Is this proof of Multiverse or simply that the Universe is older than we thought or..... Both.... Or is it younger somehow?

[The~Kid]

Ive always figured there was Multiverse and this would point to that being a thing but it could also point to the Universe being older than initially believed.....


It was always believed though if there was Multiverse the distance of one universe to the next would be so far light from one would never reach another but probability/likelihood I figure would allow for the chance Even though it's infinitely small in chance.... The chance is there.....



I wonder....


Or both

 

[Monkey Man]

How 'bout adding an option for "younger"?

I'm all about limiting factors before one gets carried away building a house of cards, and boy, do they abound.

I ain't sayin' nothin'.

 

[The~Kid]

How 'bout adding an option for "younger"?

I'm all about limiting factors before one gets carried away building a house of cards, and boy, do they abound.

I ain't sayin' nothin'.

Hmmm time is relative so that could be possible too

 

[Monkey Man]

It's just that the options are indicative of the closed-loop that science operates in.

As I alluded to in other threads, there's simply no place for those who question foundational assumptions and the 14.5 (or whatever it is now - it inflates as the years go by) billion-year estimation.

If nothing else it might help some peeps keep an open mind.

 

[70 Mach 1]

Crazy stuff that i just cant understand.
Even how they know its nitrogen or whatever gas.
I have my star gazer app.
Point it and see something 50 LYs away and think oh wow. I was 12 when the light left there

Then realized thats just a stone throw away

Then stumble in something 600 LY away.
Look at it and say shit the new world wasn't even discovered yet

Ya cant tell me theres no other form of life out there someplace

May not be in human form. there has to be something even more intelligent and advanced or maybe even large reptiles

 

[JDs Couch]

You sheeple still believe space exists? Pfft

 

[VonBonfire]

You sheeple still believe the heavens exist?

Yes.

 

[Monkey Man]

I wonder where all the heavy elements came from.

IIRC you can't fuse past iron so the claim that they were all "made by stars" kinda doesn't jive wit' me.

Plus, the heavier you go, generally the more-unstable elements are, so how could they even still be around after billions of years.

 

[JDs Couch]

I wonder where all the heavy elements came from.

IIRC you can't fuse past iron so the claim that they were all "made by stars" kinda doesn't jive wit' me.

Plus, the heavier you go, generally the more-unstable elements are, so how could they even still be around after billions of years.

Obviously, they were made by this guy...

 

[Picasso]

DerKa DerKa pHoNeY iOmmI shErPa bAklAVa

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I wonder where all the heavy elements came from.

IIRC you can't fuse past iron so the claim that they were all "made by stars" kinda doesn't jive wit' me.

Plus, the heavier you go, generally the more-unstable elements are, so how could they even still be around after billions of years.

Heavier elements come from rapid neutron capture process (r-process) which takes place in either neutron star explosions or neutron star mergers. Current data indicates it happens more often in the latter.

When you say unstable element I assume you are talking about half-life and radioactive decay. Your use of the term element is inaccurate, isotope would be the term to use. Most elements have several natural isotopes with half-lives ranging from minutes to billions of years.
For example:
Uranium-238 has a half life of 4.5 billion years.
Francium-223's half life is about 20 minutes.
Francium is formed in nature by the decay of Uranium-235 which has a half life of about 700 million years. So as long as there is Uranium-235 there will be Francium; at least in trace amounts, as Uranium decays.

That's the simplest form of the explanation.

 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Heavier elements come from rapid neutron capture process (r-process) which takes place in either neutron star explosions or neutron star mergers. Current data indicates it happens more often in the latter.

When you say unstable element I assume you are talking about half-life and radioactive decay. Your use of the term element is inaccurate, isotope would be the term to use. Most elements have several natural isotopes with half-lives ranging from minutes to billions of years.
For example:
Uranium-238 has a half life of 4.5 billion years.
Francium-223's half life is about 20 minutes.
Francium is formed in nature by the decay of Uranium-235 which has a half life of about 700 million years. So as long as there is Uranium-235 there will be Francium; at least in trace amounts, as Uranium decays.

