Illinois outlaws book bans

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So are you saying some books should be banned? If so, what and why?

Fox in Socks by Dr Seuss. That is one hell of a difficult read.

Fox in Socks by Dr. Seuss
-------------------------

Fox
Socks
Box
Knox

Knox in box.
Fox in socks.

Knox on fox in socks in box.

Socks on Knox and Knox in box.

Fox in socks on box on Knox.

Chicks with bricks come.
Chicks with blocks come.
Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks come.

Look, sir. Look, sir. Mr. Knox, sir.
Let's do tricks with bricks and blocks, sir.
Let's do tricks with chicks and clocks, sir.

First, I'll make a quick trick brick stack.
Then I'll make a quick trick block stack.

You can make a quick trick chick stack.
You can make a quick trick clock stack.

And here's a new trick, Mr. Knox....
Socks on chicks and chicks on fox.
Fox on clocks on bricks and blocks.
Bricks and blocks on Knox on box.

Now we come to ticks and tocks, sir.
Try to say this Mr. Knox, sir....

Clocks on fox tick.
Clocks on Knox tock.
Six sick bricks tick.
Six sick chicks tock.

Please, sir. I don't like this trick, sir.
My tongue isn't quick or slick, sir.
I get all those ticks and clocks, sir,
mixed up with the chicks and tocks, sir.
I can't do it, Mr. Fox, sir.

I'm so sorry, Mr. Knox, sir.

Here's an easy game to play.
Here's an easy thing to say....

New socks.
Two socks.
Whose socks?
Sue's socks.

Who sews whose socks?
Sue sews Sue's socks.

Who sees who sew whose new socks, sir?
You see Sue sew Sue's new socks, sir.

That's not easy, Mr. Fox, sir.

Who comes? ...
Crow comes.
Slow Joe Crow comes.

Who sews crow's clothes?
Sue sews crow's clothes.
Slow Joe Crow sews whose clothes?
Sue's clothes.

Sue sews socks of fox in socks now.

Slow Joe Crow sews Knox in box now.

Sue sews rose on Slow Joe Crow's clothes.
Fox sews hose on Slow Joe Crow's nose.

Hose goes.
Rose grows.
Nose hose goes some.
Crow's rose grows some.

Mr. Fox!
I hate this game, sir.
This game makes my tongue quite lame, sir.

Mr. Knox, sir, what a shame, sir.

We'll find something new to do now.
Here is lots of new blue goo now.
New goo. Blue goo.
Gooey. Gooey.
Blue goo. New goo.
Gluey. Gluey.

Gooey goo for chewy chewing!
That's what that Goo-Goose is doing.
Do you choose to chew goo, too, sir?
If, sir, you, sir, choose to chew, sir,
with the Goo-Goose, chew, sir.
Do, sir.

Mr. Fox, sir,
I won't do it.
I can't say.
I won't chew it.

Very well, sir.
Step this way.
We'll find another game to play.

Bim comes.
Ben comes.
Bim brings Ben broom.
Ben brings Bim broom.

Ben bends Bim's broom.
Bim bends Ben's broom.
Bim's bends.
Ben's bends.
Ben's bent broom breaks.
Bim's bent broom breaks.

Ben's band. Bim's band.
Big bands. Pig bands.

Bim and Ben lead bands with brooms.
Ben's band bangs and Bim's band booms.

Pig band! Boom band!
Big band! Broom band!
My poor mouth can't say that. No, sir.
My poor mouth is much too slow, sir.

Well then... bring your mouth this way.
I'll find it something it can say.

Luke Luck likes lakes.
Luke's duck likes lakes.
Luke Luck licks lakes.
Luck's duck licks lakes.

Duck takes licks in lakes Luke Luck likes.
Luke Luck takes licks in lakes duck likes.

I can't blab such blibber blubber!
My tongue isn't make of rubber.

Mr. Knox. Now come now. Come now.
You don't have to be so dumb now....

Try to say this, Mr. Knox, please....

Through three cheese trees three free fleas flew.
While these fleas flew, freezy breeze blew.
Freezy breeze made these three trees freeze.
Freezy trees made these trees' cheese freeze.
That's what made these three free fleas sneeze.

Stop it! Stop it!
That's enough, sir.
I can't say such silly stuff, sir.

Very well, then, Mr. Knox, sir.

Let's have a little talk about tweetle beetles....

What do you know about tweetle beetles? Well...

When tweetle beetles fight,
it's called a tweetle beetle battle.

And when they battle in a puddle,
it's a tweetle beetle puddle battle.

