I finally broke down and got EZDrummer3

[Metalhex]

I've been using the free MT Powerkit 2 plugin for 10 years. I have no idea what I'm doing with drums as far as processing/eq. I wanted more, different, probably better sounds. I see the bandmate function as something really useful as a tool for writing, getting and tweaking ideas. Making my super basic beats into something with more style. I've been on the fence for buying this plugin for years and finally pulled the trigger. They have plenty of different metal based expansion signs and midi files. So far $179 it let me download a free kit expansion so I downloaded the Death Metal kit.

I'm looking forward to diving in. What drum software is everyone here using whether it be for scratch tracks or their final production?

 

[NeubyWanKaneuby]

I use EZD3.

This guy has a whole channel dedicated to it. I've watched a couple of his vids, and they seem to be very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/@ShootieSchool

 

[Brandonrz]

The Toontrack stuff is awesome. I used ez drummer for a while then moved to sd3 for more versatility.

 

[Metalhex]

I use EZD3.

This guy has a whole channel dedicated to it. I've watched a couple of his vids, and they seem to be very informative.

https://www.youtube.com/@ShootieSchool

I agree. I discovered his videos yesterday. He is good.

It's a little bit of a learning curve. I spent a half hour trying to figure out how to duplicate a 4 bar beat. I couldn't figure out how so I gave up and just drew it all in by hand

 

[NeubyWanKaneuby]

I agree. I discovered his videos yesterday. He is good.

It's a little bit of a learning curve. I spent a half hour trying to figure out how to duplicate a 4 bar beat. I couldn't figure out how so I gave up and just drew it all in by hand

After you drag the part into the song track, you should be able to either copy/paste, or just drag the same part in multiple times.

 

[Brandonrz]

I agree. I discovered his videos yesterday. He is good.

It's a little bit of a learning curve. I spent a half hour trying to figure out how to duplicate a 4 bar beat. I couldn't figure out how so I gave up and just drew it all in by hand

If you use a tablature software you can export the MIDI and put it into your daw or ez drummer. I’ve always going this route personally just because it’s quicker for me that way

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

Trigger on my own drums. Software still has a hard time with hi hats and crashes but it's almost there for sure. If they found a way to combine real hi hat loop patterns with drum samples they would have something really cool.

 

[CoreyW]

I started with EZ drummer 2, then moved to SD3, the loops are pretty cool, and being able to combine the utility of Logic’s drummer with SD3/EZd can help a lot for non drummers.

I went down this path so far that I ended up getting a Roland kit and a drumeo subscription to just start learning on, I struggled with the hi hat on my kit and was discouraged for a while, then after a long time of Gassing I upgraded my kit to the new TD516, and have been having so much fun the last couple months learning on the new kit. I have since added acoustic skins with triggers to replace the main pads for the 516 and I am having so much fun with it, I find myself getting lost for hours just playing away.

Trigger on my own drums. Software still has a hard time with hi hats and crashes but it's almost there for sure. If they found a way to combine real hi hat loop patterns with drum samples they would have something really cool.

The digital hi hats really make a huge difference over the older 1 and 2 piece hi hats.

 

[cobrahead1030]

I used older versions of EZdrummer for the longest time.

Switched over to GGD a few years ago. Occasionally I’ll actually go in to mix & tweak everything myself, but I’ve actually come to really like the pre-mixed setup.

For the purpose of writing & sending tracks to the guys I’m jamming with, it lets me keep my focus on guitar.

 

[Metalhex]

If you use a tablature software you can export the MIDI and put it into your daw or ez drummer. I’ve always going this route personally just because it’s quicker for me that way

Is a tablature type thing not in EZdrummer already? What's the difference between that and the midi editor?

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

I started with EZ drummer 2, then moved to SD3, the loops are pretty cool, and being able to combine the utility of Logic’s drummer with SD3/EZd can help a lot for non drummers.

I went down this path so far that I ended up getting a Roland kit and a drumeo subscription to just start learning on, I struggled with the hi hat on my kit and was discouraged for a while, then after a long time of Gassing I upgraded my kit to the new TD516, and have been having so much fun the last couple months learning on the new kit. I have since added acoustic skins with triggers to replace the main pads for the 516 and I am having so much fun with it, I find myself getting lost for hours just playing away.





