Insane Doug Aldrich Kemper profile (clip)

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Yeah, I don't want to be a party pooper either because it sounds good but it doesn't sound as good as Aldrich's tone and I hear the fizz. Is the fizz I am hearing the Kemper? Because i find in isolated tracks, this is where the digital thing sort of rears it's ugly head. Same with speaker impulses. Tube amp through mic still has it's place at the head of the rock work in my opinion. It's cool though.
 
Kapo_Polenton":qh7gy3s5 said:
Yeah, I don't want to be a party pooper either because it sounds good but it doesn't sound as good as Aldrich's tone and I hear the fizz. Is the fizz I am hearing the Kemper? Because i find in isolated tracks, this is where the digital thing sort of rears it's ugly head. Same with speaker impulses. Tube amp through mic still has it's place at the head of the rock work in my opinion. It's cool though.

Yeah, I'm sure I sound like a party pooper as well, but it is what it is.. Sounds nothing like Aldrich's tone, (albeit, HE'S not playing it, either). Add that to impulses, recording gizmos, reamping, etc., it just further adds to the digital fizz-factor.

I'm not sure when people will realize players not only have a distinctive tone, but also a feel, that establishes that tone.
George Lynch, for example.. Played Marshalls, Bogners, Randalls, Diezels, etc., but always sounds like George Lynch tone. I think Nugent said it best, when he toured with EVH. He plugged into Eddie's rig one night, cranked it up, and managed to sound like, as he put it, Ted Nugent.

Two people could plug into the same guitar, amp, settings, etc, and someone will likely say, "I like that guy's tone better", without knowing the only thing different, is THE PLAYER.
 
napalmdeath":2gjw1zl2 said:
Kapo_Polenton":2gjw1zl2 said:
Yeah, I don't want to be a party pooper either because it sounds good but it doesn't sound as good as Aldrich's tone and I hear the fizz. Is the fizz I am hearing the Kemper? Because i find in isolated tracks, this is where the digital thing sort of rears it's ugly head. Same with speaker impulses. Tube amp through mic still has it's place at the head of the rock work in my opinion. It's cool though.

Yeah, I'm sure I sound like a party pooper as well, but it is what it is.. Sounds nothing like Aldrich's tone, (albeit, HE'S not playing it, either). Add that to impulses, recording gizmos, reamping, etc., it just further adds to the digital fizz-factor.

I'm not sure when people will realize players not only have a distinctive tone, but also a feel, that establishes that tone.
George Lynch, for example.. Played Marshalls, Bogners, Randalls, Diezels, etc., but always sounds like George Lynch tone. I think Nugent said it best, when he toured with EVH. He plugged into Eddie's rig one night, cranked it up, and managed to sound like, as he put it, Ted Nugent.

Two people could plug into the same guitar, amp, settings, etc, and someone will likely say, "I like that guy's tone better", without knowing the only thing different, is THE PLAYER.

Yup.. then you have the producer, the room, and the mic and final mix equation too. This is why i also don't chase specific tones anymore. I used to be obsessed with Schenker's tone. But now he plays what, his 2205's and he boosts with a screamer now and again? It always sounds like him and I always sound like me. But all that aside, digital has the fizzy overtone that you cannot shake. Pete Thorn has the best examples of IR's out there but not that many others around here seem to be able to replicate that good of a chain to get that tone out of impulses.
 
Kapo_Polenton":1tmap165 said:
napalmdeath":1tmap165 said:
Kapo_Polenton":1tmap165 said:
Yeah, I don't want to be a party pooper either because it sounds good but it doesn't sound as good as Aldrich's tone and I hear the fizz. Is the fizz I am hearing the Kemper? Because i find in isolated tracks, this is where the digital thing sort of rears it's ugly head. Same with speaker impulses. Tube amp through mic still has it's place at the head of the rock work in my opinion. It's cool though.

Yeah, I'm sure I sound like a party pooper as well, but it is what it is.. Sounds nothing like Aldrich's tone, (albeit, HE'S not playing it, either). Add that to impulses, recording gizmos, reamping, etc., it just further adds to the digital fizz-factor.

I'm not sure when people will realize players not only have a distinctive tone, but also a feel, that establishes that tone.
George Lynch, for example.. Played Marshalls, Bogners, Randalls, Diezels, etc., but always sounds like George Lynch tone. I think Nugent said it best, when he toured with EVH. He plugged into Eddie's rig one night, cranked it up, and managed to sound like, as he put it, Ted Nugent.

Two people could plug into the same guitar, amp, settings, etc, and someone will likely say, "I like that guy's tone better", without knowing the only thing different, is THE PLAYER.