AND when tweetle beetles battle with paddles in a puddle,
they call it a tweetle beetle puddle paddle battle.

AND...

When beetles battle beetles in a puddle paddle battle
and the beetle battle puddle is a puddle in a bottle...
...they call this a tweetle beetle bottle puddle paddle battle muddle.

AND...

When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles
and the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle's eating noodles...
...they call this a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle
bottle paddle battle.

AND...

Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks Fox!

When a fox is in the bottle where the tweetle beetles battle
with their paddles in a puddle on a noodle-eating poodle,
THIS is what they call...

...a tweetle beetle noodle poodle bottled paddled
muddled duddled fuddled wuddled fox in socks, sir!

Fox in socks, our game is done, sir.
Thank you for a lot of fun, sir.
 
Fox in Socks by Dr Seuss.

Back in the 80s/90s I had a long running bet at the place where I worked that I'd give $100
to anyone who could get through the entire book without tripping on their tongue.

Not a single person won in almost 10 years!
 
Back in the 80s/90s I had a long running bet at the place where I worked that I'd give $100
to anyone who could get through the entire book without tripping on their tongue.

Not a single person won in almost 10 years!

I picked up that book one night to read to my sons and I didn't know what I was getting into. I was like "what the fuck is this shit" but we had a blast.
 
I picked up that book one night to read to my sons and I didn't know what I was getting into. I was like "what the fuck is this shit" but we had a blast.

I had about a dozen printed copies of the book so people could stand around the person trying to read it and
watch them like a hawk which added a lot of fun to the wager. It would always be a big gut bust of laughs when
someone eventually fucked up.
 
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shootings-juneteenth-weekend-dead-injured/
Chicago children have ready access to groomer lit while they recover from the latest mass shooting. Way to go Pritzker!
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shootings-juneteenth-weekend-dead-injured/
Chicago children have ready access to groomer lit while they recover from the latest mass shooting. Way to go Pritzker!
you post an article touching on gun violence amongst young people and you think "grooming" is the problem? cmon man
 
Fox in Socks by Dr Seuss. That is one hell of a difficult read.

Fox in Socks by Dr. Seuss
-------------------------

Fox
Socks
Box
Knox

Knox in box.
Fox in socks.

Knox on fox in socks in box.

Socks on Knox and Knox in box.

Fox in socks on box on Knox.

Chicks with bricks come.
Chicks with blocks come.
Chicks with bricks and blocks and clocks come.

Look, sir. Look, sir. Mr. Knox, sir.
Let's do tricks with bricks and blocks, sir.
Let's do tricks with chicks and clocks, sir.

First, I'll make a quick trick brick stack.
Then I'll make a quick trick block stack.

You can make a quick trick chick stack.
You can make a quick trick clock stack.

And here's a new trick, Mr. Knox....
Socks on chicks and chicks on fox.
Fox on clocks on bricks and blocks.
Bricks and blocks on Knox on box.

Now we come to ticks and tocks, sir.
Try to say this Mr. Knox, sir....

Clocks on fox tick.
Clocks on Knox tock.
Six sick bricks tick.
Six sick chicks tock.

Please, sir. I don't like this trick, sir.
My tongue isn't quick or slick, sir.
I get all those ticks and clocks, sir,
mixed up with the chicks and tocks, sir.
I can't do it, Mr. Fox, sir.

I'm so sorry, Mr. Knox, sir.

Here's an easy game to play.
Here's an easy thing to say....

New socks.
Two socks.
Whose socks?
Sue's socks.

Who sews whose socks?
Sue sews Sue's socks.

Who sees who sew whose new socks, sir?
You see Sue sew Sue's new socks, sir.

That's not easy, Mr. Fox, sir.

Who comes? ...
Crow comes.
Slow Joe Crow comes.

Who sews crow's clothes?
Sue sews crow's clothes.
Slow Joe Crow sews whose clothes?
Sue's clothes.

Sue sews socks of fox in socks now.

Slow Joe Crow sews Knox in box now.

Sue sews rose on Slow Joe Crow's clothes.
Fox sews hose on Slow Joe Crow's nose.

Hose goes.
Rose grows.
Nose hose goes some.
Crow's rose grows some.

Mr. Fox!
I hate this game, sir.
This game makes my tongue quite lame, sir.

Mr. Knox, sir, what a shame, sir.

We'll find something new to do now.
Here is lots of new blue goo now.
New goo. Blue goo.
Gooey. Gooey.
Blue goo. New goo.
Gluey. Gluey.

