Heavier strings sound better; it's a scientific fact.

[bonedarrell]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

 

[Zachman]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

 

[soc_monki]

i used to use pretty heavy gauges...10-17 on the highs, 34-44-54 on the lows. sometimes i played around with different sizes, but you get the idea. standard tuning, strat scale btw. after years of abuse (computer, dirt bikes, mountain bikes...) ive pretty much wrecked my wrists. started playing with my buddy who uses 11-49s tuned to B standard. at first i was like "whoa!" and now i enjoy it. takes getting used to, but its like 9s or so in standard. i use 9-46 on my standard to D standard axes, anything lower goes 11-49. one thing i can say, when i swapped to lighter strings i immediately heard a tone difference. not better or worse. just different. it seemed the lighter strings actually had more clarity to my ears, a tighter, more articulate tone. heavier strings had a thicker, darker, less articulate tone.

i can tell you, i do miss beating the crap out of heavy strings, but my wrists thank me for going lighter. i guess its kinda like the dude from Incubus. used 13's and destroyed his wrists, he even had surgery. now he uses 9's because he has to. im not gonna quit playing, but im going to make it more comfortable thats for sure!

and damn...Telephant in the house! nice to see you around bro!

 

[Chubtone]

Yet to some (me) One's "badass" is another's (mine) yawn.

Does it help or hurt your argument that I think you are a pretty badass player yourself?

 

[bonedarrell]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

 

[carlygtr]

Yet to some (me) One's "badass" is another's (mine) yawn.

Does it help or hurt your argument that I think you are a pretty badass player yourself?

It doesn't matter Was a troll post anyway. There are so many guys that got huge tone with light strings.

 

[Anonymous]

This whole "$300 pickup ring" thing is so fucking boring. No one said they made their guitar sound better, no one said it made them a better person, nothing of the sort. Some felt it necessary to voice their thought that it is a completely ridiculous "corksniffer" expenditure and then it devolved into this whole "it doesn't make your tone better" and "people who spend all this money can't play" and whatever other bullshit. So stupid...

There are people who spend tons of money on gear and can't play, some also are very opinionated on the ONLY way to get good tone. Some people spend hardly any money on gear and can play their asses off. Some people spend tons of money on gear and can play their asses off. Some people are mediocre and spend a moderate amount of money on gear. Some people play great and have bad attitudes. I fail to understand how any of this matters, but please, let's go on debating it...

You're all boring me to death with his crap. Anyone got anything interesting to talk about? There's a thread on Steve Hunter. What do you think of his playing? I posted a cool clip of his playing that I bet a lot of people have never heard that they might dig... Or we could just continue debating how people decide to spend their money... and whether they play well enough to justify it (as if that matters in the least)...

Steve

 

['63-Strat]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

What is the deal with these pickup rings you're talking about?

 

[Anonymous]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

What is the deal with these pickup rings you're talking about?

Here ya go:

Authentic M-69 50s pickup rings

Some folks are VERY concerned about what others do with their money and want to tell them how ridiculous they are...

Steve

 

[bonedarrell]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

What is the deal with these pickup rings you're talking about?

All things considered, this is best done as a private condo....PM sent

 

[Audioholic]

I would think pickups, pickup height, amp settings and so forth all will determine the overall sound and which gauge would sound best per variants, but I prefer 10's in feel, 9's just feel too plinky

 

[Zachman]

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

No worries, Darrell. Personally, I like knowing who is giving advice, before deciding to take their pov and opinions to heart. The qualifier, as I see it, only serves to establish common ground and understanding between those conversing.

As to an appreciation for the finer things, and the ability to indulge-- the value therein, or not-- is individual and will vary more often than not if the two conversing aren't coming from a common ground.. If one can afford to indulge their whims, I say that's GREAT!!!

The red calipers don't affect the tone of the exhaust at all. They also don't allow me to drive like Valentino Balboni, or Schumaker, but the driving experience is still fun, so I can see both sides.

 

[stephen sawall]

Strings - it's a crazy world.

 

[Zachman]

Strings - it's a crazy world.

Ya, mustard vs ketchup--

 

[guitarobert]

Light strings and a heavy pick. That's the best tone and playability epiphany I had in the past several years.

I used to think heavy strings sounded better. But noticed that several of my favorite players used light strings. So I gave it a try, and have never looked back since. Easier to play and sounds more clear. When in standard E on a short scale guitar it's 10s for me.

 

[tubortski]

I use boiled 9's for standard tuning. Lower tunings get a more "Kroeger" type gauge...

 

[Deleted member 8761]

That is some nice penis enlargement, if it is your car.

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

No worries, Darrell. Personally, I like knowing who is giving advice, before deciding to take their pov and opinions to heart. The qualifier, as I see it, only serves to establish common ground and understanding between those conversing.

