SFW
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While the Quickrod is a killer amp, I think the 5153 has a better master volume, and doesn't need to be turned up as loud to get the goods. Just my two cents. Plus you can get a used 100 for about $1k.
BYTOR
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SFW":b5t429k7 said:
Does the Amp Gizmo work well with the 5153 ? Do you still use the footswitch that comes with the amp?
cardinal
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If you really want to keep it simple, just buy a used DSL 50 (look for an early one with Drame transformers) and a Marshall cab. Should get out with the whole thing for under a grand.
SFW
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BYTOR":sgg3tpi4 said:
The amp gizmo works great. I use an ADA midi controller to control channel changes on the amp as well as program changes on my TC G major 2. When I play shows, I drop a grand total of five cables. Two audio cables from my pedalboard, one midi cable from my pedal board and the midi cable running from my rack to the back of the amp. I can have my whole rig set up in less than 10 minutes.
barnesjd
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cardinal":2mjarb33 said:
Not a bad option. DSL100 was my first amp. For your style, you should be able to just plug right in. I was in a metal band at the time, so an inexpensive ($40 or so) Digitech Bad Monkey did the trick.
You also asked about power tubes. Stick with EL34s. No need to pay extra for those others IMO.
lespaul6
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Way to go! simple = best in my experience... I dont even have effects loops!
David_kessler
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My local shop, $1800 out the door.
Chris O
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tubortski":1zrfoh8g said:I like simple
Quickrod is a good one.
I agree.
Grab a beat up 80's Marshall, put some Greenbacks in it, and go to town. If it's 80's tone you're after, this gets it in spades. The QR is an amp I do miss, but luckily, the model on the AxeFx nails it.
Kapo_Polenton
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David_kessler":34zcp097 said:
My local shop, $1800 out the door.
Wow, that looks like a storm trooper! That price can't include the cab?
Kapo_Polenton
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Just to add to the thread though, I also see DSL50/100's _ 1960 cab routinely for 900-1000$.
David_kessler
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Sure does!
craftm1
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A Splawn Quick Rod and forget about it, you'll be rocking it all night. And I played my first 6 years sneaking in the back doors of bars, playing our set and sneaking back out!
barnesjd
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David_kessler":wlh39ato said:
Holy crap... I may have to drive up to Bristol for reasons other than the mecca known as the speedway.
Michi
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I used to gig the small gigs, pubs and whatnot pizzerias, with a 6U rack and a 2x12. It fit well everywhere too.
But there's something about a head and a 4x12
. Not a bad choice at all!
I'm sure the QR is right up your alley. Hard to say anything about it as I've not had the pleasure of trying one out (had a bad case of GAS for one abt 4 years ago though
). I'll just throw in something a bit different: Marshall JVM205H. I snatched one for a steal on eBay UK and had it shipped directly Dan Gower for some Calimod work 
. Just got word from him yesterday that the amp is ready to be shipped. I paid $709 for the amp shipped to Dan and with the mod it'll be near your $1000 budget as well. I dunno if you're interested in that sort of thing etc but that's one thing to consider.
But there's something about a head and a 4x12
. Not a bad choice at all!I'm sure the QR is right up your alley. Hard to say anything about it as I've not had the pleasure of trying one out (had a bad case of GAS for one abt 4 years ago though
). I'll just throw in something a bit different: Marshall JVM205H. I snatched one for a steal on eBay UK and had it shipped directly Dan Gower for some Calimod work . Just got word from him yesterday that the amp is ready to be shipped. I paid $709 for the amp shipped to Dan and with the mod it'll be near your $1000 budget as well. I dunno if you're interested in that sort of thing etc but that's one thing to consider.
311boogieman
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I'll just +1 the Quick Rod and the 5153.
If you end up with a QR and playing in 50w mode mostly like I do, then you'll want to pull 2 tubes and rebias like rlord1974 was saying.
I'd go with EL34s as well. On the QR you'd need to change the screen grid resistor to run KT88s anyway. But as you've probably realized, there are several different types of Splawns (ie Pro Mod) that ship with KT88s. They are def loud amps. The volume sweep is pretty much between 9am and 10:30am on the dial. Anything outside of that is pointless.
Unless you are real picky about buying new and having a custom tolex job you can probably just pick up one up used whenever you are ready. I'm not sure why people get hard ons for custom tolex
Also, teh Splawn cabs really are not that expensive for what you get. They are some of the best made cabs around and the Small Blocks work so well. Scott Splawn provides some of the best customer service in the business as well.
v....LOL
If you end up with a QR and playing in 50w mode mostly like I do, then you'll want to pull 2 tubes and rebias like rlord1974 was saying.
I'd go with EL34s as well. On the QR you'd need to change the screen grid resistor to run KT88s anyway. But as you've probably realized, there are several different types of Splawns (ie Pro Mod) that ship with KT88s. They are def loud amps. The volume sweep is pretty much between 9am and 10:30am on the dial. Anything outside of that is pointless.