Gooey goo for chewy chewing!
That's what that Goo-Goose is doing.
Do you choose to chew goo, too, sir?
If, sir, you, sir, choose to chew, sir,
with the Goo-Goose, chew, sir.
Do, sir.

Mr. Fox, sir,
I won't do it.
I can't say.
I won't chew it.

Very well, sir.
Step this way.
We'll find another game to play.

Bim comes.
Ben comes.
Bim brings Ben broom.
Ben brings Bim broom.

Ben bends Bim's broom.
Bim bends Ben's broom.
Bim's bends.
Ben's bends.
Ben's bent broom breaks.
Bim's bent broom breaks.

Ben's band. Bim's band.
Big bands. Pig bands.

Bim and Ben lead bands with brooms.
Ben's band bangs and Bim's band booms.

Pig band! Boom band!
Big band! Broom band!
My poor mouth can't say that. No, sir.
My poor mouth is much too slow, sir.

Well then... bring your mouth this way.
I'll find it something it can say.

Luke Luck likes lakes.
Luke's duck likes lakes.
Luke Luck licks lakes.
Luck's duck licks lakes.

Duck takes licks in lakes Luke Luck likes.
Luke Luck takes licks in lakes duck likes.

I can't blab such blibber blubber!
My tongue isn't make of rubber.

Mr. Knox. Now come now. Come now.
You don't have to be so dumb now....

Try to say this, Mr. Knox, please....

Through three cheese trees three free fleas flew.
While these fleas flew, freezy breeze blew.
Freezy breeze made these three trees freeze.
Freezy trees made these trees' cheese freeze.
That's what made these three free fleas sneeze.

Stop it! Stop it!
That's enough, sir.
I can't say such silly stuff, sir.

Very well, then, Mr. Knox, sir.

Let's have a little talk about tweetle beetles....

What do you know about tweetle beetles? Well...

When tweetle beetles fight,
it's called a tweetle beetle battle.

And when they battle in a puddle,
it's a tweetle beetle puddle battle.

AND when tweetle beetles battle with paddles in a puddle,
they call it a tweetle beetle puddle paddle battle.

AND...

When beetles battle beetles in a puddle paddle battle
and the beetle battle puddle is a puddle in a bottle...
...they call this a tweetle beetle bottle puddle paddle battle muddle.

AND...

When beetles fight these battles in a bottle with their paddles
and the bottle's on a poodle and the poodle's eating noodles...
...they call this a muddle puddle tweetle poodle beetle noodle
bottle paddle battle.

AND...

Now wait a minute, Mr. Socks Fox!

When a fox is in the bottle where the tweetle beetles battle
with their paddles in a puddle on a noodle-eating poodle,
THIS is what they call...

...a tweetle beetle noodle poodle bottled paddled
muddled duddled fuddled wuddled fox in socks, sir!

Fox in socks, our game is done, sir.
Thank you for a lot of fun, sir.
MistaGuitah just outed his alt. Time for the blitz boys!
 
you post an article touching on gun violence amongst young people and you think "grooming" is the problem? cmon man
We can address two problems at the same time - priorities
but what hack's like Pritzker do is play to white elites while ignoring the fact that blacks in his state kill like there is no tomorrow - but for him to be bold on that might cost him a vote.
 
We can address two problems at the same time - priorities
but what hack's like Pritzker do is play to white elites while ignoring the fact that blacks in his state kill like there is no tomorrow - but for him to be bold on that might cost him a vote.
I’m not sure what that has to do with banging books though. To mirror your sentiment, Pritzker can tackle more than one issue at a time.
I honestly don’t know the first thing about the dude besides this bill, but banned books usually stress the importance of diversity and focus on the struggles of marginalized citizens.
You mention the black community in your post, and the black community is often the target of books being banned. There is too much effort being put in to erasing their history here and that sure seems like a good reason to be pissed off
I’m not saying violence is the answer, but it is understandable why some may be angry
 
I’m not sure what that has to do with banging books though. To mirror your sentiment, Pritzker can tackle more than one issue at a time.
I honestly don’t know the first thing about the dude besides this bill, but banned books usually stress the importance of diversity and focus on the struggles of marginalized citizens.
You mention the black community in your post, and the black community is often the target of books being banned. There is too much effort being put in to erasing their history here and that sure seems like a good reason to be pissed off
I’m not saying violence is the answer, but it is understandable why some may be angry
I am not a fan of Pritzker.
Re the book "ban" issue - 99% of it concerns book restrictions - that is, preventing the local school library from giving your 8 year-old child a book describing sexual practices without your ok - not a ban.
In most cases, the images and language in the books under consideration is too obscene to be quoted accurately in the local paper or television news. To me if the paper won't print it, a parent thinking it shouldn't be readily available to their pre-pubescent child doesn't sound like a ban or extreme. In fact, those who want such in the kids' hands are the ones who are extreme.

