
Kapo_Polenton
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Thanks for the info. I was unaware that Warren scooped his mids but i am assuming it is more subtle than the brutalz. Love that guys tone.
the4thlast1":3aurq1gn said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
This is true you can buy those amps for that price. People buy a SLO because they want the sounds of a SLO. I dont think anyone is really butthurt, it all comes down to what sound makes you happy and what you're willing to pay.the4thlast1":ddnlj3ys said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
the4thlast1":ufk85lde said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Shark Diver":1pfodaa0 said:the4thlast1":1pfodaa0 said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Well, not butt hurt, but you'd have to need 4 channels, MIDI and like that tone. I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO. So we would be polar oppositesRemember there's a lot in a tone chain so it maybe the combination, or not . Maybe it's not your deal. I love the SLO with low output pickups and EVM12s and SROs. I don't like it with high output pups and V30s. It really just depends on taste, gear, and music played. But I don't need MID and more channels - especially if I don't find all those channels to my liking. Which is usually the deal for people who buy 3 and 4 channel amps - even preamps. And again, how many different 'versions' of VH4s and Herberts out there. Peter was constantly changing them. Great amps, but they are not all the same.
steve_k":20bjyld3 said:Shark Diver":20bjyld3 said:the4thlast1":20bjyld3 said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Well, not butt hurt, but you'd have to need 4 channels, MIDI and like that tone. I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO. So we would be polar oppositesRemember there's a lot in a tone chain so it maybe the combination, or not . Maybe it's not your deal. I love the SLO with low output pickups and EVM12s and SROs. I don't like it with high output pups and V30s. It really just depends on taste, gear, and music played. But I don't need MID and more channels - especially if I don't find all those channels to my liking. Which is usually the deal for people who buy 3 and 4 channel amps - even preamps. And again, how many different 'versions' of VH4s and Herberts out there. Peter was constantly changing them. Great amps, but they are not all the same.
I would like to try another one using the Torpedo Live without a cab.
Shark Diver":ynunsb4c said:steve_k":ynunsb4c said:Shark Diver":ynunsb4c said:the4thlast1":ynunsb4c said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Well, not butt hurt, but you'd have to need 4 channels, MIDI and like that tone. I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO. So we would be polar oppositesRemember there's a lot in a tone chain so it maybe the combination, or not . Maybe it's not your deal. I love the SLO with low output pickups and EVM12s and SROs. I don't like it with high output pups and V30s. It really just depends on taste, gear, and music played. But I don't need MID and more channels - especially if I don't find all those channels to my liking. Which is usually the deal for people who buy 3 and 4 channel amps - even preamps. And again, how many different 'versions' of VH4s and Herberts out there. Peter was constantly changing them. Great amps, but they are not all the same.
I would like to try another one using the Torpedo Live without a cab.
That's actually a great way to test which speakers best suit an amp as well. Funny story - Jim had been telling me about the SLO, and it was my favorite model in the Ax Ultra (v3.17) so I bought a SLO, and the rest is history.
steve_k":33swpwi2 said:Shark Diver":33swpwi2 said:steve_k":33swpwi2 said:Shark Diver":33swpwi2 said:the4thlast1":33swpwi2 said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Well, not butt hurt, but you'd have to need 4 channels, MIDI and like that tone. I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO. So we would be polar oppositesRemember there's a lot in a tone chain so it maybe the combination, or not . Maybe it's not your deal. I love the SLO with low output pickups and EVM12s and SROs. I don't like it with high output pups and V30s. It really just depends on taste, gear, and music played. But I don't need MID and more channels - especially if I don't find all those channels to my liking. Which is usually the deal for people who buy 3 and 4 channel amps - even preamps. And again, how many different 'versions' of VH4s and Herberts out there. Peter was constantly changing them. Great amps, but they are not all the same.
I would like to try another one using the Torpedo Live without a cab.
That's actually a great way to test which speakers best suit an amp as well. Funny story - Jim had been telling me about the SLO, and it was my favorite model in the Ax Ultra (v3.17) so I bought a SLO, and the rest is history.
