Kids like tthis give me hope

[degenaro]

Bro, I dont wanna bust your bubble an be a tool an point out the obvious about myself, but chops over context IS the FKN BACKBONE around here!! How many other of us, (not you, Ed, you play,) if better equipped for music or life, wouldnt have those missing elements covered an have an album/tour out??!?? your talking to, me, for example, who ARE one of those 'almosts'.... This is NOT a site chock FULL of Pros, Ed.... got a site full of guys who for various reasons may play like all get out but may be missing some elements, many of them the feel we were talking about, cause often the athletics is easier than the feel...
How bout the group who have No real training and no ear? they still contribute here. What do you want to do with them??!?? am I stepping into s#it here??!??

I get what you're saying, however this so isn't about who coulda been a contender, you don't need to be a player to appreciate something. Or in my case not appreciate it. All I'm trying to say...it's fine and good that Kage finds hope in kids digging 70s and 80s stuff. For me hope comes in the form of kids like Royser just doing scary stuff that isn't the typical thing.

Oh, no doubt! but I wonder how many of them live up to a pedigree like that and actually dont crash an burn by adulthood and TAKE It someplace? I'm sure theres no pie chart on it yet, (or is there?) but theres ALWAYS been that immediate Burst that kids are capable of, that freaky talent that allows them the ability to hit it at a young age. I wondered to myself as a kid that I had fast hands and could sing pretty well but some guys just 'looked' and sounded like their hands 'belonged' on a guitar a while before I started to 'get it'. Some folks Never get it. We all develop differntly, but my hopes hang with someone willilng to do the research at a young age and look behind them and pull from as many sources as they can Right away as opposte to 'shooting stars'...

If we're looking at it this way isn't here a crucial step missing when we have guys do 70s and 80s stuff? What I mean...
I started screeching on cello, and then a coupe of Beatles tune on acoustic, never got into it until I got a crap les Paul copy and then I just wanted to rock the shit. Took me years before I even owned an acoustic, and it wasn't pretty. When i look at the progression of most guitarists that are Rock guys usually the thing that should start everything...like the ability to play a tune all the way through by yourself comes last. Lon after the young, dumb, full of cum excitement of getting to alternate pick root running lines a Paul Gilbert speed.

Go sit down with an acoustic and burn up and down the board and then hand it to a dude that knows 4 chords and can sing a bit...who gets pussy? Jus' sayin'

 

[Gainzilla]

How so? Important formative stuff for what? Take a look how other instruments that are squarely rooted in those genres get taught. Take a look how South American kids get spoon fed rhythmic stuff...
I have no issue with you digging it, but by the same token you should be okay with me having a difference of opinion.

I dont think that I have to give a dissertation on the obvious merits and impact of rock in general do I? As for other instruments within the genre, the same thing can be said. I dont see the relevance of what or how South American kids are taught has to do with my point or yours for that matter. Music is universal and subjective but you cant overlook the contrtribution and staying power of rock and what it did for music in general in its seminal stages.

I dont believe that I said anything that indicated that I had a problem with your difference of opinion. I was only explaining my position and initially, I was only showing something that gave me hope. I wasnt speaking for you

 

[degenaro]

How so? Important formative stuff for what? Take a look how other instruments that are squarely rooted in those genres get taught. Take a look how South American kids get spoon fed rhythmic stuff...
I have no issue with you digging it, but by the same token you should be okay with me having a difference of opinion.

I dont think that I have to give a dissertation on the obvious merits and impact of rock in general do I? As for other instruments within the genre, the same thing can be said. I dont see the relevance of what or how South American kids are taught has to do with my point or yours for that matter. Music is universal and subjective but you cant overlook the contrtribution and staying power of rock and what it did for music in general in its seminal stages.

I dont believe that I said anything that indicated that I had a problem with your difference of opinion. I was only explaining my position and initially, I was only showing something that gave me hope. I wasnt speaking for you

No you don't have to, unless you wanna discuss it. Which for me is the core issue.
Because of popular music guitar is essentially an easy instrument to learn, but once you wanna go past that it requires jus as much work as everything else. And that is where other cultures one up us because the rudimentary stuff isn't skipped. It's getting way OT here, but if I had a do over button...growing up some where and being weaned on Clave rhythms over growing up in the land of oom-pah woulda done wonders for pocket I'm guessing. But that just applies to me..to each their own.