Yup.. then you have the producer, the room, and the mic and final mix equation too. This is why i also don't chase specific tones anymore. I used to be obsessed with Schenker's tone. But now he plays what, his 2205's and he boosts with a screamer now and again? It always sounds like him and I always sound like me. But all that aside, digital has the fizzy overtone that you cannot shake. Pete Thorn has the best examples of IR's out there but not that many others around here seem to be able to replicate that good of a chain to get that tone out of impulses.


I had a 2205 - that and a Tubescreamer, (I used a Wylde OD with mine), shits all over the Kemper. John Norum has one too, (got it from Schenker 20 years ago, oddly enough), and he makes it sound glorious as well.
 
So many people here that try to pass for having great "studio prodigy ear".. and don't even start thinking of the principles of what's at stake..
I merely shared the link as a reference to the person who started the trail..... to see what I'm talking about.
Obviously the clip sounds like the worst crap you've ever heard here.
That clip was recorded on a cellphone... add to that the fact that youtube applies shitty compression as soon as you upload stuff.
Could you possibly sound more ignorant?

I've been in the presence of that amp and face to face you would poop your pants at the tone of that thing (If you like that kind of tone that is)
Plus I myself don't believe in trying to sound like someone else.
I simply like this "Aldrich-ish tone as a base to start with... because I play that style of music and because it offers clarity and good note separation when you play fast passages.
Basically.. I have always liked Marshalls and Boogies and I own a few.. and... I like 80s music.
Other than that... I pride myself of being my own person and musician.

And a word of advice to those who spend too much time trolling and talking nonsense in forums like this:

"Devote that time to practice your chops instead.... Tone is in your fingers, hands and soul"

I've heard plenty of people sounding amazing with very humble gear....I've hear people sounding like turds with the most expensive tube amps.
Nobody cares if you don't like a Kemper... Don't buy it
 
austriarock":rrb5uwub said:
So many people here that try to pass for having great "studio prodigy ear".. and don't even start thinking of the principles of what's at stake..
I merely shared the link as a reference to the person who started the trail..... to see what I'm talking about.
Obviously the clip sounds like the worst crap you've ever heard here.
That clip was recorded on a cellphone... add to that the fact that youtube applies shitty compression as soon as you upload stuff.
Could you possibly sound more ignorant?

I've been in the presence of that amp and face to face you would poop your pants at the tone of that thing (If you like that kind of tone that is)
Plus I myself don't believe in trying to sound like someone else.
I simply like this "Aldrich-ish tone as a base to start with... because I play that style of music and because it offers clarity and good note separation when you play fast passages.
Basically.. I have always liked Marshalls and Boogies and I own a few.. and... I like 80s music.
Other than that... I pride myself of being my own person and musician.

And a word of advice to those who spend too much time trolling and talking nonsense in forums like this:

"Devote that time to practice your chops instead.... Tone is in your fingers, hands and soul"

I've heard plenty of people sounding amazing with very humble gear....I've hear people sounding like turds with the most expensive tube amps.
Nobody cares if you don't like a Kemper... Don't buy it


Wonderful. Based on your post count of "2", I'm guessing you did a bit of trolling yourself, or, get your feathers ruffled easy when others don't share your views. I personally wouldn't call it "crap", just nothing like the real deal.
 
austriarock":12oifwss said:
The profile is good... But I actually have the Cameron-Aldrich JMP profile that Cameron himself made and is more to my taste.

check it here:

https://youtu.be/YKGCkmVzLoo


However... his does not come with a cab impulse because he does not like how the Kemper sounds on a flat response monitor. This is a problem for those who don't have a cabinet that can get close to whatever he is using.
I for example have my beloved Mesa cab with Vintage 30s and it sounds great through it... but not like cameron's video because he uses an old Marshall cab.
I wouldn't trade my Mesa for a Marshall though... specially just to have that particular profile sound more accurate.
I also have an Atomic CLR MKII... But the Cab response I added was from a Michael Britt profile (one of a Friedman head paired with a 72 stock Marshall). and It wasn't doing the trick all that well.

The Peter W profile has a good cab that I copied and applied to my Aldrich profile and it did a great job..
So thanks to your post here.. I was able to go grab that profile from the Rig Exchange and extract the cabinet response and now my tone sounds better when playing through my Atomic CLR MKII at low volume.
THANKS!! :)

Thanks for sharing the link and your feedback on our profile.

Just to clarify the link you posted is the actual amp.

Here is the actual amp profile with Mark playing through it:



It is still I think our best rated and most sold profile and most expensive as well, but you get what you pay for.

Most people can't afford to spend 3500 or more for a "real" Mark amplifier but the Kemper is the next best thing. I mean nothing beats a real tube amp but nowadays who really has that type of money? Modeling is the way of the future.