That's the simplest form of the explanation.

 

[Monkey Man]

Heavier elements come from rapid neutron capture process (r-process) which takes place in either neutron star explosions or neutron star mergers. Current data indicates it happens more often in the latter.

When you say unstable element I assume you are talking about half-life and radioactive decay. Your use of the term element is inaccurate, isotope would be the term to use. Most elements have several natural isotopes with half-lives ranging from minutes to billions of years.
For example:
Uranium-238 has a half life of 4.5 billion years.
Francium-223's half life is about 20 minutes.
Francium is formed in nature by the decay of Uranium-235 which has a half life of about 700 million years. So as long as there is Uranium-235 there will be Francium; at least in trace amounts, as Uranium decays.

That's the simplest form of the explanation.

Awesome, thanks brother!

Obviously, they were made by this guy...
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That 'splains it.

 

[The~Kid]

Hmmmmm.... What if

 

[The~Kid]

And it kinda makes sense again given General Relativity and Cosmic Inflation in a sense...... Multi-HelixVerse *_*

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Hmmmmm.... What if


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And it kinda makes sense again given General Relativity and Cosmic Inflation in a sense...... Multi-HelixVerse *_*


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Please explain further.

 

[NoHassle]

And it kinda makes sense again given General Relativity and Cosmic Inflation in a sense...... Multi-HelixVerse *_*


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This really says nothing at all...not to be mean but it is stating the obvious. A now, a future and a before...it's that simple.

The conceptual realisation of such things is beyond all of humanity and always will be.

We cannot, in any sense of the word, understand the creator, beyond the blue sky, the reason of creation and its existence.

Our conceit and animal need for power and control manifested religion, a man made construct, to be the divider and weapon it was, is and continues to be.

We construct a system known as science but again, a man made construct that will never know beyond this planet.

The tries will continue but mankind will never exist long enough to ever know...we're not meant to know as our design cannot be trusted no matter what as history forever proves.

We have and will continue to generate man made constructs to impress, control and personally gain from...it's who we are...by design.

 

[VonBonfire]

Our conceit and animal need for power and control manifested religion, a man made construct, to be the divider and weapon it was, is and continues to be.

One can come to know God only through Christ. Christ is a historical figure, who testified that the works of world are evil. Most people choose to reject his call to repentance instead favoring imaginary gods who do not exist, demons, unbelief, or self-worship. His testimony is preserved by an unbroken chain of apostles, disciples, and the one holy catholic apostolic and orthodox church which also continues the call to repentance, not to assert worldly control. It was meant to be divisive. Matt 10:34-36 "I come not to bring peace, but a sword For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household."

 

[NoHassle]

One can come to know God only through Christ. Christ is a historical figure, who testified that the works of world are evil. Most people choose to reject his call to repentance instead favoring imaginary gods who do not exist, demons, unbelief, or self-worship. His testimony is preserved by an unbroken chain of apostles, disciples, and the one holy catholic apostolic and orthodox church which also continues the call to repentance, not to assert worldly control. It was meant to be divisive. Matt 10:34-36 "I come not to bring peace, but a sword For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person's enemies will be those of his own household."

I FULLY understand this is your chosen belief and I rarely if ever challenge you about it.

My belief is different.

 

[The~Kid]

Please explain further.

Well figure 1 is just the universe...... Mexican Sombrero......


Figure 2 are essentially Upside Down Mexican Sombreros explaining basic MultiVerse, they never touch as illustrated by the infinite void where separation between them is infinite even as they expand infinitely so they essentially never touch.


Figure 3 are Mexican Sombreros coupled over one another and if you do that you kind of get the start and end of a universe and the beginning of a new one after the one before ends and another concept of Multiverse but in Helix model.


Also if you look at the model for General Relativity based on an observers view point of light you get a similar model and essentially a helix type shape I'd you stack the model on top of itself....... so I don't know.....



Just kind of throwing crap out there and smoking some good weed too