 

[70strathead]

"I'm trying to get more into other things, where reality is nothing but each individual's way of thinking." - Jimi Hendrix

 

[Gainiac]

Bro, I dont wanna bust your bubble an be a tool an point out the obvious about myself, but chops over context IS the FKN BACKBONE around here!! How many other of us, (not you, Ed, you play,) if better equipped for music or life, wouldnt have those missing elements covered an have an album/tour out??!?? your talking to, me, for example, who ARE one of those 'almosts'.... This is NOT a site chock FULL of Pros, Ed.... got a site full of guys who for various reasons may play like all get out but may be missing some elements, many of them the feel we were talking about, cause often the athletics is easier than the feel...
How bout the group who have No real training and no ear? they still contribute here. What do you want to do with them??!?? am I stepping into s#it here??!??

I get what you're saying, however this so isn't about who coulda been a contender, you don't need to be a player to appreciate something. Or in my case not appreciate it. All I'm trying to say...it's fine and good that Kage finds hope in kids digging 70s and 80s stuff. For me hope comes in the form of kids like Royser just doing scary stuff that isn't the typical thing.

Oh, no doubt! but I wonder how many of them live up to a pedigree like that and actually dont crash an burn by adulthood and TAKE It someplace? I'm sure theres no pie chart on it yet, (or is there?) but theres ALWAYS been that immediate Burst that kids are capable of, that freaky talent that allows them the ability to hit it at a young age. I wondered to myself as a kid that I had fast hands and could sing pretty well but some guys just 'looked' and sounded like their hands 'belonged' on a guitar a while before I started to 'get it'. Some folks Never get it. We all develop differntly, but my hopes hang with someone willilng to do the research at a young age and look behind them and pull from as many sources as they can Right away as opposte to 'shooting stars'...

If we're looking at it this way isn't here a crucial step missing when we have guys do 70s and 80s stuff? What I mean...
I started screeching on cello, and then a coupe of Beatles tune on acoustic, never got into it until I got a crap les Paul copy and then I just wanted to rock the shit. Took me years before I even owned an acoustic, and it wasn't pretty. When i look at the progression of most guitarists that are Rock guys usually the thing that should start everything...like the ability to play a tune all the way through by yourself comes last. Lon after the young, dumb, full of cum excitement of getting to alternate pick root running lines a Paul Gilbert speed.

Go sit down with an acoustic and burn up and down the board and then hand it to a dude that knows 4 chords and can sing a bit...who gets pussy? Jus' sayin'

Waitaminnt..... U telling me you validate the singer/songwriter over the guy who plays instrumentals and blows long fast lines with Gilbert speed??!??? You getting Bored, Ed??!???

 

[degenaro]

Bro, I dont wanna bust your bubble an be a tool an point out the obvious about myself, but chops over context IS the FKN BACKBONE around here!! How many other of us, (not you, Ed, you play,) if better equipped for music or life, wouldnt have those missing elements covered an have an album/tour out??!?? your talking to, me, for example, who ARE one of those 'almosts'.... This is NOT a site chock FULL of Pros, Ed.... got a site full of guys who for various reasons may play like all get out but may be missing some elements, many of them the feel we were talking about, cause often the athletics is easier than the feel...
How bout the group who have No real training and no ear? they still contribute here. What do you want to do with them??!?? am I stepping into s#it here??!??

I get what you're saying, however this so isn't about who coulda been a contender, you don't need to be a player to appreciate something. Or in my case not appreciate it. All I'm trying to say...it's fine and good that Kage finds hope in kids digging 70s and 80s stuff. For me hope comes in the form of kids like Royser just doing scary stuff that isn't the typical thing.