Unless you are real picky about buying new and having a custom tolex job you can probably just pick up one up used whenever you are ready. I'm not sure why people get hard ons for custom tolex
Also, teh Splawn cabs really are not that expensive for what you get. They are some of the best made cabs around and the Small Blocks work so well. Scott Splawn provides some of the best customer service in the business as well.v....LOL
Ventura
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Says the guy with a mack-daddy racing striped custom tolexed Splawn in his avatar311splawndude":35p8faub said:
Kapo_Polenton
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David_kessler":1jrponht said:
Do they ship just the heads? That's crazy price points. One day i think i'll own the single channel competition. I don't need no cleans!
Red_Label
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Why do you have to have a Splawn? I had a KILLER Marshall DSL50 last year that would have been GREAT for most rock gigs. What amps did I "downgrade" to the Marshall from? I'd been playing/gigging Bogner XTC Classic, Bogner EL34 Shiva, Lickliter Rage prototype, Engl Powerball II and VHT Ultra Lead heads into Bogner and Marshall 4X12s and 2X12s over the previous year. I'd also had a Aiken Sabre, Bogner Uberschall Twin Jet and Elmwood M60 in my possession. So I've had some "holy grail" boutique amps.
I only traded-off the DSL because I'd been in full acoustic mode over the past year. But I'm back in rock mode again and right now my simple, single-channel Marshall JCM800 2203X has me more inspired than I've felt in years. It has THAT sound. But guess what? That DSL50 on the green channel in crunch mode with the deep switch on had THAT sound as well. It was a GREAT amp and I remember thinking at the time that if it was good enough for the likes of Gary Moore and Iron Maiden, it was good enough for me.
I'm beyond tired of chasing tone with boutique gear. Like some others here, I grew-up, learned to play, and started gigging in the 80s. And before the whole rack craze had us all chasing blinged-out racks with blinky lights in the late 80s and early 90s... it was just a guitar, a TS9, and maybe another pedal or two into a Marshall. And it was AWESOME! Yes... import gear SUCKED in those days. But if you had an LP, Strat, Ibanez or Charvel/Jackson... running into a Marshall of some sort. You had THAT sound and you worked on your chops to say everything that you needed/wanted to say.
Anyways... I don't wanna rain on the boutique parade, but I wanted to say that if you get a decent set of tools, then your chops and experience are EVERYTHING and I wouldn't get too wrapped-up in chasing gear at this point. If I could go back almost 30 years and force myself to just stick with some good Marshalls (which will ALWAYS be the sound I hear in my head) and not get stuck on the merry-go-round of gear over the past three decades I'd have wasted a LOT less time and money than I have.
So there you have it... from this "old geezer (45)"... just find a few tools that speak to you and play your ass off. Doesn't matter whose logo is on the front of it.
I only traded-off the DSL because I'd been in full acoustic mode over the past year. But I'm back in rock mode again and right now my simple, single-channel Marshall JCM800 2203X has me more inspired than I've felt in years. It has THAT sound. But guess what? That DSL50 on the green channel in crunch mode with the deep switch on had THAT sound as well. It was a GREAT amp and I remember thinking at the time that if it was good enough for the likes of Gary Moore and Iron Maiden, it was good enough for me.
I'm beyond tired of chasing tone with boutique gear. Like some others here, I grew-up, learned to play, and started gigging in the 80s. And before the whole rack craze had us all chasing blinged-out racks with blinky lights in the late 80s and early 90s... it was just a guitar, a TS9, and maybe another pedal or two into a Marshall. And it was AWESOME! Yes... import gear SUCKED in those days. But if you had an LP, Strat, Ibanez or Charvel/Jackson... running into a Marshall of some sort. You had THAT sound and you worked on your chops to say everything that you needed/wanted to say.
Anyways... I don't wanna rain on the boutique parade, but I wanted to say that if you get a decent set of tools, then your chops and experience are EVERYTHING and I wouldn't get too wrapped-up in chasing gear at this point. If I could go back almost 30 years and force myself to just stick with some good Marshalls (which will ALWAYS be the sound I hear in my head) and not get stuck on the merry-go-round of gear over the past three decades I'd have wasted a LOT less time and money than I have.
So there you have it... from this "old geezer (45)"... just find a few tools that speak to you and play your ass off. Doesn't matter whose logo is on the front of it.
rlord1974
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^ he's talking out his ass.
J/K He's actually wise beyond his 45 years.
J/K
He's actually wise beyond his 45 years.
Red_Label
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rlord1974":1h07x93n said:^ he's talking out his ass.
J/K
I've talked out of my ass for MOST of my 45 years. It's just been the last couple that my hard head has really started to learn some wisdom.