The digital hi hats really make a huge difference over the older 1 and 2 piece hi hats.

No doubt. The tech is getting better and better but the real deal is still just so diff where hats are concerned. How they feel and respond but that said, also harder in mixdown if they poke through too much or wash too much etc..so SD3 ( I also have) is cool but sometimes suffers from sounding " too perfect". Which is why I settler on snare sample mixed in about 60% to my raw signal. Kick i mix in even less and then toms where they just need more. I think there is a reason trigger is an industry standard. So much quicker to work with

 

[Monkey Man]

Slate SSD.

 

[nightlight]

I have SD3, SSD2 and BD3. Hands down Superior Drummer is the best of them. The expansions are even better than the stock kit. I really like the Death and Darkness SDX, as well as Area 33. But there are tonnes of others for rock or pop sounds.

Here's me triggering SD3 with my e-kit. Sounds pretty good, imo, but this is just the stock sounds without tweaking. To get the best out of it, you have to be willing to edit the hell out of each kit piece, otherwise the drums won't the sound of your mixing techniques and productions.

 

[stratjacket]

I use Superior Drummer 3. I used to use EZ Drummer and Steven Slate.

The Ugritone stuff looks really cool, tailored for metal and cheaper than Toontrack. I did buy their midi packs which import in and work in SD3 and EZDrummer.

 

[Brandonrz]

Is a tablature type thing not in EZdrummer already? What's the difference between that and the midi editor?

They essentially amount to the same end result. I’m just much quicker on the old software I’ve used forever. Plus I put my guitar parts in there too and the bass.

 

[OldGtrGuy]

Ive used MT drums as well, EZ 1, had SD3 very briefly but didnt use it much and now use Ugritone drums.

They sound great, I also don't know much about processing and my mixes suck but EZ3 has some cool features like you mentioned that I would love to have.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The frustration with SD3 is just the depth of the program. So many things you can tweak. Also for replacement, it's a pain in the ass. Make sure you import project from 00:00 line or it doesn't line up once you export the tracker to midi performance. I am going to be playing with it for some kick reinforcement because i like all the tweaking that can be done as well as all the kicks that are available vs using trigger but as with all things SD3, you really have to know what you want out of it or you will get lost down a rabbit hole of options.

Ugritone has a terrible interface but i have a few of the kits and I actually like how realistic they sounded.

 

[DanTravis62]

Trigger on my own drums. Software still has a hard time with hi hats and crashes but it's almost there for sure. If they found a way to combine real hi hat loop patterns with drum samples they would have something really cool.

Agree on this. I have very specific sound needs and don't enjoy most modern drum sounds.

 

[Metalhex]

I have SD3, SSD2 and BD3. Hands down Superior Drummer is the best of them. The expansions are even better than the stock kit. I really like the Death and Darkness SDX, as well as Area 33. But there are tonnes of others for rock or pop sounds.

Here's me triggering SD3 with my e-kit. Sounds pretty good, imo, but this is just the stock sounds without tweaking. To get the best out of it, you have to be willing to edit the hell out of each kit piece, otherwise the drums won't the sound of your mixing techniques and productions.

Sounds pretty good how long have you been drumming for?

 

[CoreyW]

No doubt. The tech is getting better and better but the real deal is still just so diff where hats are concerned. How they feel and respond but that said, also harder in mixdown if they poke through too much or wash too much etc..so SD3 ( I also have) is cool but sometimes suffers from sounding " too perfect". Which is why I settler on snare sample mixed in about 60% to my raw signal. Kick i mix in even less and then toms where they just need more. I think there is a reason trigger is an industry standard. So much quicker to work with

Oh, I do agree with most of what you said, but when I was look at being able to get drums into the box, it made the most sense to go Edrums and VSTs. My main reasoning, that I didnt/dont have the space and means to make/build a room that would give me better results than the VSTs, not to mention the Mics, and ease of use, and ability to be mostly "quiet". My wife is cool with the noise, up to a point.. and the more I work to keep the noise down her tolerance for my noise stays pretty high.