Oh, no doubt! but I wonder how many of them live up to a pedigree like that and actually dont crash an burn by adulthood and TAKE It someplace? I'm sure theres no pie chart on it yet, (or is there?) but theres ALWAYS been that immediate Burst that kids are capable of, that freaky talent that allows them the ability to hit it at a young age. I wondered to myself as a kid that I had fast hands and could sing pretty well but some guys just 'looked' and sounded like their hands 'belonged' on a guitar a while before I started to 'get it'. Some folks Never get it. We all develop differntly, but my hopes hang with someone willilng to do the research at a young age and look behind them and pull from as many sources as they can Right away as opposte to 'shooting stars'...

If we're looking at it this way isn't here a crucial step missing when we have guys do 70s and 80s stuff? What I mean...
I started screeching on cello, and then a coupe of Beatles tune on acoustic, never got into it until I got a crap les Paul copy and then I just wanted to rock the shit. Took me years before I even owned an acoustic, and it wasn't pretty. When i look at the progression of most guitarists that are Rock guys usually the thing that should start everything...like the ability to play a tune all the way through by yourself comes last. Lon after the young, dumb, full of cum excitement of getting to alternate pick root running lines a Paul Gilbert speed.

Go sit down with an acoustic and burn up and down the board and then hand it to a dude that knows 4 chords and can sing a bit...who gets pussy? Jus' sayin'

Waitaminnt..... U telling me you validate the singer/songwriter over the guy who plays instrumentals and blows long fast lines with Gilbert speed??!??? You getting Bored, Ed??!???

When there is pussy...hell yeah!

 

[Gainiac]

Bro, I dont wanna bust your bubble an be a tool an point out the obvious about myself, but chops over context IS the FKN BACKBONE around here!! How many other of us, (not you, Ed, you play,) if better equipped for music or life, wouldnt have those missing elements covered an have an album/tour out??!?? your talking to, me, for example, who ARE one of those 'almosts'.... This is NOT a site chock FULL of Pros, Ed.... got a site full of guys who for various reasons may play like all get out but may be missing some elements, many of them the feel we were talking about, cause often the athletics is easier than the feel...
How bout the group who have No real training and no ear? they still contribute here. What do you want to do with them??!?? am I stepping into s#it here??!??

I get what you're saying, however this so isn't about who coulda been a contender, you don't need to be a player to appreciate something. Or in my case not appreciate it. All I'm trying to say...it's fine and good that Kage finds hope in kids digging 70s and 80s stuff. For me hope comes in the form of kids like Royser just doing scary stuff that isn't the typical thing.

Oh, no doubt! but I wonder how many of them live up to a pedigree like that and actually dont crash an burn by adulthood and TAKE It someplace? I'm sure theres no pie chart on it yet, (or is there?) but theres ALWAYS been that immediate Burst that kids are capable of, that freaky talent that allows them the ability to hit it at a young age. I wondered to myself as a kid that I had fast hands and could sing pretty well but some guys just 'looked' and sounded like their hands 'belonged' on a guitar a while before I started to 'get it'. Some folks Never get it. We all develop differntly, but my hopes hang with someone willilng to do the research at a young age and look behind them and pull from as many sources as they can Right away as opposte to 'shooting stars'...

If we're looking at it this way isn't here a crucial step missing when we have guys do 70s and 80s stuff? What I mean...
I started screeching on cello, and then a coupe of Beatles tune on acoustic, never got into it until I got a crap les Paul copy and then I just wanted to rock the shit. Took me years before I even owned an acoustic, and it wasn't pretty. When i look at the progression of most guitarists that are Rock guys usually the thing that should start everything...like the ability to play a tune all the way through by yourself comes last. Lon after the young, dumb, full of cum excitement of getting to alternate pick root running lines a Paul Gilbert speed.

Go sit down with an acoustic and burn up and down the board and then hand it to a dude that knows 4 chords and can sing a bit...who gets pussy? Jus' sayin'

Waitaminnt..... U telling me you validate the singer/songwriter over the guy who plays instrumentals and blows long fast lines with Gilbert speed??!??? You getting Bored, Ed??!???

When there is pussy...hell yeah!