Is this proof of Multiverse or simply that the Universe is older than we thought or..... Both.... Or is it younger somehow?

[The~Kid]

This really says nothing at all...not to be mean but it is stating the obvious. A now, a future and a before...it's that simple.

The conceptual realisation of such things is beyond all of humanity and always will be.

We cannot, in any sense of the word, understand the creator, beyond the blue sky, the reason of creation and its existence.

Our conceit and animal need for power and control manifested religion, a man made construct, to be the divider and weapon it was, is and continues to be.

We construct a system known as science but again, a man made construct that will never know beyond this planet.

The tries will continue but mankind will never exist long enough to ever know...we're not meant to know as our design cannot be trusted no matter what as history forever proves.

We have and will continue to generate man made constructs to impress, control and personally gain from...it's who we are...by design.

Straight from Zohran Mamdanis Communist/Socialist Manifesto

 

[VonBonfire]

I FULLY understand this is your chosen belief and I rarely if ever challenge you about it.

My belief is different.

But it is a challenge when you number it (among other religions) as an invention and a tool designed for control. My dear brother I have posted six pages of saints, many of whom died at the hands of pagans, kings, and even other supposed "believers" for upholding the faith given by Christ. The narrow way isn't a mode meant for dominating others, but is the ladder to heaven itself. I guess that's all I have to say. Be blessed.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Well figure 1 is just the universe...... Mexican Sombrero......


Figure 2 are essentially Upside Down Mexican Sombreros explaining basic MultiVerse, they never touch as illustrated by the infinite void where separation between them is infinite even as they expand infinitely so they essentially never touch.


Figure 3 are Mexican Sombreros coupled over one another and if you do that you kind of get the start and end of a universe and the beginning of a new one after the one before ends and another concept of Multiverse but in Helix model.


Also if you look at the model for General Relativity based on an observers view point of light you get a similar model and essentially a helix type shape I'd you stack the model on top of itself....... so I don't know.....



Just kind of throwing crap out there and smoking some good weed too

Not what i meant. I understand the pictures. I meant explain the theory and maybe some math behind them.

 

[The~Kid]

Not what i meant. I understand the pictures. I meant explain the theory and maybe some math behind them.

Well um.......


Don't know any physics level maths but the logic here is regarding Cosmic Inflation it makes sense regarding figure 2 in laymans and also when you look at the topography and architecture of the universe this makes sense especially with the upside down Mexican Sombreros and infinite void.


The even dispersal and topography/architecture of the universe we see can be explained by figure 2 and the upside down sombrerors.


Figure 3 takes it further because there is an even dispersal to the start of the universe which is observable and sort of an even collapse or dispersal in the figure one can say at the end of the universe thanks to the same effect of Cosmic Inflation.




Best way I could put it is imagine hour glasses vertically stacked on top of one another, each hour glass or set would be a cycle through universes, between the old ones and the new ones and vice versa given that time is relative as well.


Maybe there isnt just one Multi-HelixVerse either and in a sense Multiple....... MultiVerses.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Well um.......


Don't know any physics level maths but the logic here is regarding Cosmic Inflation it makes sense regarding figure 2 in laymans and also when you look at the topography and architecture of the universe this makes sense especially with the upside down Mexican Sombreros and infinite void.


The even dispersal and topography/architecture of the universe we see can be explained by figure 2 and the upside down sombrerors.


Figure 3 takes it further because there is an even dispersal to the start of the universe which is observable and sort of an even collapse or dispersal in the figure one can say at the end of the universe thanks to the same effect of Cosmic Inflation.




Best way I could put it is imagine hour glasses vertically stacked on top of one another, each hour glass or set would be a cycle through universes, between the old ones and the new ones and vice versa given that time is relative as well.


Maybe there isnt just one Multi-HelixVerse either and in a sense Multiple....... MultiVerses.

So basically you drew a couple of pictures, called them "Mexican sombreros", threw in some random physics terms, said it makes sense, but can't explain the meaning of anything or even concept behind it. AKA: as usual, spouting off not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

 

[NoHassle]

But it is a challenge when you number it (among other religions) as an invention and a tool designed for control. My dear brother I have posted six pages of saints, many of whom died at the hands of pagans, kings, and even other supposed "believers" for upholding the faith given by Christ. The narrow way isn't a mode meant for dominating others, but is the ladder to heaven itself. I guess that's all I have to say. Be blessed.

Again, my belief is different and my comments are based on actual evidence throughout history.

I respect your beliefs, they are yours but not mine.