Also 90% of our customers have been return customers for our profiles so we must be doing something right. :thumbsup:
 
Wow...this post is from 2013. And it was never meant to be an identical tone to Doug's tone. It just sounded good at the time to me with the gear I had at the time. Easy guys :lol: :LOL:
 
EXPcustom":2x8ixi5n said:
austriarock":2x8ixi5n said:
The profile is good... But I actually have the Cameron-Aldrich JMP profile that Cameron himself made and is more to my taste.

check it here:

https://youtu.be/YKGCkmVzLoo


However... his does not come with a cab impulse because he does not like how the Kemper sounds on a flat response monitor. This is a problem for those who don't have a cabinet that can get close to whatever he is using.
I for example have my beloved Mesa cab with Vintage 30s and it sounds great through it... but not like cameron's video because he uses an old Marshall cab.
I wouldn't trade my Mesa for a Marshall though... specially just to have that particular profile sound more accurate.
I also have an Atomic CLR MKII... But the Cab response I added was from a Michael Britt profile (one of a Friedman head paired with a 72 stock Marshall). and It wasn't doing the trick all that well.

The Peter W profile has a good cab that I copied and applied to my Aldrich profile and it did a great job..
So thanks to your post here.. I was able to go grab that profile from the Rig Exchange and extract the cabinet response and now my tone sounds better when playing through my Atomic CLR MKII at low volume.
THANKS!! :)

Thanks for sharing the link and your feedback on our profile.

Just to clarify the link you posted is the actual amp.

Here is the actual amp profile with Mark playing through it:



It is still I think our best rated and most sold profile and most expensive as well, but you get what you pay for.

Most people can't afford to spend 3500 or more for a "real" Mark amplifier but the Kemper is the next best thing. I mean nothing beats a real tube amp but nowadays who really has that type of money? Modeling is the way of the future.

Also 90% of our customers have been return customers for our profiles so we must be doing something right. :thumbsup:

That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?
 
napalmdeath":2sb81t1n said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.
 
EXPcustom":itpjoxva said:
napalmdeath":itpjoxva said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.

Theft from who?
 
napalmdeath":23xgm86p said:
EXPcustom":23xgm86p said:
napalmdeath":23xgm86p said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.

Theft from who?

Theft from whoever the creator of the IP belongs to, in this case me.

Is this 1998? Why are we even having this discussion? I think it's been well understood that copying and redistributing of intellectual property wether its music, software, or a Kemper profile is not only theft but illegal.
 
EXPcustom":31nvb7p5 said:
napalmdeath":31nvb7p5 said:
EXPcustom":31nvb7p5 said:
napalmdeath":31nvb7p5 said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.

Theft from who?

Theft from whoever the creator of the IP belongs to, in this case me.

Is this 1998? Why are we even having this discussion? I think it's been well understood that copying and redistributing of intellectual property wether its music, software, or a Kemper profile is not only theft but illegal.

That's funny.... Since when is a Kemper Profile "Intellectual Property"? I doubt you've trademarked, copyrighted, or patented your profile. But, I give it time, and the selling of profile for profit nonsense will come to an abrupt and legal end. Expecially when the sellers are using trademarked names/models, features, etc., to sell them. Atleast, I believe, there will be some stricter guidelines.

This, is how you sell your "more expensive" profile, by listing it "official", and using trademarked model info in your listings. Even with Marks blessing, (I know he has high standards and ethics), it's Intellectual Property", no? You can't trademark a tone, but using trademarked info to sell your products is theft as well, isn't it?
 
SkyhighRocks":16i9kefg said:
Insane Kemper profile from Peter W. This is from Doug Aldrich's personal Marshall JMP '68...and his settings! All guitars are me...with backing track providing drums, bass and keys

https://soundcloud.com/richantonelli/judgement-day-whitesnake

UPDATED! New clip

Live version of Love Ain't No Stranger. Was trying to play the solo from memory...most likely tanked it!

https://soundcloud.com/richantonelli/love-aint-no-stranger-live
I love that guitar sound ! Nice and tight and sounds like lots of GAIN !! I have been wondering when these tracks are being made,and using your track here as an example,when the guitar does its starts then stops with no noise then picks back up are you or is there some kind of noise suppresion being used/noise gate etc..?
 
napalmdeath":1ndtgfqm said:
EXPcustom":1ndtgfqm said:
napalmdeath":1ndtgfqm said:
EXPcustom":1ndtgfqm said:
napalmdeath":1ndtgfqm said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.

Theft from who?

Theft from whoever the creator of the IP belongs to, in this case me.

