higher end rack FX processors.

[mentoneman]

lots of info here:

http://g-force.info

 

[RJF]

Holy cow. I guess I'll be busy with this thing for a few months....

One thing I can't figure out is why I can't seem to get the user preset to go past 8. When I bank up on the Ground Control to say, 14, 24, 34, etc, the G Force won't go higher than 8.

 

[mentoneman]

Holy cow. I guess I'll be busy with this thing for a few months....

One thing I can't figure out is why I can't seem to get the user preset to go past 8. When I bank up on the Ground Control to say, 14, 24, 34, etc, the G Force won't go higher than 8.

did you store more than 8 user presets?
can't go higher if only 8 user presets exist

 

[Shask]

Got my TC G Force up and running last and woh..... sound quality is not the same with the G major 2! The G Force sounds much fuller and more 3D, especially the reverbs. It is harder to navigate though, and edit presets, but a small price to pay.

That is interesting that the G Force sounds that much better, but then again, makes sense since it still sells at the price it is vs the G Major.

I have never had either, but have always been curious about the G Major.

That G Force sounds a lot like the Axe-FX, the way you can attach modifiers to different settings. You do the same in the Axe.

 

[RJF]

Holy cow. I guess I'll be busy with this thing for a few months....

One thing I can't figure out is why I can't seem to get the user preset to go past 8. When I bank up on the Ground Control to say, 14, 24, 34, etc, the G Force won't go higher than 8.

did you store more than 8 user presets?
can't go higher if only 8 user presets exist

Figured that out last night. G major2 doesn't do it like that, it will go to whatever preset you want, even if it's empty. I'm starting to get the hang of this thing, somewhat. I've only had it in my possession for about 36hrs so far. I read up on the modifiers and have a bunch to learn. One thing I found difficult last night, was trying to make the flanger sound a little stronger. I had an awesome preset on the GM2 with a pinch of reverb+delay, and a flanger that wasn't over the top, but just added a bit of sparkly, 3D swirly modulation to full chording. Was trying to build a patch just like that on the Force and was having trouble getting that full effect going on. More reading to do!

 

[RJF]

Got my TC G Force up and running last and woh..... sound quality is not the same with the G major 2! The G Force sounds much fuller and more 3D, especially the reverbs. It is harder to navigate though, and edit presets, but a small price to pay.

That is interesting that the G Force sounds that much better, but then again, makes sense since it still sells at the price it is vs the G Major.

I have never had either, but have always been curious about the G Major.

That G Force sounds a lot like the Axe-FX, the way you can attach modifiers to different settings. You do the same in the Axe.

After gettting the G Force, I do have a new appreciation for the GM2. The GM2 is so user friendly, and is not too complicated, it's perfect for a guy like me. LFO's, ADSR's.... I'm like WTF? But, yeah, the G Force does sound better than the GM2, so I will learn this thing, and master it! Even if I don't want to actually dig this deep into parameters.

Having a Monday morning quarterback moment, If TC Electronic could come out with a unit that shared the simplicity of the GM2, but with the sound quality of the GForce, for a cost somewhere in the middle of what these current two are priced at, I'd bet it would sell well.

 

[Shask]

Got my TC G Force up and running last and woh..... sound quality is not the same with the G major 2! The G Force sounds much fuller and more 3D, especially the reverbs. It is harder to navigate though, and edit presets, but a small price to pay.

That is interesting that the G Force sounds that much better, but then again, makes sense since it still sells at the price it is vs the G Major.

I have never had either, but have always been curious about the G Major.

That G Force sounds a lot like the Axe-FX, the way you can attach modifiers to different settings. You do the same in the Axe.

After gettting the G Force, I do have a new appreciation for the GM2. The GM2 is so user friendly, and is not too complicated, it's perfect for a guy like me. LFO's, ADSR's.... I'm like WTF? But, yeah, the G Force does sound better than the GM2, so I will learn this thing, and master it! Even if I don't want to actually dig this deep into parameters.

Having a Monday morning quarterback moment, If TC Electronic could come out with a unit that shared the simplicity of the GM2, but with the sound quality of the GForce, for a cost somewhere in the middle of what these current two are priced at, I'd bet it would sell well.

LOL. I understood those things, but I am also into synths and plugins and such, so you use that stuff a lot for electronic music. They are kind of weird in a guitar processor though.

Some quick tricks, if you attach the ADSR to the volume and raise the attack, you can create swell type effects. Put it first in the chain to simulate swelling on your guitar volume knob. If you attach the envelope input to the wah you can create auto-wah effects. A trick on the older Axe-FX (before they updated to an improved noise gate) was to attach the envelope to a low pass filter. It was set up so that you got full frequency at high envelope (like right after you hit the sting), but it rolled off the high end as your note fades away. That creates a noise gate kind of like the ISP units. It is like a dynamic filter that constantly cuts away all the high frequencies as you dont play. I have never found a use for LFO since the effects it creates usually exist (tremolo, pan, wavy chorus, etc...) but it could work anywhere you want something that oscillates up and down.

I typically never use these in the Axe-FX II, but there are a few of the "common" ideas that they are used for.

 

[RJF]

Got my TC G Force up and running last and woh..... sound quality is not the same with the G major 2! The G Force sounds much fuller and more 3D, especially the reverbs. It is harder to navigate though, and edit presets, but a small price to pay.