 

[NoHassle]

Straight from Zohran Mamdanis Communist/Socialist Manifesto

You're the kind of people I was vaguely referencing...thanks for the confirmation numb nuts.

When you fully understand what I posted try an additional response.

 

[shit butt poop party]

Maybe science is filled with people that are full of shit and greatly oversell there knowledge in order to get funding?

 

[The~Kid]

So basically you drew a couple of pictures, called them "Mexican sombreros", threw in some random physics terms, said it makes sense, but can't explain the meaning of anything or even concept behind it. AKA: as usual, spouting off not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

Yeah yeah.......

Again the figures and the logic to hand and hand with Cosmic Inflation, Expansion of the Universe we know is happening and can detect/measure, the actually topology and architecture of the universe and explains both the uniformed even dispersal at the start of the universe or a universe or universes in this case and their end.


Its even better than the Bubble Model of multiverse. Its still rough around the edges but it's not bad.......

What's so hard to understand here or what haven't I explained, these are pretty much the core things the figures go over in general especially figure 3. Just had the idea after some coffee. I've been trying to describe it and visualize it f or some time but had some good coffee and did that piece on Einstein and it just kind of came to me

 

[VonBonfire]

Again, my belief is different and my comments are based on actual evidence throughout history.

There is enough evidence for Christ that even non-believing historical scholars acknowledge he was a historical figure, so I don't know what you mean. It's not speculative unless you are disputing the resurrection itself.

 

[Kordoba]

Upside Down Mexican Sombreros

And don't forget Upside Down Woks worn as hats.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Yeah yeah.......

Again the figures and the logic to hand and hand with Cosmic Inflation, Expansion of the Universe we know is happening and can detect/measure, the actually topology and architecture of the universe and explains both the uniformed even dispersal at the start of the universe or a universe or universes in this case and their end.


Its even better than the Bubble Model of multiverse. Its still rough around the edges but it's not bad.......

What's so hard to understand here or what haven't I explained, these are pretty much the core things the figures go over in general especially figure 3. Just had the idea after some coffee. I've been trying to describe it and visualize it f or some time but had some good coffee and did that piece on Einstein and it just kind of came to me

You do realize all you've done was draw an extremely oversimplified picture of the cyclical universe theory; which BTW has mostly been disproven, don't you?

 

[The~Kid]

You do realize all you've done was draw an extremely oversimplified picture of the cyclical universe theory; which BTW has mostly been disproven, don't you?

Yeah yeah whatever.......

Suck it

 

[Uzi Nein Millimetah]

Seepy time....

Multi-Verse?

I don't think anyone living today will ever see true contact/communication with space aliens or make it past Mars, and we essentially already know what is there and what it would be like to live there. Would just be a life confined life to a pod or craft without gear. And things that are thousands of light years away are utterly irrelevant to me unless we can create dimensional gates to reach them. I'd like to go back to a planet that is a mirror image of the Earth in 1980 please with my current wealth and knowledge, but I'm 18 years old.

We have more than enough problems to deal with on Earth, especially in the West. I do care about aliens----ILLEGAL ALIENS. Let's get back to the Big Purge. And Europe needs to START their purge, Traitors first, then Third World offal. Let's focus our scientific pursuits on the path to totally erase Bolshevism from the Earth.

 

[VonBonfire]

Seepy time....

Multi-Verse?

I don't think anyone living today will ever see true contact/communication with space aliens or make it past Mars, and we essentially already know what is there and what it would be like to live there. Would just be a life confined life to a pod or craft without gear. And things that are thousands of light years away are utterly irrelevant to me unless we can create dimensional gates to reach them. I'd like to go back to a planet that is a mirror image of the Earth in 1980 please with my current wealth and knowledge, but I'm 18 years old.

We have more than enough problems to deal with on Earth, especially in the West. I do care about aliens----ILLEGAL ALIENS. Let's get back to the Big Purge. And Europe needs to START their purge, Traitors first, then Third World offal. Let's focus our scientific pursuits on the path to totally erase Bolshevism from the Earth.

Wait, you're only 18?

1980 was better than today, but it was still a steaming pile of crap so don't listen to oldheads regale you with tales about it's supposed awesomeness. It's like saying bathing in urine is better than bathing in excrement. It has some truth, but you're still bathing in bodily fluid.

As for making contact....just get yourself a book on black magick and start dedicating yourself to it (actually, don't). The alien contact will happen because "aliens" is just bs newspeak for demons kind of like "space" is newspeak for the heavens. My best to you Uzi.

 

[Uzi Nein Millimetah]

Wait, you're only 18?

