Gassing for a Peters 3chan...

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My god I thought I was past all of this lusting after gear but the Peters amps are gonna make me go apeshit. Three chan w/ Flying Spaghetti Monster Rhythm, FSM Lead, and Halo clean seems like it would be perfect. The price of admission is high but for a hand built amp it's not that bad at all. And turn around time is appropriately 4 weeks plus shipping. You can't beat that.
Now I've just got to save up about another 28 hundred bucks and we'll be in business.

Anyone have Peters amp stories to share and tide me over til I can pull the trigger??
 
Skip the clean channel and you can save some money.
 
godgrinder":2q5jz0ay said:
Skip the clean channel and you can save some money.


Nah, gotta have a clean to go with the mean. It's like the holy grail of amps, a beast gain channel and a chimey Fenderesque clean.
 
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Nope, no Peters stories here!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I have some stories of peters amps, my favorite amp of all time, period. I have 2 triples, one is for sale. Why? Cause every amp I own I make them sound the same. I am always after the same sound, and I have it with my Peters triple.

I have a Halo/Vega/FSM and a Halo/Regulus/GNL. The later I opted to sell, they can achieve the same sounds but the FSM gets a bit heavier, wich I favor as we play pretty heavy stuff. Keep in mind I am really downsizing my gear collection, as I would not be selling it. Went from 10 amps down to 5, and counting.

Anyways, the Peters is very dynamic, punchy, aggressive (6550 tubes) and smooth at the same time. The Halo channel is so versatile, from crystal clear to fat and warm to overdrive. Love that channel and I would not skip it, so worth it. Volume control is very responsive, from full on gain to cleans without loosing body and does not shrill out.

Best amp I've had yet, and is had a lot of amps.

Chris
 
I've got a 50-watt Hydra and a 100-watt Halo/GNL. I like 'em both a lot. Better than many of the other high-gainers I've had in the past (like Uberschall, VH4, Einstein, Dual Rectifier, Hot Cat, Fortin Bones). But I think I'd like to trade in my GNL for a 50-watt FSM. The GNL is pretty great though.

OP, why are you wanting a 3-channel with 2 of the channels being the same?
 
My Peters amps ended all other amp GAS for me.
The only thing I still lust for is a triple channel Peters with the Hydra as a lead channel.
 
FourT6and2":253348zt said:
I've got a 50-watt Hydra and a 100-watt Halo/GNL. I like 'em both a lot. Better than many of the other high-gainers I've had in the past (like Uberschall, VH4, Einstein, Dual Rectifier, Hot Cat, Fortin Bones). But I think I'd like to trade in my GNL for a 50-watt FSM. The GNL is pretty great though.

OP, why are you wanting a 3-channel with 2 of the channels being the same?

This is from the Peters website:
The Professional Series triple channel amps can be built with the following channel configurations (with more options as of April 2016):

High gain R / High gain L / Clean (Rhythm and Lead variants of the same high gain design plus a clean channel, for instance FSM Rhythm / FSM Lead / Halo)
<snip>
Lead variants of each design have fatter mids, slightly less focused attack, and sound a bit smoother overall. Rhythm variants are considered to be the normal versions when compared to previous Peters designs. The amount of gain in the Rhythm and Lead variants is the same for each design; it’s the voicing and feel that are changed for the Lead variant, not the gain level.
<snip>

I'm more or less in boner-town thinking about it but, as I'm still in the money scrounging phase of my sickness, I haven't made any set in stone decisions about it.
 
Interesting. I guess that's all relatively new then. Cool :)
 
Had a hydra,vega,and gryphon go thru the room so far. Recently got a FSM which was the one I really wanted(tho the chimera was also on the short list). All of them were acquired from this forum from good friends.

They are all very dynamic amps with great feel. The 50watt hydra was great,but the 100watt vega/gryphon was better. The 100watt FSM is the best one so far for me.
 
7 Stringer":ll5ff3rj said:
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Nope, no Peters stories here!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I have some stories of peters amps, my favorite amp of all time, period. I have 2 triples, one is for sale. Why? Cause every amp I own I make them sound the same. I am always after the same sound, and I have it with my Peters triple.

