I want some new speakers for my 412

[The~Kid]

Honestly maybe try Celestion Redbacks or Mesas BlackShadows.


Also can't go wrong with 2 Greenbacks and 2 G12H30 70th Anniversary or 4 Greenbacks but if you want more headroom or power handling the Redbacks or BlackShadows could be a better option.


A Neo Cremback is worth considering too.


Jenson BlackBirds are worth considering too but those aren't cheap or some of their Alnicos.


412 of Tone Tubby 40/40s isn't a bad idea either and those things are quality. If your looking at something a step above your regular speakers Tone Tubby 40/40s really are fantastic especially for higher gain and in general.

 

[The~Kid]

You could go with a Redback/Creamback H combination for example or throw some Swamp Thangs in there too.
Actually, I'd personally load up two Jensen Nighthawks and two Redbacks or if you can wait a little bit, Lichtlaerm Audio will be releasing a 16 Ohm version of the LCFR-150 soon.

Yeah I mean would say RedBack or Neo Creamback or both just for the higher handling.


But I mean yeah this or some Tone Tubby Ceramic 40/40s especially after those are broken in the Hemp cone really handles higher volumes nicer than regular paper IME even if they don't provide as much wattage as something like a V30 and offer a very smooth tone.


But yeah would say Redback/NeoCreamback route is the way to go if your going for Celestions, if your going for something else Tone Tubby is where I would look too vs WGS or Eminence stuff too. But speaking of definition/detail/articulation really comsider a 40/40 Tone Tubby @MadAsAHatter, those hemp cones really do make a difference there and handle power nicer than most regular paper cones in general IME.




Scumbacks sound great too and I would also consider their higher powered speakers.

 

[The~Kid]

Honestly yeah the Classic Lead 80 is worth considering too aside from from a Mesa BlackShadow and is another good one and aside from the RedBack or Neo Creamback and Tone Tubby recommendations if you really wanted the most handling possible........



I mean these would probably be best for a Twin or something but yeah....... and they are Neo Versions which mean high power and low weight.




The CopperBack at 250 watts may be something OP might consider depending level of saturation/gain/volume but yeah.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

I've had a change of plans and figured out something different and probably a little crazy.
I'm going to use the cab in question with a different set of amps and load it with some greenback style speakers.
Here comes the crazy part. I'm going to build myself a 6x12 (you read that right) to go with the BV300 and a few other 4 ohm heads. Weber offers some of their speakers in 24 ohm. That can be wired up in parallel for 4 ohms total. I'm looking at the Gray Wolf, Silver Wolf, Black Shuck, or some combo of those.

And for everyone saying I need some EVM 12L... Those will come later down the road, but I think I'll step it up a notch. I'm planning a couple of 4x15 cabs. I want to load some EVM 15L in one of them.

 

[BlackMetal]

I have Weber's loaded in my 2 main cabs. A 412 with Gray Wolf/Silver Wolf mix. The other is a 212/115 with Gray Wolf/Blue Dog-15 mix. Both are great sounding cabs.

Tell me more about the Black Shuck. I've been interested in it, but there's a lack of demos and reviews. Weber's description makes it seem like it's more for down tuning. I did see an old post from CJ saying something like it was more Black Sabbath than AC/DC, but I really don't know what he meant by that.

I have 2 cabs with Silver Wolves mixed in. I love 'em. They mix nicely with a lot of speakers. Eminence and Celestion don't pair nicely imo. But the Silver seems to work well with either brand. I havent found a use for my Gray Wolves yet. I was considering replacing the two K100s in my Diezel cab with the Black Shucks but I'm hesitant too.

 

[Hiwatts-n-Gibsons]

Thanks for the suggestions everyone.

I've had a change of plans and figured out something different and probably a little crazy.
I'm going to use the cab in question with a different set of amps and load it with some greenback style speakers.
Here comes the crazy part. I'm going to build myself a 6x12 (you read that right) to go with the BV300 and a few other 4 ohm heads. Weber offers some of their speakers in 24 ohm. That can be wired up in parallel for 4 ohms total. I'm looking at the Gray Wolf, Silver Wolf, Black Shuck, or some combo of those.

And for everyone saying I need some EVM 12L... Those will come later down the road, but I think I'll step it up a notch. I'm planning a couple of 4x15 cabs. I want to load some EVM 15L in one of them.

You're gonna need a new dolly. I recommend one of these.

 

[7704A]

You're gonna need a new dolly. I recommend one of these.

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That's quite the handtruck.

 

[Mike Oxhuge]

Hmmm. A 6x12. The cab equivalent of Morganna the kissing bandit. Giant giant fuck udders. Get your motorboatin on son!

 

[Nigel]

Yeah I mean would say RedBack or Neo Creamback or both just for the higher handling.


But I mean yeah this or some Tone Tubby Ceramic 40/40s especially after those are broken in the Hemp cone really handles higher volumes nicer than regular paper IME even if they don't provide as much wattage as something like a V30 and offer a very smooth tone.


But yeah would say Redback/NeoCreamback route is the way to go if your going for Celestions, if your going for something else Tone Tubby is where I would look too vs WGS or Eminence stuff too. But speaking of definition/detail/articulation really comsider a 40/40 Tone Tubby @MadAsAHatter, those hemp cones really do make a difference there and handle power nicer than most regular paper cones in general IME.




Scumbacks sound great too and I would also consider their higher powered speakers.

Tone Tubbys take a really, really long time to break in. Def wanna get 'em used n' flogged to death.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I ended up getting a quad of Mesa V30's which is what's in there now. Eventually I'll move 2 of them to a 212/215 cab to pair with Fullbacks. So now I'm looking at what to put with the other 2 V30's. I have a thread on that here.

https://www.rig-talk.com/forum/threads/uncommon-v30-speaker-mixes.334348/