JVM vs Rectifier

[Rayneman]

I have a JVM 410 and a 3 channel Triple Rec. I really like them both, but they aren't really comparable IMO. The Mesa comes with the "Mesa" tone, big super low end chunk and "big" sound. However, the Marshall has the "immediate" punchy crunch sound and feel that the Mesa doesn't really do. If I had to choose between the two, I think I'd go with the Marshall because I think it covers more ground, but it depends on the application. For my original music and band I definitely prefer the Recto, but for the cover band gig, I'd always go with the Marshall.

The Marshall has the "put everything at 12:00" and it sounds good thing, while the Mesa definitely requires tweaking and (most importantly) a loud band mix/stage environment to really come into its own.

 

[kasperjensen]

I owned a Rectifier Roadster... And a JVM. I must say that, the JVM is probably one of the best amps out there. (Versatility, price, sound... the lot). In my opinion that is.

 

[cml694]

Well I think I should go with the JVM other the Rec for now. I owned a Road King II and wasn't in love with it so maybe I should try something different. I'll somehow try to get to Mesa Boogie in Hollywood and compare the Dual rec with the Mark V, and give the JVM a run again. This should do it. I tried the EVH 5150 III and loved ch 1 and 3 but didn't like ch 2.

 

[gtr31]

seriously if you go to Boogie hollywood .Check out the royal atlantic .it surprised me how much overdrive it had

 

[Roland]

Hmmm...thanks for the info so far. I owned a Road King II that was great but it didn't knock me off my feet because I was expecting it to have more grind and aggressiveness hence why I want to give the Rec another try. I've always liked the JVM and the main issue I have with it is the overlap on a lot of the channels and how it can get pretty fizzy (IME) at lower volumes.

I want to like the Mark V but I feel it is just lacking something. I also have been looking at OD100SE+ and PT100 but there is the CAA graininess that I'm not in love with.

BRO! You want grind and fat ass brutal tone? Tremoverb!!!! If you can find a '93 grab it, if not get something older than '02. Mark IIC+s are also bad ass amps!

I completely get what your saying about Tri Recto's compared to dual Recto's. It's those 50watts bro.


EDIT: Forget the JVM, have you tried a Rockerverb 100? If Bane fucked an '81 JCM 2203, a Rockerverb 100 would be the love child.

 

[mrkmas]

I definitely prefer the JVM over a rectifier. I find the JVM much easier to dial in, and much more versatile with all of its features compared to the rec. Rectifiers for some reason never did much more me when I play them.

 

[cml694]

Around $2500. I've seen a few around there but when I get money there are none for sale and the ones that are (on feebay) are expensive. Not sure if I'll go that route but it's an option. I know you had a Mark V and you said it was a doorstop compared to your VH4.

BTW, I was looking of netmusicians and this has to be some of my favorite metal tone I've heard in a long time

 

[leib10]

JVM's got it beat on versatility. Probably a little easier to dial in too.

 

[Chris O]

JVM's got it beat on versatility. Probably a little easier to dial in too.

Yep. 5 minutes to awesome tone.

 

[155]

yeah this is apples to oranges here, that said I own both and for verstility I go with the JVM, just matters what tone you are looking for..

 

[cml694]

Fuck, I forgot about the Tremoverb. I remember playing one years ago and it was brootal as hell and had great mid gain tones. I might just get one amp and if that doesn't work get the other. They had JVMs fairly inexpensive at GC so I could probably pick one up and if it doesn't do it for me get rid of it and Recto/Mark or the other way around.

I had the same WOW experience the first time I played the Roadster, and I know Rectos boosted are badass. I still have my Diezel cab as well so maybe before I off that I'd give a VH4 a try, don't want to spend that much cash again, but if it does what I want I don't care.

 

[headlessdeadguy]

My other guitar player has a JVM and it kills the triple recto he used to have.

 

[just42dave]

seriously if you go to Boogie hollywood .Check out the royal atlantic .it surprised me how much overdrive it had

i have an RA and a JVM love them both!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sarmation]

Owner of a roadster it does the trick.If ya want mid punch in a recto?Go to it and turn the treble completely off.Volume will increase and the mids will scream out.I'm able to even get a Cult harsh mid tone out this way.Thanks me later:>

 

[thiswaythatway]

I often plug into Recto's and dislike them but I tried a Roadster combo yesterday and liked it a lot. Yes, it took some tweaking but were talking only a few minutes, it can sound like shit easily if you just plug in and expect a good tone. I tried shutting the presence off and raising treble but that didn't work, tried a few other things and got it to sound really good for a big fat gain tone.

And I 100% disagree when other's say the JVM is more versatile. The JVM just sounds like different levels of gain over the same base tone. With the Roadster you can get 4 channels that sound totally different, and I got something useful out of channel 2 on Brit mode.

Well, I guess it depends on what you're idea of versatility is as both can be very suitable for a variety of situations.

But I know one thing, a Roadster with a good OD pedal and an EQ pedal in the loop would really deliver some serious heavy sounds. And the MID know is your friend.

 

[glassjaw7]

And I 100% disagree when other's say the JVM is more versatile. The JVM just sounds like different levels of gain over the same base tone. With the Roadster you can get 4 channels that sound totally different, and I got something useful out of channel 2 on Brit mode.

Bringing back an oldie! Ok, so I have tried several JVMs (plugged into a few different ones with different cabs/speakers) and I'm just not overly impressed with it. It doesn't have anything special or inspiring happening with it's tone IMO. It's a decent amp for sure and I could gig it, but I would look into so many other amps before this one (such as a Splawn or 5150 III which I feel both blow it away) It's a bit dull and lifeless and as I've said before, the voicing and overall tone seem to be "generic". As far as versatility, I agree with Danyeo. The Roadster gives you 4 completely different tones. Even the regular 3 channel rectos are incredibly versatile. Oh, and Mesas are not difficult to dial in at all. I mean, everyone uses them right? There are settings posted everywhere and for those who can't "dial one in" on their own you can go on the boogie board or even start with the settings in the manual which are decent and go from there.

Again, not bashing the JVM-it's actually a very useable amp and I've heard great recordings of them, but for me they just don't offer any "vibe" or anything special. Looking forward to the Satriani sig version!

 

[Digital Jams]

Would love to own both, one for cutting marshall mids and one for punishing lower end.

 

[carlygtr]

If you want the history of rock under your fingers go with the Marshall. More versatile, easier to dial in, etc.


If you want an amp for one-finger detuned sludge, the Mesa is the ticket.

 

[Badronald]

If you want the history of rock under your fingers go with the Marshall. More versatile, easier to dial in, etc.


If you want an amp for one-finger detuned sludge, the Mesa is the ticket.

Cupcake strikes again with a ridiculous sweeping generalization.

A JVM, the history of rock? My JTM45?

My Triple Rec crushes. I haven't played a Marshall in years that approaches the character of my Mesa. Seems like the new Yngwie sig is great, but besides that......

 

[colimofsmoke]

When I first got my roadster, I didn't like it, but now that I do, I really do. And versatility: whoa. My friend who's a pretty ripping bluesy tele player came over and played through it on channel 1 and 2 and was blown away by how good it sounded, as was I. Played a couple jvm's in shops and just plain didn't like them.