I have a Halo/Vega/FSM and a Halo/Regulus/GNL. The later I opted to sell, they can achieve the same sounds but the FSM gets a bit heavier, wich I favor as we play pretty heavy stuff. Keep in mind I am really downsizing my gear collection, as I would not be selling it. Went from 10 amps down to 5, and counting.

Anyways, the Peters is very dynamic, punchy, aggressive (6550 tubes) and smooth at the same time. The Halo channel is so versatile, from crystal clear to fat and warm to overdrive. Love that channel and I would not skip it, so worth it. Volume control is very responsive, from full on gain to cleans without loosing body and does not shrill out.

Best amp I've had yet, and is had a lot of amps.

Chris

I've been going back and forth on whether I should go for the FSM or not. My concern is that it might be too modern, djenty and uncompressed - but I like the heavy grind and I'm really leaning that way.

What cabs are you all putting your amps through? I'm currently running through a VHT FatBottom 412 and it's been my go to cab for many many years. How do you all think they would pair up??
 
Oblivion DC":2am5xopk said:
Nah, gotta have a clean to go with the mean. It's like the holy grail of amps, a beast gain channel and a chimey Fenderesque clean.

None of my bands have passage that needs pristine cleans and I've yet to come across a clean channel in a 3-4 channel amp that can rival a basic single channel clean amp, but YMMV. The Halo channel sounds fine nevertheless.

I have a FSM/Chimera 2 channel preamp. The FSM has a modern/smooth gain structure like Engl but without sounding polite and cold (some might say sterile) like most Engls, it's hot and open sounding.

The Chimera is thick/throaty but still very dynamic and open, very pissed off and punchy sounding. Sort of like a cross between a Pittbull and a Recto, these 2 amps are on the 2 extreme tonal polars but the Chimera seem to blend the best parts of both. A bit sad to see that it has been discontinued. It's perfect for angry sludge metal with hardcore overtones (say Eyehategod or mid-era Neurosis) or sleazy death metal (Autopsy, Obituary etc). But I guess musicians that play these music are usually not in the market of expensive amps.

I've been thinking about getting a Vega/Regulus 2 channel but haven't got around doing it yet.

However for the channels you pick you're probably not getting a lot of range out of it (especially for the price you pay for a 3 channel). If I'm ordering my first Peters now I'd probably get FSM rhythm and Vega lead.
 
godgrinder":1coefuc7 said:
The Chimera is thick/throaty but still very dynamic and open, very pissed off and punchy sounding. Sort of like a cross between a Pittbull and a Recto, these 2 amps are on the 2 extreme tonal polars but the Chimera seem to blend the best parts of both. A bit sad to see that it has been discontinued. It's perfect for angry sludge metal with hardcore overtones (say Eyehategod or mid-era Neurosis) or sleazy death metal (Autopsy, Obituary etc). But I guess musicians that play these music are usually not in the market of expensive amps.

I updated my site this morning adding a new design, CSM, to the lineup. It has the basic sound/feel of the Chimera but with the somewhat tighter attack/lows of the FSM.

The Chimera was misunderstood for a long time. In 2007 it was my most aggressive sounding design, back before my designs had both crunch and edge switches (and before the Gryphon got a bit more aggressive too). People seem to remember "the Chimera is the most aggressive Peters design" to this day even though that's not accurate anymore (especially as of 2011 when the FSM was introduced). That's difficult for me to overcome, explaining that the FSM is a better choice with tighter attack and lows. Almost no one wanted the Chimera for what it really was--effectively a somewhat more classic/lower-gain and looser/more raw FSM. It's not as though the Chimera was too loose sounding to everyone who bought it, but a few people were disappointed with it for that reason despite my explaining the Chimera as best I could. Whether an amp sounds "tight enough or not" is a make-or-break thing and I can't afford to take the chance that the buyer will be upset with it.

