
Shask
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Holy-diver":epx45uzw said:get a used PRS core model, it will be 10000x better instrument than a kieselShask":epx45uzw said:rbasaria":epx45uzw said:crankyrayhanky":epx45uzw said:That's ridiculous. There was another guy NinjaRaf who had a Kiesel last year that looked like a similar bridge and similar issue. I think you were on the right track with a neck shim and/or taller hipshot. This could have & should have been fixed and pretty easy if you are a guitar tech.
I ordered a Multiscale with a different bridge and it came out super nice....but I'm seeing too many stories that look like this issue is not unique.
If you see your guitar on the in stock inventory page update this thread, lol! I want to see more of it.
Oh Hai!!
I ordered a couple of Kiesels in 2015. SCB6 and DC600. Both pretty similar overall in terms of what I wanted aesthetically, and man did they come out incredible in that sense. But they were both plagued with basically unfixable problems.
Problem 1...both guitars had similar issues to yours with the bridge, but not as extreme. The heights on yours are just insane. Mine were really high, and didn't really have room for adjustment, but I don't remember them being quite that high (though, we are talking a year or so ago when my DC600 went away).
Problem 2...I wanted to replace the pickups in my DC600 with some Dimarzio Dominions. Get the bridge installed perfectly fine. Go to install the neck, and I am adjusting pickup height, and I feel a pinch on my leg...flip the guitar over...screws went through the fucking body. Pull them out...turns out, they use different length of screw for the neck and bridge pickup mounting. The neck pup screws are about .25" longer than the bridge. Why. The. Fuck. Would you do this. Who the fuck thinks to check SCREW LENGTH OF MOUNTING SCREWS when changing pickups. There are many reason these things are fucking standardized. This, for some reason, pissed me off more than anything else because...it just doesn't make any fucking sense.
Problem 3...and really the biggest problem...both guitars sounded very lifeless and dead. I also have an LTD MH400 and an LTD H400. These 2 guitars were $350 each. Both combined cost half of what one of my Kiesels cost. Both LTDs play and sound a million times better than either of my Kiesels. This, to me, is just fucking stupid.
In any case...I ended up trading my SCB6 for my Gibson Gothic V, and I traded my DC600 to a friend locally for an AR15 300 blackout pistol build lol.
The screw thing really sealed the deal for me and no more Kiesel. Sorry, but its just fucking stupid and makes no sense. Your guitar bodies are flat, and there is no neck angle on neck throughs...which means there is literally no reason to have different length screws. When I talked to them...they denied that they used different length screws and then blamed me lol. I sent them a picture of the 2 screws next to each other, and they didn't respond to it. Then they offered to fix it if I paid shipping to and from. This guitar was less than a month old at that point. So sorry that you guys are too retarded to use same length screws, I am not dealing with this crap.
Kiesel has a lot of potential. A semi-custom shop that lets you spec out nearly every fucking detail of your guitar is SUCH a great idea. But their execution needs a lot of work. Customer service needs a lot of work. And apparently, logic, too haha.
I still have your old SCB6! I actually love it!
The saddles do have some angle to them, but not near as drastic as this thread. The SCB6 has standard fret-wire. I have noticed that it seems like Hipshot+Jumbo frets seem to be the biggest culprit for this problem to be majorly dramatic.
I did change the pickups to Duncan Black Winters. I researched a long time, and eventually used completely different screws based on your issues. I agree that what they used was just stupid. I think it is stupid overall that they use threaded inserts for the back cover, but not the pickups. Even my MIK Schecter has threaded inserts for pickups.
It is still not huge, chunky, and resonant like a Les Paul, but the Duncans helped a lot. I love it for tight technical playing like Death-Symbolic, Lamb of God, etc... I still think the maple neckthrough has a lot to do with the sound.
I still want to order another Kiesel, but definitely worried after so many problems lately. There definitely seems to be many "rules", like no Option 50's, dont do Hipshot+Jumbo frets, no maple neckthrough, etc.... Sadly, there aren't many choices out there for 25" scale, which I am loving. Basically just Kiesel and PRS. I am also considering a PRS SE Custom 24.
Looking at the PRS SE Custom 24 also. I prefer the flat top / bevel to carved tops like the US PRSs, and I want a Floyd model. The Floyd US model is like $4k+, which is ridiculous. I dont want to feel bad if I sand the neck.