That is interesting that the G Force sounds that much better, but then again, makes sense since it still sells at the price it is vs the G Major.

I have never had either, but have always been curious about the G Major.

That G Force sounds a lot like the Axe-FX, the way you can attach modifiers to different settings. You do the same in the Axe.

After gettting the G Force, I do have a new appreciation for the GM2. The GM2 is so user friendly, and is not too complicated, it's perfect for a guy like me. LFO's, ADSR's.... I'm like WTF? But, yeah, the G Force does sound better than the GM2, so I will learn this thing, and master it! Even if I don't want to actually dig this deep into parameters.

Having a Monday morning quarterback moment, If TC Electronic could come out with a unit that shared the simplicity of the GM2, but with the sound quality of the GForce, for a cost somewhere in the middle of what these current two are priced at, I'd bet it would sell well.

LOL. I understood those things, but I am also into synths and plugins and such, so you use that stuff a lot for electronic music. They are kind of weird in a guitar processor though.

Some quick tricks, if you attach the ADSR to the volume and raise the attack, you can create swell type effects. Put it first in the chain to simulate swelling on your guitar volume knob. If you attach the envelope input to the wah you can create auto-wah effects. A trick on the older Axe-FX (before they updated to an improved noise gate) was to attach the envelope to a low pass filter. It was set up so that you got full frequency at high envelope (like right after you hit the sting), but it rolled off the high end as your note fades away. That creates a noise gate kind of like the ISP units. It is like a dynamic filter that constantly cuts away all the high frequencies as you dont play. I have never found a use for LFO since the effects it creates usually exist (tremolo, pan, wavy chorus, etc...) but it could work anywhere you want something that oscillates up and down.

I typically never use these in the Axe-FX II, but there are a few of the "common" ideas that they are used for.

Ok ok... I follow you. Just one question, at what point do I turn my unit to "ON"? Like I said, I'm not the best at all this stuff, but I'm learning. That is part of the reason getting set up to record scares the crap out of me.

 

[Shask]

Got my TC G Force up and running last and woh..... sound quality is not the same with the G major 2! The G Force sounds much fuller and more 3D, especially the reverbs. It is harder to navigate though, and edit presets, but a small price to pay.

That is interesting that the G Force sounds that much better, but then again, makes sense since it still sells at the price it is vs the G Major.

I have never had either, but have always been curious about the G Major.

That G Force sounds a lot like the Axe-FX, the way you can attach modifiers to different settings. You do the same in the Axe.

After gettting the G Force, I do have a new appreciation for the GM2. The GM2 is so user friendly, and is not too complicated, it's perfect for a guy like me. LFO's, ADSR's.... I'm like WTF? But, yeah, the G Force does sound better than the GM2, so I will learn this thing, and master it! Even if I don't want to actually dig this deep into parameters.

Having a Monday morning quarterback moment, If TC Electronic could come out with a unit that shared the simplicity of the GM2, but with the sound quality of the GForce, for a cost somewhere in the middle of what these current two are priced at, I'd bet it would sell well.

LOL. I understood those things, but I am also into synths and plugins and such, so you use that stuff a lot for electronic music. They are kind of weird in a guitar processor though.

Some quick tricks, if you attach the ADSR to the volume and raise the attack, you can create swell type effects. Put it first in the chain to simulate swelling on your guitar volume knob. If you attach the envelope input to the wah you can create auto-wah effects. A trick on the older Axe-FX (before they updated to an improved noise gate) was to attach the envelope to a low pass filter. It was set up so that you got full frequency at high envelope (like right after you hit the sting), but it rolled off the high end as your note fades away. That creates a noise gate kind of like the ISP units. It is like a dynamic filter that constantly cuts away all the high frequencies as you dont play. I have never found a use for LFO since the effects it creates usually exist (tremolo, pan, wavy chorus, etc...) but it could work anywhere you want something that oscillates up and down.

I typically never use these in the Axe-FX II, but there are a few of the "common" ideas that they are used for.

Ok ok... I follow you. Just one question, at what point do I turn my unit to "ON"? Like I said, I'm not the best at all this stuff, but I'm learning. That is part of the reason getting set up to record scares the crap out of me.

Eh, that is the thing about this stuff. You can make it as simple as you want, or as complex as you want. No reason to get into all the complicated stuff if you dont need it for anything.

 

[Rexxyboy]

I had a TC G-Major 2 and it was really great. Pristine FX, well priced, easy to program (flimsy build quality physically). A well thought out unit that gets the job done. I used a Behringer FCB1010 with Eureka mod, worked well, but had to really geek out to program it. Delays, Reverbs, Compressors, all very good. The pitch block does great intelligent harmonising, detuning and octave etc... I used it in a hi gain rock band, heaps of fun. GM2 is awesome for the money.

I scored big on an audio job in 2014 and took the plunge on an AXE FX. Its the best kit i've ever purchased. AXE-Edit on mac or pc makes editing such a joy, all the FX sound great as are routing options. You really need to add the MFC-101 and a Mission pedal or two to really get the most out of it live. I use it every day in the studio and live I use it in a number of configurations, 4 Cable Method with a real amp and cabinet, direct to FRFR monitors with no amp/cabinet, and in the studio every day via SPDIF into the computer.