On the other hand, the Chimera had something my other designs didn't. When I discontinued it, I had a couple owners contact me to urge me to leave it in the lineup. One even played it over the phone, he was so happy with it (not that it helped me hear how good it sounded because, well, telephone quality being what it is...) :) Over the last couple days I thought about it, and came up with the CSM. So if someone really thinks they want a Chimera, I'd be glad to make the CSM for them.

The Hydra was a similar story. It's fatter than most people really want it to be. They'll find a clip of someone playing it (with a very specific setting and setup meant to get the sharpest attack from it) saying "I want this sound" and I'd try to explain how the FSM was actually better suited to that. :) Once I tried my new "dual overdrive channel" approach of rhythm/lead versions of each design, I realized the FSM Lead variant was pretty close to the Hydra, and a better choice for most people asking about the Hydra. That was a no-brainer.

Oblivion DC":1coefuc7 said:
I've been going back and forth on whether I should go for the FSM or not. My concern is that it might be too modern, djenty and uncompressed - but I like the heavy grind and I'm really leaning that way.

I don't make anything "too djenty". All my designs have a strong blend of more classic Marshall character/feel in them; none are "too compressed" or "too tight" (unless you just don't like modern high gain). You could use the FSM for djent with the right settings, but it's not aimed at that sort of thing. It only has enough compression to fall into the modern-high-gain category that people recognize these days. If you've played a number of modern high gain amps with significant compression, the FSM will feel "uncompressed" by comparison. Technically all high gain amps have compression, so when I say "the FSM has just enough compression" I do *not* mean it's a very compressed amp. :)

This goes back to the Chimera story. I'd sometimes get people asking about the Chimera but scared to get the FSM. Anyway now there's the CSM...if you're the sort of person who wants a bit more classic sound/feel yet. I doubt it though. Everyone I've recommended the FSM to has been happy with it, to my knowledge. I'd be glad to talk with you about it anyway.

And thanks to everyone for the kind words! I'm very glad my amps are still appreciated.
 
JamesPeters":168lncxx said:
godgrinder":168lncxx said:
The Chimera is thick/throaty but still very dynamic and open, very pissed off and punchy sounding. Sort of like a cross between a Pittbull and a Recto, these 2 amps are on the 2 extreme tonal polars but the Chimera seem to blend the best parts of both. A bit sad to see that it has been discontinued. It's perfect for angry sludge metal with hardcore overtones (say Eyehategod or mid-era Neurosis) or sleazy death metal (Autopsy, Obituary etc). But I guess musicians that play these music are usually not in the market of expensive amps.

I updated my site this morning adding a new design, CSM, to the lineup. It has the basic sound/feel of the Chimera but with the somewhat tighter attack/lows of the FSM.

The Chimera was misunderstood for a long time. In 2007 it was my most aggressive sounding design, back before my designs had both crunch and edge switches (and before the Gryphon got a bit more aggressive too). People seem to remember "the Chimera is the most aggressive Peters design" to this day even though that's not accurate anymore (especially as of 2011 when the FSM was introduced). That's difficult for me to overcome, explaining that the FSM is a better choice with tighter attack and lows. Almost no one wanted the Chimera for what it really was--effectively a somewhat more classic/lower-gain and looser/more raw FSM. It's not as though the Chimera was too loose sounding to everyone who bought it, but a few people were disappointed with it for that reason despite my explaining the Chimera as best I could. Whether an amp sounds "tight enough or not" is a make-or-break thing and I can't afford to take the chance that the buyer will be upset with it.

On the other hand, the Chimera had something my other designs didn't. When I discontinued it, I had a couple owners contact me to urge me to leave it in the lineup. One even played it over the phone, he was so happy with it (not that it helped me hear how good it sounded because, well, telephone quality being what it is...) :) Over the last couple days I thought about it, and came up with the CSM. So if someone really thinks they want a Chimera, I'd be glad to make the CSM for them.

The Hydra was a similar story. It's fatter than most people really want it to be. They'll find a clip of someone playing it (with a very specific setting and setup meant to get the sharpest attack from it) saying "I want this sound" and I'd try to explain how the FSM was actually better suited to that. :) Once I tried my new "dual overdrive channel" approach of rhythm/lead versions of each design, I realized the FSM Lead variant was pretty close to the Hydra, and a better choice for most people asking about the Hydra. That was a no-brainer.

