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krta-lakshanah
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im not judging you, but you are violating orders of Lord Christ, thus what is the meaning of having discussion ?
and fun is you are celebrating thanks giving by killing millions of turkeys, and practically all girls are enjoying sex freely in west, after violating thou shall not adultery.
so what is the meaning of this all hypocrisy ? huh? what you will gain ?
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VonBonfire
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You are ignoring history. Christ ate lamb for the passover meal. Christ drank wine at the passover meal. Your own Hindu people also eat meat, just not beef. It sounds like you have an issue with people who eat beef since a cow is sacred to Hindus, because Hindus worship created things instead of the creator.
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krta-lakshanah
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at that time there was no food, so there is consent for that. but now you have enough food. and order is there as well Thou shall not kill. it is an commendment which are must to be followed if you want to label yourself as Christians.
but you do not follow your own religion, but fun is you want to bring hindus here ? why ? why are you judging others ? while you say that judge not others lest you be judged ? huh ?
why this hypocrisy ? what is the gain ?
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VonBonfire
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At that time there was plenty of food. Passover is a holiday, found in the bible, where you are COMMANDED to slaughter a lamb and prepare ti to eat, so you are way off base my man. You are judging people for eating meat. Hindus eat meat. Maybe it's time to hit the bricks and correct your own people then. As we say in orthodoxy during Lent "worry about what's on your own plate".
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krta-lakshanah
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you pseudo Christians are such rascals. you conjecture Jesus Christ may have eaten fish. Even if it were true—after all, there was little or no other food available at the time. But you rascals think, “Jesus Christ ate fish. Therefore let us maintain big slaughterhouses.”In Bengal they have a story about a man who saw a mosquito and said, “Bring a cannon.”
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Because your forefathers came from England and taught them like this. That is the real fact. India was satisfied, but the Lord Macauley, they said no, that if you keep Indian as Indian, you'll never be able to rule lower down. Cultural conqueror. So they began to teach Indians England's work in India. "Whatever you have got, that is all nonsense. You learn from us." And the first product is Jawaharlal Nehru. This is the misfortune of foreign rule.
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Otherwise, the Christian religion is very nice. but when you do not follow it than where is question of christianity ?
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VonBonfire
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It's in the bible, which is the source you are attempting to use to justify your "killing" remarks. At the time of Christ the Romans were the ruling authorities and food was plentiful. Eating meat isn't condemned anyplace in the bible. All of the bible patriarchs ate meat. Abraham raised flocks of sheep to eat, not for fun and games. He even prepares a slaughtered calf for the angels who visit his tent. He slaughters a ram in place of Isaac as a sacrifice to God. The bible also says "Jacob had a taste for wild game" and sent Esau into the wildnerness to hunt and kill some tasty animals to eat.
You need to do some more research and come back with a little better understanding if you are going to convince anyone your argument is worth taking seriously. You've already started to move towards namecalling i.e "rascals" which shows you lack understanding of what the bible says and instead are looking to tear someone down more than educate. I wouldn't comment in depth on fhe Bhagavad Gita without at least reading it a time or two but it's pretty apparent you have failed to do this with the bible, taking things out of context. You're way off base.
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krta-lakshanah
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well, than why Christ said Thou shall not kill ? huh? and beside that Christian people are having sex like anything too. while the Christ says Thou shall not adultery. what about that ?
did christ said to have illicit sex without any restrictions too in the bible ? and than he says Thou shall not steal and you stolen america from red indians. is there anything in bible for that too ?
than americans are still stealing resources of world with imf and world bank while they label themselves as pseudo christians like you. so if you do not follow your christrian religious principles ( those 10 commandments ) than what is the value of this all farce ? or hypocrisy ?
what would you gain by this all farce ? huh ? and say it frankly like all christians that animals have no soul, because you have to kill. so that this argument would have finished long before.
point out these issues and educate me now with your real facts.
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VonBonfire
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That's your mistranslation, your own incorrect self-understanding. Because Christ dined on lamb and wine at passover. Why would he contradict himself? He wouldn't, and didn't. He even turns water into wine for others to drink at the wedding feast at Cana. You actually remind me of an old school baptist who takes everything out of context and turns it into a legal ruling. No dancing, no drinking. Both of which are self made prohibitions, not bible commandments.
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krta-lakshanah
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nah nah, beside this thou shall not kill, these christians are having sex life anything, point out that too for Christ has said Thou shall not adultery, is there is any excuse for that also in bible ? huh?
tell me why they are having sex like anything ? it is also said Thou shall not adultery, what is your take on that ? why are you avoiding it ? huh?
does bible encourages that as well ? educate me kindly about these things too. and it is clearly given as order Thou shall not adultery, Thou shall not steal, Thou shall not kill etc.
why these 10 commandments are given ? for following ? or uselessly spoken ?
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VonBonfire
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I already commented on all those things. Some people choose to ignore scriptural prohibitions against fornication and adultery and sleep around. Same way you ignore what I have brought up and instead hammer away on the same topics as though I hadn't addressed them three times already. I had pork sausages and eggs this morning. I'm drinking beer tonight. Tomorrow I'm gonna eat a juicy deer steak cut from an animal that I shot and butchered myself. Jesus doesn't hate me for that. In fact, in his glory he has provided it to me as sustenance. I will give thanks and eat. Be blessed.
japetus
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Sir, this is a Wendys.
Dan Gleesak
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Practical Explanation ( For Example ) :- `1st of all can you tell me every single seconds detail from that time when you born ?? ( i need every seconds detail ?? that what- what you have thought and done on every single second )
can you tell me every single detail of your `1 cheapest Minute Or your whole hour, day, week, month, year or your whole life ??
if you are not able to tell me about this life then what proof do you have that you didn't forget your past ? and that you will not forget this present life in the future ?
that is Fact that Supreme Lord Krishna exists but we posses no such intelligence to understand him.
there is also next life. and i already proved you that no scientist, no politician, no so-called intelligent man in this world is able to understand this Truth. cuz they are imagining. and you cannot imagine what is god, who is god, what is after life etc.