Is this 1998? Why are we even having this discussion? I think it's been well understood that copying and redistributing of intellectual property wether its music, software, or a Kemper profile is not only theft but illegal.

That's funny.... Since when is a Kemper Profile "Intellectual Property"? I doubt you've trademarked, copyrighted, or patented your profile. But, I give it time, and the selling of profile for profit nonsense will come to an abrupt and legal end. Expecially when the sellers are using trademarked names/models, features, etc., to sell them. Atleast, I believe, there will be some stricter guidelines.

This, is how you sell your "more expensive" profile, by listing it "official", and using trademarked model info in your listings. Even with Marks blessing, (I know he has high standards and ethics), it's Intellectual Property", no? You can't trademark a tone, but using trademarked info to sell your products is theft as well, isn't it?

I don't know how to respond to this... other than I think my IQ just got lower by reading this post.


What if I posted that I wished you lost your job or source of income? Wouldn't feel too good would it? I mean who really cares if someone is making money off profiles or amp models or IRs, last thing I would want is someone to not make money.
 
EXPcustom":mmhxcco8 said:
napalmdeath":mmhxcco8 said:
EXPcustom":mmhxcco8 said:
napalmdeath":mmhxcco8 said:
EXPcustom":mmhxcco8 said:
napalmdeath":mmhxcco8 said:
That sounds pretty good. Much better than the 2013 clip. I have a question..... Once somebody buys this profile, can they share/sell it?

If someone was to sell their Kemper profiler with the file already on it that would be fine, in fact it happens all the time. As for sharing the file that would be the same as buying any software and sharing it, it's theft.

Theft from who?

Theft from whoever the creator of the IP belongs to, in this case me.

Is this 1998? Why are we even having this discussion? I think it's been well understood that copying and redistributing of intellectual property wether its music, software, or a Kemper profile is not only theft but illegal.

That's funny.... Since when is a Kemper Profile "Intellectual Property"? I doubt you've trademarked, copyrighted, or patented your profile. But, I give it time, and the selling of profile for profit nonsense will come to an abrupt and legal end. Expecially when the sellers are using trademarked names/models, features, etc., to sell them. Atleast, I believe, there will be some stricter guidelines.

This, is how you sell your "more expensive" profile, by listing it "official", and using trademarked model info in your listings. Even with Marks blessing, (I know he has high standards and ethics), it's Intellectual Property", no? You can't trademark a tone, but using trademarked info to sell your products is theft as well, isn't it?

I don't know how to respond to this... other than I think my IQ just got lower by reading this post.


What if I posted that I wished you lost your job or source of income? Wouldn't feel too good would it? I mean who really cares if someone is making money off profiles or amp models or IRs, last thing I would want is someone to not make money.

Thinking your precious Kemper profiles are "Intellectual Property" probably needs an IQ reality check anyway. Ironic your seller name is "Sucker Free Gear", there's one born every minute, right?
 
I just wanted to add this is the reason why I think this forum has gone to shit in the last few years. No offense to Steve and Dan I love you guys!

It's been mostly "This sucks! That sucks! This guy is an asshole! That's too expensive! If you bought that for this much you're an idiot! I can put together a strat for under 400 bucks on Warmoth instead of buying that Anderson or Suhr! Amp modelers are all scams and sound like fizz I know because I was someone in 1986!"

I say if you feel so strongly about these issues well then go out and create something instead of bitching about it. Make awesome guitars in the USA and sell them for a 1000 dollars or less, go profile your own amps and give them away to everyone for free, I will be the first in line to support you.

In other words go do something to change things, bitching on an internet forum really just turns people off who have similar interests, makes them not want to share or go elsewhere and makes you seem like an old curmudgeon.
 
EXPcustom":n7852fnr said:
I just wanted to add this is the reason why I think this forum has gone to shit in the last few years. No offense to Steve and Dan I love you guys!

It's been mostly "This sucks! That sucks! This guy is an asshole! That's too expensive! If you bought that for this much you're an idiot! I can put together a strat for under 400 bucks on Warmoth instead of buying that Anderson or Suhr! Amp modelers are all scams and sound like fizz I know because I was someone in 1986!"

I say if you feel so strongly about these issues well then go out and create something instead of bitching about it. Make awesome guitars in the USA and sell them for a 1000 dollars or less, go profile your own amps and give them away to everyone for free, I will be the first in line to support you.

In other words go do something to change things, bitching on an internet forum really just turns people off who have similar interests, makes them not want to share or go elsewhere and makes you seem like an old curmudgeon.
I’ve been saying this for how long now? People have found refuge in this place to vent their negative attitude toward life. Problem is, other people don’t wanna hear that shit so they leave.
 
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