JVM vs Rectifier

[Shiny_Surface]

lol necro bumped by a 1 post account.

Had both amps, people want to compare them because they each have 4 channels. That's where the similarity ends, it's a futile comparison imo.

I prefer regular Triple Rectifier's (2 channel and reborn especially) over the Roadster I had. The Roadster was darker and less aggressive, and channel 2 brit was frustrating to work with for my needs.

As for the JVM I liked it, but didn't need all the features. So I like to use my old Marshalls for the signature crunch sounds of yesteryear.

 

[Sarmation]

Well ya have to stick ya first post somewhere and everyone seems to not know how to get mid crunch outa a mesa roadster.Just turn that treble completely off and you'll get do marshall crunch better then marshall does it.

 

[Heritage Softail]

Cheap DSL, add a 5150 used and for 1K you have a solid rig that covers miles of territory.

 

[mindseye]

Do yourself a favor and play a VH4, it's just a all around a amazing amp!
I played a Recto for years and while I will always have a spot in my heart for them the VH4 just kick's it up to a different level.

A budy lent me his JVM for a week and it's a nice amp but playing it next to the Diezel left me really uninspired with the JVM, he is going to do some mod's to it so maybe that will take it from a cool ok amp to a really great amp.

 

[guitarmike]

I bought a JVM because of this video:

With a Marshall cab loaded with G12-T75's dial your JVM as shown in the video and you will have these tones. Whether or not so you sound as good is a different question, that dude is good!

 

[thiswaythatway]

If you want the history of rock under your fingers go with the Marshall. More versatile, easier to dial in, etc.


If you want an amp for one-finger detuned sludge, the Mesa is the ticket.

Well that's it, history, and that's where 98% of Marshall's greatest tones are. But you know as well as I do that in the 1970's what else was there to play? If the guys in the 70's had the choices they did now more than half of them wouldn't have been playing Marshall. What amp has Blackmore's name on it? Not a Marshall. For combo amps I think Mesa has Marshall beat my a mile and Mashall followed Mesa's lead with 3 and 4 channel amps, bit of a role reversal there. However I do find Mesa's Brit tone quest to be a wrong move mostly from a marketing standpoint.

While I agree than many guys dial in their Recto's for one-finger sludge tones you can dial in Mesa's for more. And they make other amps besides Recto's, I think they finally got things right with the Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic.

 

[carlygtr]

If you want the history of rock under your fingers go with the Marshall. More versatile, easier to dial in, etc.


If you want an amp for one-finger detuned sludge, the Mesa is the ticket.

Well that's it, history, and that's where 98% of Marshall's greatest tones are. But you know as well as I do that in the 1970's what else was there to play? If the guys in the 70's had the choices they did now more than half of them wouldn't have been playing Marshall. What amp has Blackmore's name on it? Not a Marshall. For combo amps I think Mesa has Marshall beat my a mile and Mashall followed Mesa's lead with 3 and 4 channel amps, bit of a role reversal there. However I do find Mesa's Brit tone quest to be a wrong move mostly from a marketing standpoint.

While I agree than many guys dial in their Recto's for one-finger sludge tones you can dial in Mesa's for more. And they make other amps besides Recto's, I think they finally got things right with the Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic.

I owned many many Mesa amps, so I'm not a hater. The sound diferences between a JVM and a Rectifier are quite clear. It's not like they are remotely covering the same ground.....so to the OP one of those tones will be what you want to hear.

That said, in the 70's guys used Marshall, Hiwatt, Vox, Fender, etc. If the guys in the 70's had the choices they do now, it would be 98% Marshall ripoffs anyway.

Blackmore used Vox and Marshall. The amp bearing his name, the Engl, he doesn't even use. He's used the Engl combos and the Savage. His sound is derived thru his tape recorder and/or treble booster, so the amp is hardly relevant.

 

[thiswaythatway]

If you want the history of rock under your fingers go with the Marshall. More versatile, easier to dial in, etc.


If you want an amp for one-finger detuned sludge, the Mesa is the ticket.

Well that's it, history, and that's where 98% of Marshall's greatest tones are. But you know as well as I do that in the 1970's what else was there to play? If the guys in the 70's had the choices they did now more than half of them wouldn't have been playing Marshall. What amp has Blackmore's name on it? Not a Marshall. For combo amps I think Mesa has Marshall beat my a mile and Mashall followed Mesa's lead with 3 and 4 channel amps, bit of a role reversal there. However I do find Mesa's Brit tone quest to be a wrong move mostly from a marketing standpoint.

While I agree than many guys dial in their Recto's for one-finger sludge tones you can dial in Mesa's for more. And they make other amps besides Recto's, I think they finally got things right with the Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic.

I owned many many Mesa amps, so I'm not a hater. The sound diferences between a JVM and a Rectifier are quite clear. It's not like they are remotely covering the same ground.....so to the OP one of those tones will be what you want to hear.

That said, in the 70's guys used Marshall, Hiwatt, Vox, Fender, etc. If the guys in the 70's had the choices they do now, it would be 98% Marshall ripoffs anyway.

Blackmore used Vox and Marshall. The amp bearing his name, the Engl, he doesn't even use. He's used the Engl combos and the Savage. His sound is derived thru his tape recorder and/or treble booster, so the amp is hardly relevant.

Well Blackmore would be better off plugging into a flute since he's making music that gay midgets can dance to. In the 70's I don't think anyone looked to Vox or Fender for a stack, it was Marshall and I guess Orange and Hiwatt to a lesser extent, but the choices were limited.

Yes I agree, the Recto and JVM are not in the same ballpark so the OP may want to play both first. And usually I am a recto hater, from time to time I plug in and hear something I like only to plug in another time and I feel like lighting it on fire. While the Recto is/was the amp for many bands i hated in the 90's early 2000's, I'm not going to blame Mesa for the 1 finger garbage those guys played. I have been an outspoken Mark V hater I wanted a IIC+ but didn't get it with that overloaded cardboard sounding box.

 

[glassjaw7]

So yeah, just get a Mark IV

 

[thiswaythatway]

You can say what you want, but I saw a guy play a JVM the other day on a gig around my home town and damn, he played cheap guitars and shitty effects and all, but he sounded just awesome. He had that 410 really dialed in to a T.

I don't like the feel of Rectifieres, whenever I play them, I feel like I'd have to turn them louder to get more spank and edge, but it ain't happening.

Are you the same guy posting the Electra Dyne clips on the Mesa forum? While the Electra Dyne and Royal Atlantic don't sound exactly like Marshalls, they sure as hell don't sound like Recto's. I find Recto's easy to make sound shitty and I have to tweak to get anything I like. The Electra Dyne and Royal and very easy to just set tone controls at noon and play from there.

Again, I think Mesa should lose their Hard-on for Brit this and Brit that. Just call it crunch or whatever.

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Mesa's idea of brit is to pile on a ton of treble and make the sound real thin, which I know some Marshall's are like that but their formula just sounds off for that kind of vibe imo.

That was my biggest frustration with my old Roadster was that danged channel 2 brit mode.

 

[colimofsmoke]

Agree. The channel 2 Brit mode is terrible.

 

[thiswaythatway]

Mesa's idea of brit is to pile on a ton of treble and make the sound real thin, which I know some Marshall's are like that but their formula just sounds off for that kind of vibe imo.

That was my biggest frustration with my old Roadster was that danged channel 2 brit mode.

The Stiletto was like that as well. Thin and bright.