Kemper floor model

[ClintN667]

Kemper is releasing the Kemper Stage this week if you are in to that sort of thing. Supposed to be taking orders 7-24-19

 

[thiswaythatway]

They're all in a frenzy on TGP.

 

[japetus]

I would just feel so weird putting that much money on the floor, in any situation other than a home recording setup (or if I were playing in a club/venue with no heathens). I have had so much beer and god knows what else spilled on my pedals over the years. Maybe I am just paranoid.

 

[ClintN667]

I had a Kemper for about 6 months. If I had it to do over I would have just bought one or two nice amps and a couple effects. I couldnt jive with the Kemper

 

[PBGas]

I’m not as much a fan of the Kemper stuff but it is always nice to see another option out there. Looks like they have setup a great unit with this one!

Hope they come out with an official editor soon as well.

Man I would have loved all of this stuff back in the 80s!

 

[Monkey Man]

Awesome-looking board, I reckon.

Really looks the biz.

 

[ghosty999]

Something about stomping on lots of money bothers me, I'd rather have a rack hiding away + a MIDI pedal I don't care about that I can stamp on all day long

 

[Monkey Man]

Same here man.

More than happy with my KPA rack.

 

[sleewell2]

Screen is too small but I bet it sounds great.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

 

[Bob Savage]

I’d stomp all over that thing.

 

[Monkey Man]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

Many have expressed this sentiment through the years, mate. Here're some of the "problems" 'though:

The cost of production would be the same whether you:
1) House 1000 or 25 Profiles. At 3 kilobytes per Rig, think about it.
2) Allow Profiling or not. It's built into the OS and employs existing send-and-return I/O.
3) Restrict the number of simultaneous FX or not. The Profile component of Rigs still requires the grunt of the chosen CPU, and the code's "tied" to it.

 

[JimAnsell]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

Many have expressed this sentiment through the years, mate. Here're some of the "problems" 'though:

The cost of production would be the same whether you:
1) House 1000 or 25 Profiles. At 3 kilobytes per Rig, think about it.
2) Allow Profiling or not. It's built into the OS and employs existing send-and-return I/O.
3) Restrict the number of simultaneous FX or not. The Profile component of Rigs still requires the grunt of the chosen CPU, and the code's "tied" to it.

So do what everyone else does. downgrade all the existing parts, thinner metal casing, have it assembled in some god forsaken part of the world where labor is 7 cents a day

 

[Monkey Man]

Seriously, the code is tied to the specific model of CPU. Kemper bought up a shedload of the chips some years ago 'cause production is due to cease sometime in the next year or two IIRC.

IOW, it can't skimp on the CPU.

It could have cheated a bit with the LCD, but AFAICT it's actually pretty-fancy as well 'cause the company wanted to ensure folks could use and see it properly during outdoor gigs in the sun.

The only places I can think of OTTOMH might be to use shittier-quality foot switches (not a good idea), crappy A/D and D/A (they'd never hear the end of it if they did), lower-spec'd LED's and so on. IOW, they'd end up paying the price in the long run for such decisions.

So in the end it looks like your ideas to use a thinner metal casing and have it assembled in "some god forsaken part of the world where labor is 7 cents a day" might've been the only way to go.

 

[PBGas]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

You think their prices are coming down? I do agree with you on a stripped down unit that would cost less.

I can only relate to what I paid up here in Canada when the KPA first came out some 7 years ago as I recall. I got one of the first ones up here. I paid $1500 Can. That was an outstanding price for the unit. A couple of years later, it crawled up to 1800 and then to 1950 and then now it sits at 2375 for the unpowered head. This is going to cost about $2200 up here I believe. The rack and remote up here is $3000.

 

[napalmdeath]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

This. I'd be down for something with select high-grade high gains, a couple cleans, and bare bones effects. My problem is, I'd spend more time tweaking than playing.

In addition, $1500+ for modelers is just ridiculous, IMO.

 

[skullfxr]

Cool, but irreverent to me.

I agree that that is too much money to have on the floor. For safety sake I would rather have a rack and midi controller and pay more--cheap insurance IMO.

Also the other side of market is calling me Suhr RLIR and just some pedals with a good pedal switcher.

Once I get my current board on my clean rig where I want it, I am going to build a loop switcher for my specific needs for that. And all I need is three loops. $30 in parts and am hour with a soldering iron. NBD.

Sorry to get off topic, but the price is too steep for me to be interested. Then in two years a new one will come out and it will be obsolete (over exaggerating), and won't be worth anything. The value of my pedals won't tank. IMO, YMMV, ETC, /rant.

 

[peterc52]

Usually a pedal board are worth much more.

I’m happy with my rack + remote and aren’t changing because it’s handy with my band. We both use Kemper for live/rehearsal. Kemper are great. But use tube amps at home.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

You think their prices are coming down? I do agree with you on a stripped down unit that would cost less.

I can only relate to what I paid up here in Canada when the KPA first came out some 7 years ago as I recall. I got one of the first ones up here. I paid $1500 Can. That was an outstanding price for the unit. A couple of years later, it crawled up to 1800 and then to 1950 and then now it sits at 2375 for the unpowered head. This is going to cost about $2200 up here I believe. The rack and remote up here is $3000.

That's exactly why, for us canadians it is murder on the pocket book with the exchange rate right now. 1500$ can is a crazy deal... I would consider that.

 

[Kapo_Polenton]

The one good thing is that it looks like the price of their technology is slowly coming down. The day they get into the 899$ range, their product sales will take off! Maybe a unit that only houses 25 profiles and is a little more stripped down. That's all most of us want anyway modelling wise.

Many have expressed this sentiment through the years, mate. Here're some of the "problems" 'though:

The cost of production would be the same whether you:
1) House 1000 or 25 Profiles. At 3 kilobytes per Rig, think about it.
2) Allow Profiling or not. It's built into the OS and employs existing send-and-return I/O.
3) Restrict the number of simultaneous FX or not. The Profile component of Rigs still requires the grunt of the chosen CPU, and the code's "tied" to it.

I was unaware... that said, some of the little guys are bridging the gap. Maybe not as good for the time being but you can't tell me someone won't find a way to jam chinese components into an affordable stripped down unit. I think KEMPER will have no choice but to adapt and go to a stripped version within the next few years.