Well, you were the one pushing the Two Notes Torpedo and an amp/no cabs. So, history repeats itself. And, the future looks good......![]()
Shark Diver":2wfvjfeu said:steve_k":2wfvjfeu said:Shark Diver":2wfvjfeu said:steve_k":2wfvjfeu said:Shark Diver":2wfvjfeu said:the4thlast1":2wfvjfeu said:Yes there is butthurt and I hate to add to it but the price of a new Slo seems strange to me... You can buy a Diezel Vh4 new for that price that is also hand made with the highest quality components but has 4 channels, a series and parallel effects loop, and midi switching for that much coin. You could buy a Bogner 20th xtc which also has a lot more options , etc................ I guess what it comes down to is that if you love the tone of an SLO and to your ears it is better than other amps at that price tag with much more options/features than its worth it to you..
Personally I have owned the SLO, HotRod100, and a Avenger.. I loved the Avenger I had it was kick ass, the HotRod was cool but the SLO didnt do it for me. Lowend was too fat loose for me and the tone was a little muddy on lead channel compared to other amps I have, I tried different tubes and bias. Maybe I had a dud who knows but at that price point they should be very consistent. If all SLO's sound like the one I had then I really dont understand why anyone would pay 4k for one.
Major Butthurt added here lol
Well, not butt hurt, but you'd have to need 4 channels, MIDI and like that tone. I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO. So we would be polar oppositesRemember there's a lot in a tone chain so it maybe the combination, or not . Maybe it's not your deal. I love the SLO with low output pickups and EVM12s and SROs. I don't like it with high output pups and V30s. It really just depends on taste, gear, and music played. But I don't need MID and more channels - especially if I don't find all those channels to my liking. Which is usually the deal for people who buy 3 and 4 channel amps - even preamps. And again, how many different 'versions' of VH4s and Herberts out there. Peter was constantly changing them. Great amps, but they are not all the same.
I would like to try another one using the Torpedo Live without a cab.
That's actually a great way to test which speakers best suit an amp as well. Funny story - Jim had been telling me about the SLO, and it was my favorite model in the Ax Ultra (v3.17) so I bought a SLO, and the rest is history.
Well, you were the one pushing the Two Notes Torpedo and an amp/no cabs. So, history repeats itself. And, the future looks good......![]()
Two Notes is a great unit. The cool thing is to find a cab IR you dig and then try the real one too.![]()
Shark Diver":wacjawej said:I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO.
cardinal":1cojcena said:Shark Diver":1cojcena said:I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO.
I may resemble that remark.
Shark Diver":1gx1qrse said:cardinal":1gx1qrse said:Shark Diver":1gx1qrse said:I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO.
I may resemble that remark.
I think your son has already laid claim to your VH4![]()
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My son who is a drummer thinks he has dibs on my Soldano rack gear and a few Sadowsky guitars.Shark Diver":4hfun54j said:cardinal":4hfun54j said:Shark Diver":4hfun54j said:I sold my Diezels when I got my SLO.
I may resemble that remark.
I think your son has already laid claim to your VH4![]()
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Iceman8.6":1lx6ureq said:$4149?!?!![]()
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I bought about a SLO a year or so ago for $2450 shipped in excellent condition..IMO its worth that amount all day long but $4149?!?! well, the drugs must be flowing freely in the House of Soldano..
Jet Troop":2rke5b9p said:It is not just Soldano look at the price of everything now days...I do not know how anyone can afford anything now days. I know I cant. I cant see putting that much into an amp or guitar. I am a free market guy so if they can get it more power to them. It just wont come from me.
carlygtr":2r1qae11 said:IMO, the SLO is no benchmark. It's a sound. I've owned 8-10 since '92. It always comes down to the same thing. I prefer other amps. The Clean ch is ok, the Crunch blows, and the Lead w/ the gain past noon starts to get muddy and undefined.
The amp remains the same. 80's tone. No refinements of which could have improved the amp immensely. Nope, same old misplaced loop and dated tone.
When I first got my Landry, I plugged it into the same cab I had been using w/ my SLO. It was a revelation and the SLO got shitcanned.
Why spend 4K? Look what you can get nowdays w/ 4K if you wanted to buy new.
Mr. Willy":2kfwtyom said:Given the exchange rate of our dollar, I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner and with more amp companies.