Help, did I just fry my OT using the Boss Waza TAE or tubes?

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fusedbrain":3ns3b69y said:
Goat":3ns3b69y said:
fusedbrain":3ns3b69y said:
Goat":3ns3b69y said:
What's with the attenuator? Does your Wizard MTL not have a MV?
On the lead channel of the MTL, after the master volume, the signal flows through 2 triode stages to a plate fed tone stack.
If you don't get the master vol level up, the amp does not sound it's best.
If the amp has a loop, the loop is after the tonestack, and there may be a return volume control. ( I think Rick has had a few versions of his loop )
Use the return volume as the master, or insert some other device to attenuate signal in the loop, and turn the channel master up.
Amp will sound :rock:
If no loop, then you have to live with either thin tone at low volume, or the db's. ( or use attenuator / load box )
That's a fucked-up way to design a circuit. I once had an amp that was designed similarly, though I don't recall what it was? Increasing the MV would increase the effects input level... May have been a Bogner? Boogie? Bedrock?
Rick designed his circuits to be used in arenas / stadiums, not basements and bedrooms.
Apparently, newer versions have better low level tones, but Wizard circuit DNA is intended to be played LOUD
Should also have noted that the Wizard loops I have seen that have the return level control, also have a send level control.
My 2016 MCII has this loop design. ( MCII lead channel is similar to MTL design, but only one triode between master vol & TS)
Unfortunately, the version of the loop in my amp sucks tone, so ...... it gets played loud :D
Newer Wizard loop designs may be better in this regard :dunno:
Does Wizard offer a no loop option? That's what I'd go for.
 
fusedbrain":3cg4037b said:
Goat":3cg4037b said:
What's with the attenuator? Does your Wizard MTL not have a MV?
On the lead channel of the MTL, after the master volume, the signal flows through 2 triode stages to a plate fed tone stack.
If you don't get the master vol level up, the amp does not sound it's best.
If the amp has a loop, the loop is after the tonestack, and there may be a return volume control. ( I think Rick has had a few versions of his loop )
Use the return volume as the master, or insert some other device to attenuate signal in the loop, and turn the channel master up.
Amp will sound :rock:
If no loop, then you have to live with either thin tone at low volume, or the db's. ( or use attenuator / load box )

I'm no amp expert, but I looked up the MTL schematic and it's pretty interesting. Kinda has three gain knobs? (lead gain, saturation, and lead master), but not what I would have thought to be a normal master volume for the lead channel.
 
Thanks for the well wishes, taking it to a trusted amp tech on Monday. :dunno: Would rather not completely jack this up and learn on something less expensive and valuable to me.
 
It would be great to hear how this worked out. Did you blow an OT? Was the TAE defective?
 
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