Floyd rose 1000’s. Junk!!!

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napalmdeath said:
It's debatable. They're workable, yes, I've had many. The fine tuners are stiff, sometimes wonky, and sometimes junk. They hold tune. But I've had some real shitty ones. Consistently good, they are not.
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I believe there are a few reason why here.
1 it’s cheaper steel will produce metal shavings
2 if the studs aren’t at the correct distance apart they bind the base

This is why it’s so important to relieve string tension and actually pull the Floyd away from the studs when adjusting height because if you grind on those knife edges your Floyd and guitar is now phucked.


Here is a challenge to all the guys that says they’ve never had an issue.
Plug into a tuner and make sure your in tune. Now dive bomb. Let the Floyd return by itself. Recheck tuning.
Pull back on the bar and check again.

When I dive my tuning goes a few cents short. If I gently pull back it goes right back in tune. That tells me it’s binding up.

String have been on there a few day and stretched nicely. They hold tuning.
Changed springs no change. Made sure it’s level low e to high e no change. Level with body. Checked the studs and they look new. The knife edge looks good. No slivers of metal anywhere. It refuses to return to “home position “ without a nudge.
 
Like others have said - it MUST be level with the strings, when it was adjusted (if ever) it needs to have been done without string tension and if you just got it, or did a string change you still have to stretch the strings. And if it's new these things do have a bit of a break-in period, work that puppy.
 
Warmart said:
Like others have said - it MUST be level with the strings, when it was adjusted (if ever) it needs to have been done without string tension and if you just got it, or did a string change you still have to stretch the strings. And if it's new these things do have a bit of a break-in period, work that puppy.
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Did all that
 
Take the trem off and check out the studs/posts. If there's any wiggle, then that will directly translate into tuning stability issues 100% of the time. Cheaper licensed Floyds have coarse threaded posts, which are garbage. Higher end ones (like Gotoh) have fine threaded posts which are very sturdy. Knife edges may need to be inspected as well.
 
I have had them for many years and not really had any issues other than needing to replace the bar because the stock collar comes unscrewed all the time.
 
gtrwun said:
LP’s are notorious for tuning issues.
I’ve never heard anyone say they prefer a FLoYD for tuning stability? I guess if you don’t mind the string change hassles?
I’d much rather have a vintage Fender or Charvel trem.
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I don't get this at all, I've owned LPs forever, and I never have any problems. I read an article in Guitar Player magazine back in the 80s about how to wind strings when you change them, always tuning up to pitch (never down) and giving the stings a few jerks on the way up to pitch, works EVERY time. People are quick to replace the tuning pegs on LPs, but the stock ones work fine. Its all in the setup.
 
Maybe these newer 1000s are not the same quality as the versions from 08/09? Lots of gigs, no issues….but I do block my trems so maybe that’s why I’ve never had an issue
 
tpruitt said:
Why is it these damn cheap azz Floyd 1000’s never go back in tune if you move them. Even when there brand new.
I’m no rookie. I always make sure theres no tension when I adjust the studs so that ain’t it. Sorry about the rant. I’m just pulling my hair out over these junk things
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When you put new strings on- do you only tune UP to pitch ? Do you jerk the stings until ALL the slack is out before you lock it down ?
 
paulyc said:
I don't get this at all, I've owned LPs forever, and I never have any problems. I read an article in Guitar Player magazine back in the 80s about how to wind strings when you change them, always tuning up to pitch (never down) and giving the stings a few jerks on the way up to pitch, works EVERY time. People are quick to replace the tuning pegs on LPs, but the stock ones work fine. Its all in the setup.
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Agreed, my gibsons rarely have tuning issues. Trem guitars give me more trouble.
 
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I've never had a 1000 but even the Floyd Rose Special on my Warmoth build stays in tune great
 
paulyc said:
When you put new strings on- do you only tune UP to pitch ? Do you jerk the stings until ALL the slack is out before you lock it down ?
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Yes I tug on the string a few times before clamping and fine tuning. I don’t have this issue with original Floyd’s and most specials.
 
Racerxrated said:
Maybe these newer 1000s are not the same quality as the versions from 08/09? Lots of gigs, no issues….but I do block my trems so maybe that’s why I’ve never had an issue
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I have a few 08/09 charvels but I rest the Floyd’s on the bodies. I never have and issue because it pulls it back to the body every time.
 
Pull each string block off and make sure the hinge moves freely. Use a small amount of penetrating oil if necessary.
 
sahlomonic said:
Take the trem off and check out the studs/posts. If there's any wiggle, then that will directly translate into tuning stability issues 100% of the time. Cheaper licensed Floyds have coarse threaded posts, which are garbage. Higher end ones (like Gotoh) have fine threaded posts which are very sturdy. Knife edges may need to be inspected as well.
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I’ve done all that. These posts look new. They’ve never been turned with the Floyd against them.
 
Geo said:
Pull each string block off and make sure the hinge moves freely. Use a small amount of penetrating oil if necessary.
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If I dive bomb each string goes a few cents down(still in tune with each other).so if I hit a cord it sounds perfect but on a tuner I’m down a little. Once I pull it back a little all strings are right back in perfect tune.
There’s no string stretching or anything off. It’s in tune. Just not at the key I tuned to. Once I pull up so slightly it’s in the right key again. The whole baseplate does not return to home position. It’s definitely binding The knife edge is junk It’s pot metal and not hardened like an ofr
 
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