Fender 65 Princeton Reverb

[thegame]

He's too mediocre to ever go full retard.

Agreed. You’re still unchallenged!

 

[The~Kid]

I'm with VBF here, there's a million great fender amps, and I would put a bunch of them over the princeton. The princeton has a great clean tone and is severely limited in it's gainy applications.

It's also great at low volume home practice, but any situation that you need volume you would be better served with a DRRI because it has a big kid speaker

The princeton doesn't have the versatility the DRRI (and by extension almost every other fender amp in existence) has with higher gain tones - Best mod you can do to a princeton is switch the speaker out for a 12". That way you can squeeze some more out of it. But at that point it basically is a DRRI.

Personally I think almost every amp you mentioned has one thing that it excels at better than the rest. And therefore has a use-case where it would be the best choice for someone. Except the princeton, because anything it can do a DRRI can do better IMO

just my two cents

Idk I feel the Princeton probably has nicer cleans and more headroom relative to a Deluxe as the Deluxe has a hotter front end at least with the Reissues.



The Vibrato isn't the best and it's not so in your face but the reverb probably the best I've ever heard and as you said with a 12 it makes up for it. It can handle gain much better this way than with a 110 configuration and takes a FATRAT or Fuzz Face goosed easily without getting muddy or loose and remains right and articulate.


You don't have to upgrade it either and the Reissues allow you to use an external cab so if you have a 112, 212 or 412. You just need a speaker cable and use the appropriate ohms. Nothing crazy really and yeah......


So it's pretty nifty in that regard thanks to that.

 

[DanTravis62]

Idk I feel the Princeton probably has nicer cleans and more headroom relative to a Deluxe as the Deluxe has a hotter front end at least with the Reissues.



The Vibrato isn't the best and it's not so in your face but the reverb probably the best I've ever heard and as you said with a 12 it makes up for it. It can handle gain much better this way than with a 110 configuration and takes a FATRAT or Fuzz Face goosed easily without getting muddy or loose and remains right and articulate.


You don't have to upgrade it either and the Reissues allow you to use an external cab so if you have a 112, 212 or 412. You just need a speaker cable and use the appropriate ohms. Nothing crazy really and yeah......


So it's pretty nifty in that regard thanks to that.

No

 

[VonBonfire]

Nah, the whole point with a deluxe is cranking it out of clean headroom for the gain tones (generally for playing old school punk or grunge) and getting it to give up the goods at a volume that works if your drummer is a bitch

Agreed but I only hire bitch drummer's one time. A deluxe would've worked great last night and completely come unglued tonight.

6v6 amps can be just as reliable as anything else, it depends on the maker and the circuit - the modern fender reissues? yeah, they are poorly made and unreliable

I've seen more deluxes go down on gigs than any other amp. Granted, most people don't take good care of their stuff. If I was using one regularly I would probably change power tubes every year for that reason. I got over 5 years of my last quad of JJ 6L6's. Granted they were pretty toasted but they were still working.

 

[DanTravis62]

I've seen more deluxes go down on gigs than any other amp. Granted, most people don't take good care of their stuff. If I was using one regularly I would probably change power tubes every year for that reason. I got over 5 years of my last quad of JJ 6L6's. Granted they were pretty toasted but they were still working.

Part of that is likely that they are more popular than any other amp (especially for the TGP crowd)

But yes, DRRIs are absolutely notorious and infamous for that

Psionic audio does a deep dive on them and why they are so famously unreliable

It's nothing inherent to 6v6 tubes though, just the fact that DRRIs and Princetons are the most common of the 6v6 tube amps + they have extreme reliability problems because of a couple of design flaws and cheaping out on a couple of crucial components

 

[DanTravis62]

Agreed but I only hire bitch drummer's one time. A deluxe would've worked great last night and completely come unglued tonight.

Yeah it's nowhere near enough amp for me either. A princeton would be absolutely laughable.

I assume (from what people say collectively) that if you are playing music where the drummer doesn't hit very hard, or you have 20 grand worth of PA around it, ithey're great apparently

 

[VonBonfire]

Yeah it's nowhere near enough amp for me either. A princeton would be absolutely laughable.

100% agreed. It was a kid's practice amp then, it's still a kid's practice amp AFAIC. I can't believe they are trying to get nearly $1600 bucks for one. How many killer vintage Fenders become options at that price range? Most of them.

I assume (from what people say collectively) that if you are playing music where the drummer doesn't hit very hard, or you have 20 grand worth of PA around it, ithey're great apparently

I still wouldn't use one. A Deluxe is still the better choice in that situation IMO.

 

[The~Kid]

I actually had a Super Sonic 60 before this and a Blues Deluxe and would crank the shit out of them all the time....


Great amps but I mean here with a 12 it aint bad and it gets plenty loud and the tone is like nothing else.

Robben Ford seems to keep up with a full band and then some no problem with a Princeton *_*

 

[DanTravis62]

I still wouldn't use one. A Deluxe is still the better choice in that situation IMO.

I agree. I can only see the princeton being the right choice if it's more of a home practice amp or living room "fuck around" amp like phil from know your gear uses it

 

[VonBonfire]

Robben Ford seems to keep up with a full band and then some no problem with a Princeton *_*

I only see a Fender head in the background. That is not a very loud band. If you are doing hammers/pull offs for a lot of lead work you need a louder amp to get on top of the band. He's not really playing like that here, it's almost all flat picked notes so it works. Plus he's mic'ed in a studio anyways...

 

[The~Kid]

I only see a Fender head in the background. That is not a very loud band. If you are doing hammers/pull offs for a lot of lead work you need a louder amp to get on top of the band. He's not really playing like that here, it's almost all flat picked notes so it works. Plus he's mic'ed in a studio anyways...

It sounds good and works for Robben Ford though *_*

 

[Texsunburst59]

I still say Princeton for the win,

I don’t want to lug around heavy amps and can get it mic’d for FOH, and get a little in the stage monitor if needed.

Like said in my earlier post , I used mine all all types of of stage applications, big or small with no issues, and it always sounded great.