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for example :Your father existed before your birth. you cannot say that before your birth your father don,t exists.
So you have to ask from mother, "Who is my father?" And if she says, "This gentleman is your father," then it is all right. It is easy.
Otherwise, if you makes research, "Who is my father?" go on searching for life; you'll never find your father.
( now maybe...maybe you will say that i will search my father from D.N.A, or i will prove it by photo's, or many other thing's which i will get from my mother and prove it that who is my Real father.{ So you have to believe the authority. who is that authority ? she is your mother. you cannot claim of any photo's, D.N.A or many other things without authority ( or ur mother ).
if you will show D.N.A, photo's, and many other proofs from other women then your mother. then what is use of those proofs ??} )
same you have to follow real authority. "Whatever You have spoken, I accept it," Then there is no difficulty. And You are accepted by Devala, Narada, Vyasa, and You are speaking Yourself, and later on, all the acaryas have accepted. Then I'll follow.
I'll have to follow great personalities. The same reason mother says, this gentleman is my father. That's all. Finish business. Where is the necessity of making research? All authorities accept Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. You accept it; then your searching after God is finished.
Why should you waste your time?
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all that is you need is to hear from authority ( same like mother ). and i heard this truth from authority " Srila Prabhupada " he is my spiritual master.
im not talking these all things from my own.
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in this world no `1 can be Peace full. this is all along Fact.
cuz we all are suffering in this world 4 Problems which are Disease, Old age, Death, and Birth after Birth.
tell me are you really happy ?? you can,t be happy if you will ignore these 4 main problem. then still you will be Forced by Nature.
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if you really want to be happy then follow these 6 Things which are No illicit s.ex, No g.ambling, No d.rugs ( No tea & coffee ), No meat-eating ( No onion & garlic's )
5th thing is whatever you eat `1st offer it to Supreme Lord Krishna. ( if you know it what is Guru parama-para then offer them food not direct Supreme Lord Krishna )
and 6th " Main Thing " is you have to Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare ".
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If your not able to follow these 4 things no illicit s.ex, no g.ambling, no d.rugs, no meat-eating then don,t worry but chanting of this holy name ( Hare Krishna Maha-Mantra ) is very-very and very important.
Chant " hare krishna hare krishna krishna krishna hare hare hare rama hare rama rama rama hare hare " and be happy.
if you still don,t believe on me then chant any other name for 5 Min's and chant this holy name for 5 Min's and you will see effect. i promise you it works And chanting at least 16 rounds ( each round of 108 beads ) of the Hare Krishna maha-mantra daily.
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Here is no Question of Holy Books quotes, Personal Experiences, Faith or Belief. i accept that Sometimes Faith is also Blind. Here is already Practical explanation which already proved that every`1 else in this world is nothing more then Busy Foolish and totally idiot.
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every `1 is already Blind in this world and if you will follow another Blind then you both will fall in hole. so try to follow that person who have Spiritual Eyes who can Guide you on Actual Right Path. ( my Authority & Guide is my Spiritual Master " Srila Prabhupada " )
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if you want to see Actual Purpose of human life then see this link : ( triple w ( d . o . t ) asitis ( d . o . t ) c . o . m {Bookmark it })
read it complete. ( i promise only readers of this book that they { he/she } will get every single answer which they want to know about why im in this material world, who im, what will happen after this life, what is best thing which will make Human Life Perfect, and what is perfection of Human Life. ) purpose of human life is not to live like animal cuz every`1 at present time doing 4 thing which are sleeping, eating, s.ex & fear. purpose of human life is to become freed from Birth after birth, Old Age, Disease, and Death.
Does your religion have a stance on moon landings?
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krta-lakshanah
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nah nah, not some it is general thing that western people are mixing or having sex without any restrictions. so what bible teaches us ? did christ also had sex ? or what ?
why are they all violating Thou shall not adultery ? what is the reason ? and than comes thou shall not steal, and you have stolen even such an big america ( it is not some ) that america is too big for some to be stolen.
now educate me with your real facts.
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VonBonfire
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When I went to Berkeley a Hare Krishna on the street handed me a book entitled "easy journey to other planets" so I would say "yes" to your question though I don't think they believe in using rockets to ascend into space, which they still seem to view as "the heavens" same as I do. It's complicated bro, lol.
Dan Gleesak
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Not for drones it’s not
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VonBonfire
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If someone is stealing, fornicating, or committing adultery they are violating scriptural commandments. Kind of like when Hindis butcher their christian neighbors out of hatred they are also violating scriptural commandments. Look at your own society, a caste system, before criticizing those other nations Karma says a child starving to death deserves it because of sins committed in a past life and so shouldn't be helped out of that situation. I can't get on board with that level of backwards thinking.
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krta-lakshanah
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nah nah, they are having sex too like anything in entire usa or entire west upto russia, and they do not follow thou shall not adultery, thou shall not kill, thou shall not steal etc. anything.
you have no concern with Bible and God and everything. you are simply after sense gratification. What is the use of quoting about Bible?you do not go to the church, but you come to us for arguing with Bible. Just see. What is the meaning? your churches have closed, nobody goes, and you come to argue with us with Bible. That means "The Devil cites scripture." you are devils, and you are quoting from Bible.
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VonBonfire
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Well, good luck with all that man.
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krta-lakshanah
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Yeah, why not? That's pretty clear, actually. "Well, we love God. Yes, we love God." A steak and a glass of wine and God.