As to an appreciation for the finer things, and the ability to indulge-- the value therein, or not-- is individual and will vary more often than not if the two conversing aren't coming from a common ground.. If one can afford to indulge their whims, I say that's GREAT!!!

The red calipers don't affect the tone of the exhaust at all. They also don't allow me to drive like Valentino Balboni, or Schumaker, but the driving experience is still fun, so I can see both sides.

 

[Zachman]

It ain't the wand, it's the magician that does the trick.

That is some nice penis enlargement, if it is your car.

Dudes who make statements like this are usually poor players. Course I can make blanketed statements too. How about this one: Guys who spend $300 on pickup rings thinking its gonna make a difference in their tone or make up for their lack of skill are posers.

Dudes that draw idiotic conclusions like this are usually "Kroegers."

Nobody has made one claim that the purchase of rings improve tone. That is such a tired and idiotic comment

If you cant see the irony in dudes spending exhorbitant amount of money on shit like that while also being awful guitar players then I don't know what to tell you.


Then again maybe you're exactly the type of person I'm talking about.

The ignorance (not irony) is the assumption that people that buy these types of items are lacking in their playing skills. This is what I consider to be the idiotic assumption.

I bought these rings, so it is your assumtion that I am an aweful guitar player that is trying to make up for my lack of talent? How can anybody claim that is an educated comment when you have never heard me or anybody else that has "pissed away" money play??

It appears to me that the general observations of many-- that there are those with more money than talent, and that it isn't exactly an UNcommon or unrecognized phenomenon, is a valid observation.

It also makes an assumption, on your part, that Telephant, nor anyone else taking issue-- has ever heard anyone who has pissed away money, play with a level of skill typically associated w/ mediocrity. I know I have seen many collectors spend fortunes on gear, and that doesn't translate to skill.

Just because you or anyone else can afford an Enzo Ferrari, doesn't translate to them being able to drive with any skill

The only facts so far, are that the original premise of the thread is wrong, and that you haven't posted any evidence as to your skill level, (Doesn't really matter)-- and that Telephant can and does play well.

My $.02

I make no assumptions here my friend. I just am taking telephant at his word. I understand the point that he is trying to make. That doesn't make it valid. Not one person, that I have seen, has made the ridiculous claim that owning an Enzo translates into improved driving skills or that owning a 10K guitar or $300 rings translates into improved guitar skills. I have seen many players at all different skill levels regardless of their gear, good or bad...

I don't see the value in stereotyping anybody's skills (or their impression of) based on gear??

I have seen people think they are badass because they have the best gear and I have seen people think they are badass and have shit for gear, but good looks or cool clothing etc....... There is nothing that supports any conclusion with any of this?? I find it comical that people get pissed off or irritated thinking that somebody "might think they are better because they spent more money on gear." At the end of the day, who gives a shit how somebody else perceives "themselves?"

I would consider myself a good guitar player. Not "badass" by any means. I can assure everybody that I certainly don't think that because I can afford a 10K guitar and/or $235 dollar rings that I am a better player or getting better tone? That is such a goofy notion? I didn't start a thread about those rings to brag about what I spent (although everybody assumes that I paid $235 if anything at all.....that is between Tom and me.) Tom is a nice guy....so you can probably guess the math here. Anyway, I just bought one of his guitars that didn't have his most recent rings on it, so I wanted a set and thought they would look better on my guitar. Tom did the right thing by me. He asked if I would be kind enough to spread the word, so I obliged. I posted the exact same thing on MLP and didn't receive one disparaging comment FYI.

I have seen many people on these forums boast about gear and varying levels of price and never assumed, "That dude must really think he is cool now for buying ".........."???

So let me summarize......I make good money and can buy things that some can't (I don't think I am better than them)....there are people that earn more than me and can buy more than me (I don't think they are better than me and don't give a shit if the think they are).....sometimes I make smart purchases and sometimes I make not so wise purchases......BUT IT"S MY FUCKING MONEY!!

No worries, Darrell. Personally, I like knowing who is giving advice, before deciding to take their pov and opinions to heart. The qualifier, as I see it, only serves to establish common ground and understanding between those conversing.

As to an appreciation for the finer things, and the ability to indulge-- the value therein, or not-- is individual and will vary more often than not if the two conversing aren't coming from a common ground.. If one can afford to indulge their whims, I say that's GREAT!!!

The red calipers don't affect the tone of the exhaust at all. They also don't allow me to drive like Valentino Balboni, or Schumaker, but the driving experience is still fun, so I can see both sides.

 

[Spaceboy]

I apparently play goddamn hard, so heavy, tighter strings are a necessity or else I sound out of time. I never really break strings despite people telling me I play hard though.

 

[garey77]

9-46's for me. I also used 10-52 gauge strings for years. I started to notice my wrists and fingers would be way more fatigued w/ 10's and 11's, especially after the 4+ hour practice sessions. I went back down to 9-42's for a while, but there just wasn't enough to grab onto in the low strings, like the heftier gauge string sets.