Similarly, Florida for a prominent example, requires the teaching of black history including the evils of slavery. What they bar is bad history - 1619 style misinformation and CRT political propaganda. In the mass media, pushing back is a ban is fascism is genocide etc. Nuts.
 
I am not a fan of Pritzker.
Re the book "ban" issue - 99% of it concerns book restrictions - that is, preventing the local school library from giving your 8 year-old child a book describing sexual practices without your ok - not a ban.
In most cases, the images and language in the books under consideration is too obscene to be quoted accurately in the local paper or television news. To me if the paper won't print it, a parent thinking it shouldn't be readily available to their pre-pubescent child doesn't sound like a ban or extreme. In fact, those who want such in the kids' hands are the ones who are extreme.

Similarly, Florida for a prominent example, requires the teaching of black history including the evils of slavery. What they bar is bad history - 1619 style misinformation and CRT political propaganda. In the mass media, pushing back is a ban is fascism is genocide etc. Nuts.

The misrepresentation of black history has been going on for decades in the classroom. Going off what is taught, Lincoln ended slavery, MLK made a speech and everything has been hunky dory since Rosa Parks.

European history is studied extensively, yet that is not where we all came from. Most people have never even heard of the Tulsa Massacre even though it was probably one of the worst things to ever happen in our own country.
Shit, even the size of Africa on maps is marginalized.

This is real life important stuff that everyone in the country should learn about. Kids seeing “obscene images” in books is absolutely dwarfed in comparison.
I’m not condoning obscenities in schools, but kids are exposed to obscenities everywhere, and it is a good parent’s job to explain such things to them when they ask questions about what they see.

It is not their jobs to teach the actual history of our country
 
Here are a couple of images from some of the books for kids at issue - if you have no issue with you six year old having unfettered access to such that is fine. But if others speak up and say no that is not book banning - it is parental control.

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The misrepresentation of black history has been going on for decades in the classroom. Going off what is taught, Lincoln ended slavery, MLK made a speech and everything has been hunky dory since Rosa Parks.

Where do your kids go to school if that is all they learn? My kids went to public school in Louisiana and they learned much more about civil rights and related struggles than that.

European history is studied extensively, yet that is not where we all came from. Most people have never even heard of the Tulsa Massacre even though it was probably one of the worst things to ever happen in our own country.
Tulsa was horrible and not generally taught true - like a lot of Native American disasters ignored.
Shit, even the size of Africa on maps is marginalized.
Even the maps are racist - come on, man get serious.
On the topic of Africa, are your kids taught that Africans in Ghana and elsewhere were the enslavers of those sold to the Americas? Or was that essential part of the enslavement narrative left out? Do you support requiring that part of the story be told?
This is real life important stuff that everyone in the country should learn about. Kids seeing “obscene images” in books is absolutely dwarfed in comparison.
I’m not condoning obscenities in schools, but kids are exposed to obscenities everywhere, and it is a good parent’s job to explain such things to them when they ask questions about what they see.
So instead of protecting your kid from a creep showing obscene images the responsible parent explains after the fact?
It is not their jobs to teach the actual history of our country
 
Where do your kids go to school if that is all they learn? My kids went to public school in Louisiana and they learned much more about civil rights and related struggles than that.


Tulsa was horrible and not generally taught true - like a lot of Native American disasters ignored.

Even the maps are racist - come on, man get serious.
On the topic of Africa, are your kids taught that Africans in Ghana and elsewhere were the enslavers of those sold to the Americas? Or was that essential part of the enslavement narrative left out? Do you support requiring that part of the story be told?

So instead of protecting your kid from a creep showing obscene images the responsible parent explains after the fact?

Kids being shown inappropriate things in school is so uncommon, it is practically a non issue. Way way way overblown.

After that, yes I do believe American students should be taught about all aspects of slavery. There is zero reason to leave any parts out for sensitivity reasons.
A point of not banning books is to not let people outside of schools pick and choose what parts of history students have access to.
African Americans make up a decent percentage of our school children and they are not taught shit about their heritage. It downplays their contribution to our country completely.

And read up on maps and tell me I’m wrong. They were drawn the way they were for a reason, and not only because maps are flat. Look how big Africa is

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A world map makes it appear mere fractions of its actual size.
 
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