered wood species, its gonna come down on them WAY hard!! All the stupid CITES citations you need to ship oversea's now have it to where I am scared to send anything across teh pond, as it can get confiscated and you are out your guitar.....
 
I like what someone said on TGP.



Seriously, if the fretboard wood made any difference to the tone or the feel, wouldn't every Gibson Standard sound and feel funny only on the notes that fell on those big honking plastic fret markers?
 
danyeo":euhrn4bk said:
I like what someone said on TGP.



Seriously, if the fretboard wood made any difference to the tone or the feel, wouldn't every Gibson Standard sound and feel funny only on the notes that fell on those big honking plastic fret markers?

Do not get me started with the magic ear'd guys that are making claims of hearing different woods playing highgain..........shit they are calling they can name the COUNTRY the shit came from :lol: :LOL:
 
wow, this is really gonna suck if their wood supply gets any worse, They havent even been getting large enough pieces of mahogany to make a lp body which is why us see 3 or 4 small pieces glued together the past few years. Not to mention the rosewood which is so dried out and light brown they have been dying it dark brown to make it look nicer, my fingers turned brown after playing them at gc.
 
joepete77":1332q6ey said:
wow, this is really gonna suck if their wood supply gets any worse, They havent even been getting large enough pieces of mahogany to make a lp body which is why us see 3 or 4 small pieces glued together the past few years. Not to mention the rosewood which is so dried out and light brown they have been dying it dark brown to make it look nicer, my fingers turned brown after playing them at gc.
:no:
 
doesn't seem like much info is getting out

“We can’t get into specifics right now,” said Nicholas Chavez, special agent in charge with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which conducted the raids along with agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. “This is an ongoing investigation.”

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20110 ... ips-zipped
 
Holy crap they make over 2500 LPs a month there!!!!!!!

They must be just slamming those things together to reach those numbers :lol: :LOL:
 
Digital Jams":l51eafru said:
Holy crap they make over 2500 LPs a month there!!!!!!!

They must be just slamming those things together to reach those numbers :lol: :LOL:

Or just peeling off stickers ;) :yes:
 
tweed":2vgox8k1 said:
Digital Jams":2vgox8k1 said:
Holy crap they make over 2500 LPs a month there!!!!!!!

They must be just slamming those things together to reach those numbers :lol: :LOL:

Or just peeling off stickers ;) :yes:

It could be a good thing, the MIK gibson owners can not save HUGE dollars and just buy edwards stuff :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:
 
Digital Jams":wr7iu6ud said:
tweed":wr7iu6ud said:
Digital Jams":wr7iu6ud said:
Holy crap they make over 2500 LPs a month there!!!!!!!

They must be just slamming those things together to reach those numbers :lol: :LOL:

Or just peeling off stickers ;) :yes:

It could be a good thing, the MIK gibson owners can not save HUGE dollars and just buy edwards stuff :thumbsup: :lol: :LOL: :lol: :LOL:

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :D
 
degenaro":3pqxbkwf said:
Made in the US is becoming stuck in the box in the US...that's right now that I'm not working for a gear co. no more I can bad mouth stuff. Yeah, baby! :)


Done with the THD gig Ed?
 
Digital Jams":33stk4nu said:
......shit they are calling they can name the COUNTRY the shit came from :lol: :LOL:
:lol: :LOL: .... music is more magical for some people.
 
Here is the press release.

Gov’t says wood is illegal if U.S. workers produce it
Thursday, August 25, 2011 The Justice department bullies Gibson without filing charges

The Federal Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. has suggested that the use of wood from India that is not finished by Indian workers is illegal, not because of U.S. law, but because it is the Justice Department’s interpretation of a law in India. (If the same wood from the same tree was finished by Indian workers, the material would be legal.) This action was taken without the support and consent of the government in India.
On August 24, 2011, around 8:45 a.m. CDT, agents for the federal government executed four search warrants on Gibson’s facilities in Nashville and Memphis and seized several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. Gibson had to cease its manufacturing operations and send workers home for the day, while armed agents executed the search warrants. Gibson has fully cooperated with the execution of the search warrants.
• Raid shut down Gibson factories and cost company money
This is the second time that federal agents have raided Gibson facilities and disrupted production – this time causing lost productivity and sales.
• Wood seized was Forest Stewardship Council Controlled
The wood the Government seized on August 24 is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier and is FSC Controlled, meaning that the wood complies with the standards of the Forest Stewardship Council, which is an industry-recognized and independent, not-for-profit organization established to promote responsible management of the world’s forests. FSC Controlled Wood standards require, among other things, that the wood not be illegally harvested and not be harvested in violation of traditional and civil rights. See www.fsc.org for more information. Gibson has a long history of supporting sustainable and responsible sources of wood and has worked diligently with entities such as the Rainforest Alliance and Greenpeace to secure FSC certified supplies. The wood seized on August 24 satisfied FSC standards.
• Nearly two years later, no charges have been filed
In 2009, more than a dozen agents with automatic weapons invaded the Gibson factory in Nashville. The Government seized guitars and a substantial amount of ebony fingerboard blanks from Madagascar. To date, 1 year and 9 months later, criminal charges have NOT been filed, yet the Government still holds Gibson’s property. Gibson has obtained sworn statements and documents from the Madagascar government and these materials, which have been filed in federal court, show that the wood seized in 2009 was legally exported under Madagascar law and that no law has been violated. Gibson is attempting to have its property returned in a civil proceeding that is pending in federal court.
The Justice Department has asked the judge to stop the court case indefinitely.
• Information sought in raid was already made available
Since 2009, Gibson has fully cooperated with the Government’s investigation of wood and has provided substantial documentation regarding Gibson’s wood-buying activities over the years. Yet, the Federal Government raided Gibson’s facilities on August 24, 2011, without warning or communication of any kind. Had the Government simply communicated with Gibson, Gibson would have cooperated without having to stop its production and send workers home.
• Not about illegal logging, not about conservation, not about the environment
The U.S. Lacey Act does not directly address conservation issues but is about obeying all laws of the countries from which wood products are procured. This law reads that you are guilty if you did not observe a law even though you had no knowledge of that law in a foreign country. The U.S. Lacey Act is only applicable when a foreign law has been violated.
• Gibson is innocent and will fight to protect its rights
Gibson has complied with foreign laws and believes it is innocent of ANY wrong doing. We will fight aggressively to prove our innocence.
For more information, please contact:
Henry E. Juszkiewicz
c/o Gibson Guitar Corp.
309 Plus Park Blvd.
Nashville, TN 37217
(615) 871-4500 Extension 2405
www.gibson.com
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