1980 was better than today, but it was still a steaming pile of crap so don't listen to oldheads regale you with tales about it's supposed awesomeness. It's like saying bathing in urine is better than bathing in excrement. It has some truth, but you're still bathing in bodily fluid.

As for making contact....just get yourself a book on black magick and start dedicating yourself to it (actually, don't). The alien contact will happen because "aliens" is just bs newspeak for demons kind of like "space" is newspeak for the heavens. My best to you Uzi.

No, but I would be in my imaginary Earth2^1980. Just in time to catch Ozzy with Randy Rhoads, among watching other new metal bands emerge, watch turbo F1 cars and Group C prototypes and 500cc 2-stroke MotoGP bikes race in person, and later buy Apple and Microsoft stock when they were nobodies.

It would be a good age to fully indulge in the '80s. I was around then, but a very young yoof.

 

[NoHassle]

There is enough evidence for Christ that even non-believing historical scholars acknowledge he was a historical figure, so I don't know what you mean. It's not speculative unless you are disputing the resurrection itself.

I agree there was a Jesus but I don't believe he was the son of a God...A local prophet with good societal intentions for sure he was.

We still can't understand how the pyramids were built, we can't trust people and authorities today, the killing is today, was yesterday and many millennia ago. Also, Charlton Heston wasn't Moses or John the Baptist as Hollywood would have us believe. We're warring manipulative creatures who can't be trusted as proven by as long as recorded time itself.

To believe what was written by humans who are totally flawed and can't be proven is a subjective choice.

Again, I respect this is your belief and I don't want to argue with you.

I too have a right to believe what I choose and you are of course free to dismiss my belief.

As they say..."whatever gets you through a day".

 

[The~Kid]

Also while this may seem similar to a Cyclical Model it's pretty different.....


In a Cyclical Model the same universe gets recycled in a sense.....


My Multi-HelixVerse shows that each universe is new unto itself.


Nvm that the Cyclical Model doesn't account and actually contradicts Cosmic Inflation which my model supports and is supported by.

It's hard to explain though for example given Cosmic Inflation why the Mexican Sombrero doesn't simply infinitely expand but simply put there isn't enough matter at some point, dark energy wins and you end up having Space/Time stretching faster than the speed of light in a sense diluting matter and the universe as if dividing 1 by infinity to the power of infinity or the universe by 0 or something...... Then nothing but endless void or the illusion of one followed by another singularity or as Hawkings said a universe "spontaneously out of nothing"......


And essentially an infinite expansion under a Cosmic Inflation model behaves just like a HelixVerse when it gets to the "squeeze" or end of the universe with "pocket universes" essentially the next singularity and universe in the HelixVerse model.


Another nice thing is the HelixVerse Model also essentially looks like waves/frequencies aside from the DNA Helix structure and essentially forms of structures naturally taken from nature/the universe...... Pretty cool



Also in a sense time is relative so we can look at the "stretch" or start and expansion of universes under this model and the end or "squeeze" of it as pretty much the same relative to the singularity

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Also while this may seem similar to a Cyclical Model it's pretty different.....


In a Cyclical Model the same universe gets recycled in a sense.....


My Multi-HelixVerse shows that each universe is new unto itself.


Nvm that the Cyclical Model doesn't account and actually contradicts Cosmic Inflation which my model supports and is supported by.

It's hard to explain though for example given Cosmic Inflation why the Mexican Sombrero doesn't simply infinitely expand but simply put there isn't enough matter at some point, dark energy wins and you end up having Space/Time stretching faster than the speed of light in a sense diluting matter and the universe as if dividing 1 by infinity to the power of infinity or the universe by 0 or something...... Then nothing but endless void or the illusion of one followed by another singularity or as Hawkings said a universe "spontaneously out of nothing"......


And essentially an infinite expansion under a Cosmic Inflation model behaves just like a HelixVerse when it gets to the "squeeze" or end of the universe with "pocket universes" essentially the next singularity and universe in the HelixVerse model.


Another nice thing is the HelixVerse Model also essentially looks like waves/frequencies aside from the DNA Helix structure and essentially forms of structures naturally taken from nature/the universe...... Pretty cool



Also in a sense time is relative so we can look at the "stretch" or start and expansion of universes under this model and the end or "squeeze" of it as pretty much the same relative to the singularity

Dude, it's 100% obvious you're spouting gibberish and talking out your ass. You haven't come up with some grand unifying model/theory proving the multiverse from a couple of doodles while sipping on coffee beating all the astrophysics experts. I wouldn't even call it coherent thought. Just give it a rest already.

This meme sums it up nicely...

 

[Floyd Eye]

Drugs are bad.