Oblivion DC":168lncxx said:
I've been going back and forth on whether I should go for the FSM or not. My concern is that it might be too modern, djenty and uncompressed - but I like the heavy grind and I'm really leaning that way.

I don't make anything "too djenty". All my designs have a strong blend of more classic Marshall character/feel in them; none are "too compressed" or "too tight" (unless you just don't like modern high gain). You could use the FSM for djent with the right settings, but it's not aimed at that sort of thing. It only has enough compression to fall into the modern-high-gain category that people recognize these days. If you've played a number of modern high gain amps with significant compression, the FSM will feel "uncompressed" by comparison. Technically all high gain amps have compression, so when I say "the FSM has just enough compression" I do *not* mean it's a very compressed amp. :)

This goes back to the Chimera story. I'd sometimes get people asking about the Chimera but scared to get the FSM. Anyway now there's the CSM...if you're the sort of person who wants a bit more classic sound/feel yet. I doubt it though. Everyone I've recommended the FSM to has been happy with it, to my knowledge. I'd be glad to talk with you about it anyway.

And thanks to everyone for the kind words! I'm very glad my amps are still appreciated.

Thanks James! I'll definitely talk to you before I decide on what I want, I just don't want to waste your time until I have the money in hand.
 
I really want to try the FSM. But I have 5 amps at the moment. And one or two have to go before I get another haha
 
More good comments about James and his amps here! As you can see here he is very helpful and informative, and that carries over to when you interact with him over the phone or by email.

I have a Hydra/FSM/Halo. Based on the new channel descriptions, it may be close to the configuration you are looking at. I'd go for it. Even though the FSM and Hydra are both high gain channels, I can dial them in differently and they both have different voicing/responses. But are still in the same tonal family, so transition well to/from each other.

Among the amps I've played through the FSM is the favorite. I keep coming back to it, and find it to be very versatile. I often keep the gain low and cover a lot of ground with it. A friend and I A/B'd the channels against a very well regarded and expensive high gain amp. That amp shall remain nameless. The Peters won for both of us.

The build quality is excellent as well, and it's great having external bias measurement and control! Good luck in your hunt and let us know what you end up with.
 
guitarobert":7sz82vgo said:
More good comments about James and his amps here! As you can see here he is very helpful and informative, and that carries over to when you interact with him over the phone or by email.

I have a Hydra/FSM/Halo. Based on the new channel descriptions, it may be close to the configuration you are looking at. I'd go for it. Even though the FSM and Hydra are both high gain channels, I can dial them in differently and they both have different voicing/responses. But are still in the same tonal family, so transition well to/from each other.

Among the amps I've played through the FSM is the favorite. I keep coming back to it, and find it to be very versatile. I often keep the gain low and cover a lot of ground with it. A friend and I A/B'd the channels against a very well regarded and expensive high gain amp. That amp shall remain nameless. The Peters won for both of us.

The build quality is excellent as well, and it's great having external bias measurement and control! Good luck in your hunt and let us know what you end up with.

So many positive things get said about the man it boggles the mind. I have yet to hear anything negative and that's definitely a confidence booster. I'll be sure to keep everyone informed on what I finally get - there's gonna be unboxing vids, mad riffing vids and enough midget porn to keep everyone satisfied.

How do you all like the effects loop? I'm assuming that it's a series loop and not parallel. Educate me if I'm incorrect please.
 
The two of the same channels for rhythm/lead thing is basically what the JP2C has, and, I actually wouldn't mind have something like that myself.
 
Anyone have pictures they can post of the back of their amp?
 
Oblivion DC":25w6irdy said:
Anyone have pictures they can post of the back of their amp?

Look in my for-sale thread. Also on Peters' website...
 
FourT6and2":2ndm2ah7 said:
Oblivion DC":2ndm2ah7 said:
Anyone have pictures they can post of the back of their amp?

Look in my for-sale thread. Also on Peters' website...

Thanks man!
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Quick question: am I seeing cassis mounted tube sockets in this picture??
 
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